Contest Of Marvels (Thread 1)

[Sparta*]

Thanos
Black Bolt

 

[Da Docta]

Thanos
Blackbolt

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Thanos
High Evolutionary

 

[Scott Free]

Thanos
Blackbolt

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting Is Over!

Final Results:

Thanos 13-1 over Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary 10-4 over Black Bolt

 

[Phaedrus45]

FINAL THREAD 1 MATCH-UP:

BRACKET 1 WINNER: Thanos(BLAZE) bio



vs.

BRACKET 2 WINNER: High Evolutionary(PHAED) bio

 

[POWdER-man]

LOCATION

This week's matches will be held in the Negative Zone which is a universe parallel to Earth. The two have many similarities, but a few noteworthy differences include: all matter in the Negative Zone is negatively charged; the Negative Zone is entirely filled with a pressurized, breathable atmosphere; and near the center of the Negative Zone is a deadly vortex of unspeakable power. Since the Negative Zone is largely uninhabited, several would-be conquerors have attempted to bridge the gap to Earth and take over it's population.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Should have something up Monday sometime.

 

[Phaedrus45]

High Evolutionary vs. Thanos:

http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/High_Evolutionary

That's my better bio of High Evolutionary. Just some points in the bio:

Known Powers: The High Evolutionary possesses vast psionic power, further augmented by his armor.

• Extrasensory Powers of Clairaudience, Clairvoyance, Cosmic Awareness and a form of Danger Sense;

Works to High Evolutionary's advantage. Thanos wouldn't be able to sneak up on him, and he'd have a sense as to what Thanos is up to.

• Astral Projection; He can survive apart from his physical body for an indefinite period of time.

Maybe the biggest advantage in this match-up, just like Dr. Strange, HE's physical body isn't needed in this match-up.

• Mental Invisibility; the High Evolutionary is normally undectable even by other powerful telepaths

HE would be undetectable to even Thanos, who has vast psionic powers.

• Aside from telepathically communicating with other humans, the High Evolutionary can also telepathically communicate with animals and cybernetic systems

There are various types of creatures throughout the negative zone. HE would be able to telepathically communicate and coerce those creatures in an attempt to attack Thanos and help with distract Thanos from HE's main attack.

• Telekinesis used for levitation, flight, forcefields and blasts

Great for defensive situations.

• He is an expert in linguistics and can even use a form of ventriloquism
• Total Memory

High Evolutionary would know everything about Thanos. He would have a record of all of Thanos' conquests and defeats. He would realize what Thanos' weaknesses are.

• Matter Creation--all types including lifeforms simply by his intense force of will.

Not only can HE manipulate the creatures in the Negative Zone; but, HE is so vastly powerful, he can create lifeforms at will.

• His suit is designed to protect it's wearer at all costs
• His suit can regenerate his body or create a new body for him if needed.

HE's suit is the other advantage in this battle. It will protect him from Thanos' direct attacks, and any damage caused will be quickly regenerated.

Known Abilities: Skilled in science, especially relating to genetics and engineering.

The final advantage to bring up is that HE would have knowledge of Thanos' genetics. With this knowledge, he would have the biggest advantage of knowing Thanos' weakness.

Winner - High Evolutionary

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Thanos(BLAZE)

vs.

High Evolutionary(PHAED)

This is, in my opinion at least, the best match up thus far in this thing. Both characters are master planners and extremely intelligent. Both have an impressive array of powers that are pretty high in strength level (at least most are). The Evolutionary has an impressive piece of armor and psionic powers that would make Xavier jealous. As far as knowledge goes, both opponents should have a good amount of info on each other as both are huge knowledge ****es.

High Evolutionary's cosmic awareness would make it extremely difficult for Thanos to get in any type of sneak attack, but the Titan could still track him down; he's not invisible to technological means of tracking and the Titan has some of the best tech out there. So, that would force a face to face confrontation.

Both are sophisticated beings, but I doubt there'd be much banter between them before they begin to throw down. Probably be a lot of verbal jabbing during the fight though.
The Evolutionary has the ability to rearrange matter at the molecular level, but Thanos has shown to be extremely resilient against reality manipulations, such as in Thanos Quest. The Titan would be able to resist any attempt to change his molecular structure. Thanos has shown to be able to manipulate matter as well, but I don't think it would work on the Evolutionary, himself, either.

The Evolutionary can create life, psionically, and, potentially, create an entire army for Thanos to face. This would more than likely be against the rules though, so I won't go in on this (I was told I could not use any of Kang's servants and it's basically the same deal).

