Contest Of Marvels (Thread 1)

[JewishHobbit]

Hyperion
Spider-Girl
High Evolutionary
Frankie Raye

Yay, Trigger get's first round draft pick next season

 

[TheWaterologist]

Sorry Brodie, but once a vote is cast, it stays. Even if it was a mistake. I'm alright with a change if you do what Phaed did and accidently miss a match and vote for two people who are actually facing one another,... but since you voted one person per match, it stays.

WEll, fine, good for Spider-Girl

 

[Trigger]

Yay, Trigger get's first round draft pick next season

Don't play with my fragile emotions! ........I'm so delicate inside.

 

[POWdER-man]

Ezekial
High Evolutionary
Black Bolt
damn I want to say Hyperion.....so I said it...(it's close enough that it should be closer)

 

[Harlekin]

Thanos
Spider-Girl
High Evo
Frankie Raye

I said I would debate the Raye vs Bolt match, but in the end Phaed hardly did beside posting some matches he won in this tourney, and that's been covered. It's a tough match, although I obviously think Frankie has a chance to win it. Winner=Raye

 

[Phaedrus45]

Results So Far:

Thanos 6-3 over Hyperion
Spider-Girl 6-3 over Ezekial
High Evolutionary 8-1 over Proctor
Black Bolt 5-4 over Frankie Raye

 

[Phaedrus45]

I said I would debate the Raye vs Bolt match, but in the end Phaed hardly did beside posting some matches he won in this tourney, and that's been covered. It's a tough match, although I obviously think Frankie has a chance to win it. Winner=Raye

Actually, I did say more than what's been said. First, I was awaiting a response to see what approach you might take. But, I did counter some arguments not mentioned by you, including this information which says why Frankie Raye's powers aren't going to effect Black Bolt:

"Black Bolt isn't all about his ability to speak, even though that is definitely his most devestating weapon. His abilities are all effected by his ability to harness free-floating electrons. As his bio states in one section:

'He can form a field of highly-active electrons around himself with the wave of a hand, said field being capable of deflecting projectiles up to the mass of an MX missile traveling at its maximum speed. He can create particle / electron interaction fields solid enough to be traveled upon, though this phenomenon is a particularly difficult and exhausting one. He can use these electron fields as extrasensory probes which are highly sensitive to other electromagnetic energy phenomena.'

That alone shows that he would have been able to deflect anything that Jack Of Hearts OR Frankie Raye has to deliver at him. Also, if anyone remembers Frankie Raye, she wasn't the best Herald that Galactus ever had, that's for sure. In fact, it could possibly be debated she was the weakest of the group, even dying at the hands of Morg during the famous Herald Ordeal."

So, I have done more than just say Black Bolt's record speaks for itself. (Of which, even you thought Black Bolt would take out Jack Of Hearts when you voted.)

Winner - Black Bolt

 

[Sparta*]

Hyperion
Ezekial
Black Bolt
Proctor

 

[Quentin Beck]

Thanos
Spider Girl
High Evolutionary
Black Bolt

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Hyperion Vs Thanos

Well, you've pointed out that all the things I brought up regarding Hyperion can be done by Thanos, but it was never my point to show he's better than Thanos, but rather that he's not just some brute. It was just to show some clarification.

Figured that. Still wanted to make sure people who didn't know much about the Titan to think that he didn't have his own impressive feats, or what not, as well.

I wasn't aware that there's no other reality versions of Thanos, but Hyperion can still study Thanos himself. And you claim that it'd be very believable for Thanos to have studied Hyperion and such because his Squadran Supreme version has been to earth before, and that Thanos has studied other demensions... however,.... Thanos isn't ALWAYS watching, and there's no proof that he ever saw them on earth (being that it hasn't even been that many times). No hint, no mention, no clue,.. nothing. He watches the world, but he hasn't watched it every second of its history. And though he has studied other dimensions, it is obvious that Hyperion isn't in all of them (as he isn't in 616) and with the vast amount of worlds there are out there, I think without proof that Thanos has infact seen or studied Hyperion (one person chosen out of the billions per world, or however many they have),... it's a safer bet to assume he hasn't studied him than he has. I think that's a bigger assumption on your part than mine. That stated, I'm still standing by my decision that Thanos would not know Hyperion (not an official CoM rule or anything, just my opinion as a debater, for clarification).

Meh. From the ammount of knowledge Thanos has been shown to have (from the bio stats of an Asgardian, to interdimensional parasites, to Galactus' DNA), the fact that he's a colossal knowledge ****e (as mentioned he's one of the biggest), and the fact that he's known to keep tabs on the Earth along with the rest of the galaxy, as well as other dimension/realities it's not that big of a stretch to assume he'd have some info on a powerful group such as the Squadron Supreme.
Especially an individual, such as Hyperion, who would stand out among the teeming masses of humanity like a sore thumb.

And that still gives Hyperion the chance of winning. Thanos is a master planner and all that, but if he doesn't know what he's planning against, he loses most of that extra edge. I'm sure he'll still come into battle prepared, but he wont' know exactly how to be prepared and he may bring some good, and some bad things to help him. Meanwhile, Hyperion will be able to know EXACTLY how to prepare. However, I will not go further into that, as I already have and I don't want to just quote myself.



Keep in mind that it was 3am when I wrote that, and I was thinking of the item taken still as a resource of the crystal palace, as he used it to find the weakness, and to locate the item of weakness. However, now that I'm more awake, I can see how that could be seen as wrong, and if it wasn't my character I'd probably argue against it myself, so I'm omiting that idea. Though he can still look for such items (of coarse, not having read the comics with him in them, I don't know if there ever was something that could stop Thanos in the past, but oh well, it's pointless now).

