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Congress votes to increase minimum wage

House, Senate pass $2.10 increase as part of Iraq spending bill

WASHINGTON - America’s lowest-paid workers won a $2.10 raise Thursday, with Congress approving the first increase in the federal minimum wage in almost a decade.
President Bush was expected to sign the bill quickly, and workers who now make $5.15 an hour will see their paychecks go up by 70 cents per hour before the end of the summer. Another 70 cents will be added next year, and by summer 2009, all minimum-wage jobs will pay no less than $7.25 an hour.
For years, the idea of increasing the minimum wage has been stalled by partisan bickering between Republicans and Democrats.

Wrapped into Iraq funding bill
That almost became the fate of this year’s proposal. Democratic leaders attached the provision to the $120 billion Iraq war spending bill, which was vetoed by the GOP-controlled White House on May 1 because Democrats insisted on a pullout date for American troops.
But with the House passing a rewritten bill 280-142 and the Senate 80-14, the end is likely near for the longest stretch without the federal pay floor rising since the minimum wage was established in 1938.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., called the increase one of “the proudest achievements of this new Congress.”
“We’ve overcome many obstacles — and faced every procedural trick in the book — to get this minimum-wage increase across the finish line,” Kennedy said. “Democrats stood together, and stood firm, to say that no one who works hard for a living should have to live in poverty.”
White House criticizes size of offsets
Bush announced earlier this year that he supported an increase in the minimum wage.
“We pushed for and very much prefer that it be paired with appropriate offsets for small businesses who would be disproportionately impacted by the minimum-wage increase,” White House spokesman Tony Fratto said. “Unfortunately, the offsets in this bill don’t accomplish that.”
This would be the first change since the minimum wage went from $4.75 to $5.15 on Sept. 1, 1997, under former President Clinton and a Republican-controlled Congress.
The liberal-leaning Economic Policy Institute, a research group in Washington, estimates that 5.6 million workers — or 4 percent of the work force — earn less than $7.25.
“This is a great day for America’s middle class,” said Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee. “America’s workers have been waiting for a raise for a long time.”

15 months of groceries
Currently, a person working 40 hours per week at the current minimum wage of $5.15 makes about $10,700 a year. An increase to $7.25 would boost that to just over $15,000 a year.
The full increase, according to Miller, is enough to pay for 15 months of groceries for a family of three.
More than two dozen states and the District of Columbia already have minimum wages higher than the federal level. Minimum wage workers are typically young, single and female and are often black or Hispanic.
Raising the minimum wage was a key part of Democrats’ midterm election platform. To help make it palatable for Republicans, they added $4.84 billion in tax relief for small businesses to help them hire new workers and offset any cost associated with an increase in the minimum wage.
Critics say move will cost jobs
Republicans had complained earlier that the tax cuts in the House and Senate bills that led up to the final agreement were insufficient, but the inclusion of the provisions in the Iraq war spending bill made it difficult for them to stop them.
“From a small-business standpoint, the House bill was a peanut shell, the Senate bill was peanuts, and the conference agreement is a single shriveled peanut. It is a missed opportunity,” said Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa.
According to the National Restaurant Association, the last minimum wage increase cost the restaurant industry more than 146,000 jobs and restaurant owners put off plans to hire an additional 106,000 employees.
“A minimum-wage increase will cost our industry jobs, and the vital discussion of how to minimize this job loss is getting lost in the debate,” said Peter Kilgore, the group’s acting interim president and chief executive officer.

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I support the increase in the minimum wage, but Miller is talking out of his ass when he says this is a victory for the middle class. People who are middle class tend to work ABOVE the minimum wage. An increase in the minimum wage really shouldn't affect a person in the middle class.
 
:huh: where I worked at...minimum wage went up to 6.15. Is it really 5.15 still? Because where I live it's 5.15, but the place I worked at said it went up to 6.15.
 
Bush wants another 100 billion for Iraq for the next 5 months. How much of that money could be used to subsidize small businesses who are going to struggle due to the minumum wage increase?

any estimates?
 
I support the increase in the minimum wage, but Miller is talking out of his ass when he says this is a victory for the middle class. People who are middle class tend to work ABOVE the minimum wage. An increase in the minimum wage really shouldn't affect a person in the middle class.


say you got the husband earning 3000 a month, and his wife works at the local gas station for a little extra money. It will effect them.

Imagine if their teenage daughter gets a job. It will help.

Although it is mainly going to benefit the lower class.
 
Wish they'd do that to minimumn wage here. When I was working last, we were always short on everything.
 
Minimum Wage is $7.50 a hour here in Rhode Island so it doesn't really matter I guess for me :(
 
:huh: where I worked at...minimum wage went up to 6.15. Is it really 5.15 still? Because where I live it's 5.15, but the place I worked at said it went up to 6.15.

^^so would the 6.15 increse to 8.25?

The federal minimun wage is $5.15. States have the right to set their own minimun wages, but they cannot be below the federal.
 
I wonder how many states still use the federal minimum wage standard anymore. If there is a number of them still, then I see it as a good thing, but if there really aren't many going by federal standards then it does seem kinda pointless.
 
I wonder how many states still use the federal minimum wage standard anymore. If there is a number of them still, then I see it as a good thing, but if there really aren't many going by federal standards then it does seem kinda pointless.