As far as telepathically manipulating the creatures in the N-Zone to attack Thanos, that would work. However, the N-Zone is a colossal place and, personally, I don't think the Evolutionary would be able summon that many creatures in the area before the fight is over. What creatures he does/is able to summon, the Titan would make short work of. Granted, there are, potentially, powerful creatures in the N-Zone that could, conceivably, be in the area for the Evolutionary to summon to his aid. But, Thanos has been shown to take out entire armies single-handedly (Cosmic Powers) and has taken down beings even more physically powerful than himself (such as his Magus clone). Add to the fact Thanos' tech and intelligence compared to that of some N-Zone creature, and the Titan would have little trouble in dispatching the fodder.
The only way this would really be handy for the Evolutionary is if he needed to get Thanos off of him to regroup.

As far as the Evolutionary's armor goes, it's powerful, but hardly indestructible. It is an extremely tough nut to crack, but one with sufficient strength can tear it apart, as the Hulk has shown when he confronted the Evolutionary. Now, Thanos is just as strong as the Hulk (base strength), and is also able to increase his physical powers to higher degrees via cosmic energy manipulation. He would definitely be strong enough to tear the High Evolutionary's armor off of him.
The Evolutionary's suit can also "heal" him and bring him back to his perfect state of human evolution from pretty much any injury, even a single cell. But, this is not instantaneous. Mortal injuries, such as having half of his body vaporized for example, would take some time to regenerate. It would definitely not heal fast enough for him to continue the fight.
Also, something to keep in mind, is that under the armor, the Evolutionary is a human. Albeit the ultimately advanced human, but a human none-the-less. Without his armor he's far less durable than the Titan and would not be able to take, for instance, a blast of cosmic energy from the Titan, full force.

As far as energy blasts go, I've never really seen the Evolutionary use them much. So, I can't rightly say whether they are weaker or stronger than Thanos' cosmic blasts. However, I can say that Thanos is able to increase the potency of his blasts enough to knock Galactus on his ass.

As with the energy blasts, I've not seen enough of the Evolutionary's force fields to rightly comment on their potency. But, I can say that Thanos' are some of the most powerful I've seen in comics. His personal forcefields have even withstood a blast from Omega, a being twice as powerful as Galactus. And he pretty much always has them on him when he's knowingly going into a fight.

As for intelligence, I'd say they're about even scientifically, with the Evolutionary having the edge in genetics and the like. As far as tactical planning and battlefield strategy goes, Thanos has the edge. The Titan also has the experience edge, having been in the game hundreds of years longer than the Evolutionary has.

Thanos also has an impressive array of devices he could use. I've mentioned the stasis gun before, but he could also bring in the power orb which he stole from Tyrant to increase his power levels. He could also create a device to harness the negative energies of the N-Zone to use as a weapon against the Evolutionary, such as creating an explosion of anti-matter.

All in all, this is a very good match up and should be an excellent game of wits as well as a good old fashion brawl. Still, Thanos has battled and outmaneuvered being just as powerful as him, and some more powerful. So, he's no stranger to being in the fight of his life. The Titan also has much more experience in huge fights compared to the Evolutionary. And that experience should help.
As I've said a couple of times now, this will be a damn good fight. But, in the end, the Mad Titan should pull out the victory.

 

[Phaedrus45]

I'm going to ask for a JH ruling on this matter. The difference between the Kang match-up and High Evolutionary's ability to create being to fight Thanos are very different. For Kang, you are bringing in people to assist you in a battle. High Evolutionary's ability is part of his power. Just as Jamie Madrox can make upteen duplicates of himself, High Evolutionary would go into this battle with just him. But, after that, the gloves are off.

Also, High Evolutionary will have complete knowledge of the Negative Zone. He will know where he is and where to go where some beings are to manipulate. He will have this ability for flight with his armor.

I do totally agree this is a great match-up. Very close, and I can see either of us winning this. We could probably go back and forth about who has more power. But, for now, I will wait for a ruling to respond any further.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

I'm going to ask for a JH ruling on this matter. The difference between the Kang match-up and High Evolutionary's ability to create being to fight Thanos are very different. For Kang, you are bringing in people to assist you in a battle. High Evolutionary's ability is part of his power. Just as Jamie Madrox can make upteen duplicates of himself, High Evolutionary would go into this battle with just him. But, after that, the gloves are off.

And Kang created all of his minions as well, except he did it differently than creating them via matter manipulation. I don't think the Evolutionary should be able to create all the minions he wants just because of the way they're brought in when people like Kang and Doom can't do the same thing just because they go about/went about creating their minions differently. As for Madrox, that's pretty much his thing. To take that power away from him is pretty much making him your average Joe, so I can see why he'd be the exception. Just like I can't have Dormammu summon the Mindless Ones or his hordes, I don't think the Evolutionary should be able to create his minions.

