JewishHobbit said:
Thunderbird (Exiles) Vs Frankie Raye
At first I thougth I was surely going to lose this match. I mean, she's a herald of Galactus, and that means TOUGH! However, the more I looked into her the more I think Thunderbird has a great chance of winning this. She's tough, and the location gives her the advantage, but all it would take is one blow.
I'm not going to dispute this, he really only needs to get her in one blow. There are only two problems with this. He needs to catch her (and she is faster than him as well) and he's going to have be able to withstand a full on Power Cosmic assault, and there's not many he are capable of doing that.
Thunderbird wouldn't do that well in his normal form, but as he starts to morph into his death (or is it war) mode, he'd become formidable enough. Now Asteroid M is an environment that can contain life, so not too much problem there. He is tough and though she has the advantage of flight, he can leap very well. Think about the Hulk, does facing flying people stop the Hulk? Nope, and it wouldn't stop T-Bird either. All it would take is one leap to catch her to bring her down, then the match is his.
Asteroid M is a very large place in itself, but not every room and every corridor is going to be that way as well. If T-Bird starts leaping around Hulk style, he's going to crash through the roof in no-time and find himself in space. It's not Asteroid M that is the problem, it's what is outside it... space.
Frankie simply has a lot more chances to lay it on T-Bird. She's got speed, and by making use of the smaller spaces, she can really lay it on him. All that she needs to be close to is an exit. Especially in his war mode, he's going to be huge, and moving through Asteroid M isn't going to be that easy, as some rooms will be really cramped, and voila, out of an air-duct, full on Power Cosmic barrage. Frankie flies away, storing up some more power and rinse and repeat.
Why is it his? Because I just learned that Frankie died by very conventional physical means. She was simply stabbed through the back. In his War mode, Thunderbird is very brutal and will due what's necessary to win. He kinda goes Savage Hulk. He's not stupid, just savage. It'd be tough, but once he manages to get his hands on her, whether it be through leaping and catching, hitting her with debrie, etc. all he'd have to do is whale on her and she'll go down, simple as that. As Harlekin said, this man went down only because he fought Galactus, and he technically won that match even,... so yeah, he can win this.
He can win it, but probality favors Frankie in this match. It'll be much easier for her to evade him than vice versa. While T-Bird is a very physical fighter, she can lay on the hurt from a distance, and it'll be hard to close that gap between them with
a) the Power Cosmic blasting at him
b) making sure not to jump through the roof
Choice b is going to be increasingly more difficult for T-Bird the more he devolves into his war mode, and although he doesn't become stupid, he does become very savage, and will be out of control.
To sum it up: Frankie has the speed, the flight control and the power to take him down, especially if the two end up space, since she can actually breathe there.
Winner=Frankie Raye
and won)