Up until six months ago, Ohio was still going by the federal.
 
say you got the husband earning 3000 a month, and his wife works at the local gas station for a little extra money. It will effect them.

Imagine if their teenage daughter gets a job. It will help.

Although it is mainly going to benefit the lower class.

This is going to mostly benefit the people who need it and teenagers. I said that most middle class people aren't going to be affected by this. Of course there are going to be some like the senario you mentioned. But mostly, Miller is talking out of his ass. It's a victory for those who need it, not the middle class.
 
This is going to mostly benefit the people who need it and teenagers. I said that most middle class people aren't going to be affected by this. Of course there are going to be some like the senario you mentioned. But mostly, Miller is talking out of his ass. It's a victory for those who need it, not the middle class.

You're absolutely correct. It shouldn't be downplayed that this is a victory, though. I voted for the State to raise it's minimum wage, even though it didn't affect me.

Miller's playing the politician game. By saying it's a win for the middle class, he's just trying to get support from the middle class, who are obviously the largest class in the U.S.
 
:huh: where I worked at...minimum wage went up to 6.15. Is it really 5.15 still? Because where I live it's 5.15, but the place I worked at said it went up to 6.15.
There are plenty of States with minimum wage rates higher than the Federal's. Congress votes are for an increase in Federal minimum wage but each state can raise their minimum wage according to the state wage laws. In my State, minimum wage is at $7.25/hour.
 
You're absolutely correct. It shouldn't be downplayed that this is a victory, though. I voted for the State to raise it's minimum wage, even though it didn't affect me.

Miller's playing the politician game. By saying it's a win for the middle class, he's just trying to get support from the middle class, who are obviously the largest class in the U.S.

Bingo! And this increase is long overdue. And that is coming from someone it doesn't really affect, salary-wise.

jag
 
Bingo! And this increase is long overdue. And that is coming from someone it doesn't really affect, salary-wise.

jag
The only group of people that will be affected are the working class. But from what I've observed, as soon as mimimum wage increase, so will consumer price and before long it'll be back to square one. Mimimum wage needs to keep up with cost of living and should be increased whenever cost of living increases.
 
Originally Posted by kytrigger
I wonder how many states still use the federal minimum wage standard anymore. If there is a number of them still, then I see it as a good thing, but if there really aren't many going by federal standards then it does seem kinda pointless.
Up until six months ago, Ohio was still going by the federal.

And Wisconsin. But hey states can always choose to lower their minimum wage after they have gone above the federal minimum wage, like Bush did for Texas.

So a federal standard is hardly pointless.
 
This is going to mostly benefit the people who need it and teenagers. I said that most middle class people aren't going to be affected by this. Of course there are going to be some like the senario you mentioned. But mostly, Miller is talking out of his ass. It's a victory for those who need it, not the middle class.


Actually now that I think about it, every single middle class family I know will benefit from this. I got like six right off the top of my head, and I can't think of even one who wont.

think about it once. I bet you every single middle class family you can think of has at least one member working for minimum wage, or a kid in college scrapping by, who depends on his parents.
 
The only group of people that will be affected are the working class. But from what I've observed, as soon as mimimum wage increase, so will consumer price and before long it'll be back to square one. Mimimum wage needs to keep up with cost of living and should be increased whenever cost of living increases.

Hardly anything keeps up with the COLA increases anymore. I work a corporate job and they've been dealing out 2-3% raises for the last several years when the COLA increase is usually well over 5% per year. I don't know how much consumer prices will raise, though. Perhaps more in certain areas than others. But people are used to paying a certain price for things that aren't necessities and seeing the price jacked up will probably only curb consumption on those kinds of items more so than it will spur folks to just pay the higher price. Particularly with most companies and corporations reporting record profits every quarter. It makes it difficult to feel sorry for them or justify paying that much more to supplement their profits in the face of having to pay their employees a little bit more. If anything, maybe it will force some of these companies to run their businesses a little more efficiently to reduce operating costs. Probably not, but a boy can dream.

jag
 
I support the increase in the minimum wage, but Miller is talking out of his ass when he says this is a victory for the middle class. People who are middle class tend to work ABOVE the minimum wage. An increase in the minimum wage really shouldn't affect a person in the middle class.

The idea of the middle class is so vague that it really becomes a useless term. Saying that you're middle class puts you somewhere in a pretty wide spectrum of income and social statuses.
 
Bush wants another 100 billion for Iraq for the next 5 months. How much of that money could be used to subsidize small businesses who are going to struggle due to the minumum wage increase?

any estimates?


From what I read on the matter, the Senate wouldn't pass any legislature, without tax cuts to small business owners, to compensate. I don't know how far they took that though.
 
Now that I think about it. it was pretty smart of the Democrats to put this in the Iraq spending bill. Now Bush can't veto it (or else he loses the chance of basically getting free money for Iraq) and the House Democrats didn't have to put in the tax cuts.
 
I actually would have preferred the tax cuts be in there.
 
So would I but hey, I said they played it smart, not sensible :p
 
You better be careful hippie. This is two big government socialist bills passed in one week that you support.

And you probably support the funding for embyonic stem cell research bill passed a month ago, even though Bush vetoed it. That's also socialist.

Anyways though it should have had the tax cuts. That's how Howard Dean did it in Vermont, and they had no bad side effects at all.
 

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