Your argument about Arganite is pointless as well, I will state, because (at least in my opinion, and it's up to the voters) I feel that Thanos wouldn't know anything about Hyperion, and thus, wouldn't know to use Arganite. So that weakness, (in my opinion) isn't exploitable in this match. The same goes for his solar power being drainable. Thanos wouldn't know that, thus, he wouldn't know to do it.

Also, in THIS link to the normal Hyperion (whose powers still aply), it mentions cosmic energy a few times. Aparently he uses it to maintain his youth, as well as rechannel it into his eye blasts. It states that his body has the innate ability to metabolize cosmic energy. I only mention this so that any out there who may be thinking that "though he's tough, he can't hold up to cosmic blasts" I think this shows he can. I'm sure it'd still hurt him, but he deals with cosmic energy constantly. His body's use to it.

Never said he wouldn't be able to take a blast from Thanos.
I think he most definitely would.

I mentioned it because in the Silver Surfer issue I read (50 I think, right before the Infinity Gauntlet), he shows up before the Surfer, just talking, and the Surfer attacks him. He then goes on to talk for the remainder of the issue. And though I no longer have the infinity gauntlet comics to check, I remember him showing up on that little space island and just talking up a storm. So I thought it'd be safe to assume.

Yeah, that was when he had the IG and was the Supreme Power in the MU. He didn't really mean to do anything else but stall Surfer from reaching Strange, IIRC.

But either way, if he doesn't do that normally, then he and Hyperion would fight, and at any time during this fued Hyperion could use the talis to send him to another dimension, or into the crystal wall where dead exiles go. I assume you're right in that Thanos could do this as well, but why would he? In fighting Hyperion he will find him tough, but I think he will feel able to take him. I picture him more liable to try to figure out Hyperion before just ending it. He does like to study people after all

Actually, in the recent Annihilation Prologue, it's been mentioned that sending Thanos to another reality would not work since he can "move through realities".

And the last thing I'm going to mention before hitting the hey,... Hyperion would know that Thanos has a lot of technological resources. The Crystal Palace is a technological heaven. If he was able to use the palace to teach him how to be immune to Blink's power, I'm sure he can use the palace's technology to come up with something to take the power from other technological resources. He could probably do it straight from the main computer of the palace, and then during battle just access it through his talis. This is some assumption on my part, but with the quality and amount of tech in the crystal palace, something as small as an emp wave shouldn't be hard to figure out. This would be a big aid as I'd imagine it taking out some of Thanos' weapons, as well as his shields, and maybe even that little stasis gun you kept mentioning. Knocks that thing right out!

So yeah,.. Hyperion still stands his ground.

Winner - Hyperion

I can maybe see his stasis gun getting taken out by an EMP, but it's highly likely that the ever brilliant Titan has fail safes designed in his personal shielding against just such an attack. After all, he's been around for hundreds upon hundreds of years. It is highly likely that he has encountered such an attack before in those centuries and has used his vast intellect to counteract it.
Even still, he would not need his tech to take care of Hyperion. His plethora of powers would work just fine by themselves.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Thanos
Ezekial
High Evolutionary
Black Bolt

 

[Phaedrus45]

Updated Results:

Thanos 8-4 over Hyperion
Spider-Girl 7-5 over Ezekial
High Evolutionary 10-2 over Proctor
Black Bolt 8-4

 

[TheWaterologist]

Oh, man, Zeke is gonna get boned by me

 

[JewishHobbit]

Actually, in the recent Annihilation Prologue, it's been mentioned that sending Thanos to another reality would not work since he can "move through realities".

If Hyperion sends him into the crystal wall, he'd be in a sleeping state, not able to teleport anywhere else.

 

[Midnight Ice]

Ezekial
High Evolutionary
Black Bolt
Hyperion

 

[Da Docta]

Thanos
Spider-Girl
Proctor
Frankie Raye

 

[Phaedrus45]

Updated Results:

Thanos 9-5 over Hyperion
Spider-Girl 8-6 over Ezekial
High Evolutionary 11-3 over Proctor
Black Bolt 9-5

 

[POWdER-man]

VOTING HAS ENDED

Thanos wins over Hyperion 9-5
Spider-Girl wins over Ezekial 8-6
High Evolutionary wins over Proctor 11-3
Black Bolt wins over Frankie Raye 9-5

 

[Harlekin]

Can't say I'm surprised by the outcome. Congrats Phaed.

 

[Tank McGee]

Oh, god, I screwed Ezekial

 

[Phaedrus45]

Good matches, everyone. I knew I had a good chance of coming out with 3 characters this round...and, if I had to lose one, it was definitely Ezekial. He can walk away from his match with Spider-Girl to fight another day. Spider-Girl against Thanos reminds me of a week 1 match-up. But, who knows? Maybe Wolverine has some mad plan up his sleeve.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Good matches, everyone. I knew I had a good chance of coming out with 3 characters this round...and, if I had to lose one, it was definitely Ezekial. He can walk away from his match with Spider-Girl to fight another day. Spider-Girl against Thanos reminds me of a week 1 match-up. But, who knows? Maybe Wolverine has some mad plan up his sleeve.

Actually, it's a little known fact that Thanos is allergic to webbing. Deathly allergic.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Actually, it's a little known fact that Thanos is allergic to webbing. Deathly allergic.

Ooooo....I just thought of a mad as$ plan! It's on the goofy side...but, I can see Slott running with it.

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 1 FINAL MATCH-UP:

Thanos(BLAZE) bio




vs.

Spider-Girl(WOLVERINE) bio

 

[Phaedrus45]

BRACKET 2 FINAL MATCH-UP:

High Evolutionary(PHAED) bio




vs.

Black Bolt(PHAED) bio