But, that's my opinion and it's ultimately up to the furry footed GM of this little shindig.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Voting May Begin!

 

[JewishHobbit]

Hmm, this is a tough call, as I can see both points. But here's the differance between Dormammu and Kang,.. and HE. Dormammu and Kang are bringing already made creatures from outside of the match to attack with. HE is using the location he's in as a resource, and manipulating it. He's taking the creatures already within the N-Zone, mutating them, and sending them for an attack, that has never been spoken against. That's more along the lines of when a telepath takes control of people from his location and attack with them, which has been stated to be allowed. What HE cannot do, which would be the same as what Dormammu and Kang does, is bring in some of the animal men into the battle that he's previously created, that would be against the rules. But if he's just taking control of what's already in the location and using them to his benefit, nothing wrong with that.

So for this, I will say HE is allowed.... just don't go ape crazy and create legions of N-Zone lackeys.

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Thanos

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Hmm, this is a tough call, as I can see both points. But here's the differance between Dormammu and Kang,.. and HE. Dormammu and Kang are bringing already made creatures from outside of the match to attack with. HE is using the location he's in as a resource, and manipulating it. He's taking the creatures already within the N-Zone, mutating them, and sending them for an attack, that has never been spoken against. That's more along the lines of when a telepath takes control of people from his location and attack with them, which has been stated to be allowed. What HE cannot do, which would be the same as what Dormammu and Kang does, is bring in some of the animal men into the battle that he's previously created, that would be against the rules. But if he's just taking control of what's already in the location and using them to his benefit, nothing wrong with that.

So for this, I will say HE is allowed.... just don't go ape crazy and create legions of N-Zone lackeys.

I was talking about the Evolutionary creating minions from scratch, not dominating the local "wildlife" to use as his fodder. I was cool with that. It was the creating minions to use that I was having...misgivings about.

I still don't see how that's different than say Kang bringing in the Timespinner, for example. He created him, just like the Evolutionary would create his minions, except he did his creating at an earlier date and via his scientific know-how instead of manipulating matter. I can see your point with Dormammu on the Mindless Ones, but Kang created damn near all of his minions personally.
To say he couldn't use his created minions and the Evolutionary can simply because of the difference in how/when they were made, in my opinion, reeks of BS.

 

[Trigger]

High Evolutionary

 

[bkhedr]

Thanos

 

[Phaedrus45]

*High Evolutionary

 

[JewishHobbit]

I was talking about the Evolutionary creating minions from scratch, not dominating the local "wildlife" to use as his fodder. I was cool with that. It was the creating minions to use that I was having...misgivings about.

I still don't see how that's different than say Kang bringing in the Timespinner, for example. He created him, just like the Evolutionary would create his minions, except he did his creating at an earlier date and via his scientific know-how instead of manipulating matter. I can see your point with Dormammu on the Mindless Ones, but Kang created damn near all of his minions personally.
To say he couldn't use his created minions and the Evolutionary can simply because of the difference in how/when they were made, in my opinion, reeks of BS.

Can Kang take creatures of the appointed location and create minions from them? Because if he can, I don't think I would have had a problem with that. Now he can't bring anything from any other time or place, just as HE can't. It has nothing to do with how or when, but the fact that it's simply that HE is using the location. He can't bring in any other creature he's ever created, just as Kang can't, but if he can create minions using the location by evolving the wildlife, then that doesn't break any previously stated rules. So that's still allowed.

Now how does he create from scratch? Does he just create things by thinking of it, or is the evolving little things like sharks and sheep to soldiers what you mean? Because evolving what's there is fine, but if he can just whip up a minion out of air, that's a bit of a stretch for me too.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Can Kang take creatures of the appointed location and create minions from them? Because if he can, I don't think I would have had a problem with that. Now he can't bring anything from any other time or place, just as HE can't. It has nothing to do with how or when, but the fact that it's simply that HE is using the location. He can't bring in any other creature he's ever created, just as Kang can't, but if he can create minions using the location by evolving the wildlife, then that doesn't break any previously stated rules. So that's still allowed.

Now how does he create from scratch? Does he just create things by thinking of it, or is the evolving little things like sharks and sheep to soldiers what you mean? Because evolving what's there is fine, but if he can just whip up a minion out of air, that's a bit of a stretch for me too.

Simply put, HE has the vast resources of all written material...including anything that Reed has written about the Negative Zone. It's all available to him. He will have a good idea of the who, what, where, why and how of the Negative Zone. From that, he'll make sure he knows what he's doing and what he's working with upon arrival in this location.

 

[Quentin Beck]

Thanos

 

[As The Beaver]

Thanos.

 

[Trigger]

Kang

 

[Harlekin]

Kang

Kang isn't fighting in this one, and you already voted.