Cop Shoots 8th Grader After He "Charges" At Cop

[mrvlknight21]

Im just saying how I feel. I dont distrust all cops. They have many great cops. All saying is that where I LIVE I don't trust them. Their corrupt and power hungry. That just figures into my view of all cops though.

Ok. You havent named any personal experiences. Which is fine, you are going on reported problems (which are going to happen, as I stated in my first post, because there are bad people in all professions). And Superferret mentioned that negative press regarding police sells more papers than the positive, which often NEVER sees the public eye in print or media form.


But I will use your rationale in regards to black people. True stories: I have twice been jumped by black people and was told that it was because I was white, I have never been jumped by any white people. I also had a black friend steal money from me. None of my white friends have stolen money from me. SO>>>>>based on your rationale, I should be fearful/cautious around black people IN MY AREA (even though there may be some great black people in my area)......?

Or does this only apply to professions and not race? Ok then, I have had 2 bad personal experiences with used car salesmen and my friends have as well. So, I should mistrust most all used car salesmen IN MY AREA (even though there may be some honest ones in my area).....?

 

[Bubonic]

you won't find it, that news story was released "for print only"


Also don't want to get shot by the cops then don't
1)commit a crime in front of them
2)flee after committing said crime
3)Hid in a shed (seriously keep fleeing)
4)Trespass on someone's property in Tx.

This kid deserved to get shot for being stupid, but he didn't deserve to die

I wish I could go off on you, but I sort of like this board and wouldn't want to be banned for personal attacks.

He was a 14 year old miscreant. Taze him if you must, but to say a ****ing twerp DESERVES to get shot for being stupid? What the hell is wrong with you, are you really that despicable and shallow-minded?

 

[Trainwreck2100]

I wish I could go off on you, but I sort of like this board and wouldn't want to be banned for personal attacks.

He was a 14 year old miscreant. Taze him if you must, but to say a ****ing twerp DESERVES to get shot for being stupid? What the hell is wrong with you, are you really that despicable and shallow-minded?

A 14 year old "miscreant" who sucker punches people and runs away who already had a prior. If juvie didn't teach him i doubt tazing would have. Besides cops hear are getting in trouble for overusing their tazers.

 

[mrvlknight21]

I wish I could go off on you, but I sort of like this board and wouldn't want to be banned for personal attacks.

He was a 14 year old miscreant. Taze him if you must, but to say a ****ing twerp DESERVES to get shot for being stupid? What the hell is wrong with you, are you really that despicable and shallow-minded?

A 14 year old "miscreant" who sucker punches people and runs away who already had a prior. If juvie didn't teach him i doubt tazing would have. Besides cops hear are getting in trouble for overusing their tazers.

Tasers are not made to be "punishment." They are simply one tool that an officer has to gain compliance.

Based on the article, the kid deserved punishment and definitely made some bad choices after the actual incident (punch). But again, the taser is not that punishment, nor should a firearm ever be (unless someone is sentenced to die at the hands of a firing squad).

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

Ok. You havent named any personal experiences. Which is fine, you are going on reported problems (which are going to happen, as I stated in my first post, because there are bad people in all professions). An Superferret mentioned that negative press regarding police sells more papers than the positive, which often NEVER sees the public eye in print or media form.


But I will use your rationale in regards to black people. True stories: I have twice been jumped by black people and was told that it was because I was white, I have never been jumped by any white people. I also had a black friend steal money from me. None of my white friends have stolen money from me. SO>>>>>based on your rationale, I should be fearful/cautious around black people IN MY AREA (even though there may be some great black people in my area)......?

Or does this only apply to professions and not race? Ok then, I have had 2 bad personal experiences with used car salesmen and my friends have as well. So, I should mistrust most all used car salesmen IN MY AREA (even though there may be some honest ones in my area).....?

To be honest I'd be cautious. Thats simple to me. Fool me once...You know. In nature you adapt. In situations like this is no different. Be cautious around black and by a New car.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Henry_Glover
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2011/05/new_orleans_top_police_officer.html

Personal story. My dad was pulled over by the cops one day and I was in the passenger seat. I was just shock and nervous because my dad had never gotten pulled over before while I was in the car. So I didn't notice that a another cop was knocking on my window and he wanted me to open the door. I finally noticed him and open my door. The police officer decides to get belligerent with me because I didn't notice him. He has a ****ed up attitude and he tells me to get out the car and I get search for basically no reason at all, just because I didn't notice him. Even though I told him, I was paying attention to my dad the whole time and I was shocked so thats why I never notice him and add to the fact that I am a minor. He lets me get back in my dad's car after giving him a ticket. So yeah I don't like cops for personal and just because their corrupt.

Seriously your freaking crazy if you think that kid should have been shot. Because he ran, because he punched a kid, because he has priors, he deserved to get shot for that. Jesus what is wrong with you. He was a 14 year old kid for Christ's sake.

 

[mrvlknight21]

To be honest I'd be cautious. Thats simple to me. Fool me once...You know. In nature you adapt. In situations like this is no different. Be cautious around black and by a New car.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Henry_Glover
http://www.nola.com/opinions/index.ssf/2011/05/new_orleans_top_police_officer.html

Personal story. My dad was pulled over by the cops one day and I was in the passenger seat. I was just shock and nervous because my dad had never gotten pulled over before while I was in the car. So I didn't notice that a another cop was knocking on my window and he wanted me to open the door. I finally noticed him and open my door. The police officer decides to get belligerent with me because I didn't notice him. He has a ****ed up attitude and he tells me to get out the car and I get search for basically no reason at all, just because I didn't notice him. Even though I told him, I was paying attention to my dad the whole time and I was shocked so thats why I never notice him and add to the fact that I am a minor. He lets me get back in my dad's car after giving him a ticket. So yeah I don't like cops for personal and just because their corrupt.

So, in your opinion, the fact that I and other people, here in my area, deal with black people EVERY DAY, multiple times a day, without any issues or incidents....I should still have fear and cautiousness based on those 2 personal incidents I had......WOW is all I can say.


Also, your personal story in NO WAY showed that those cops or any other cops are corrupt.

 

[mrvlknight21]

Seriously your freaking crazy if you think that kid should have been shot. Because he ran, because he punched a kid, because he has priors, he deserved to get shot for that. Jesus what is wrong with you. He was a 14 year old kid for Christ's sake.

WHOA. Slow down there.
I NEVER, EVER said that that kid should have been shot. I never alluded to it, never insinuated it or anything remotely close to that.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

WHOA. Slow down there.
I NEVER, EVER said that that kid should have been shot. I never alluded to it, never insinuated it or anything remotely close to that.

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about trainwreak

 

[mrvlknight21]

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about trainwreak

You typed that in the post where you quoted me. Thats why I thought that.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

So, in your opinion, the fact that I and other people, here in my area, deal with black people EVERY DAY, multiple times a day, without any issues or incidents....I should still have fear and cautiousness based on those 2 personal incidents I had......WOW is all I can say.


Also, your personal story in NO WAY showed that those cops or any other cops are corrupt.

Not fear as much as cautionness. I just saying there have been women who have been raped and are now scared of that race. Even if you didn't really think it, you might think it subconsciously. And also its not even a race thing, if two women steal from me, imma be keep my eye out on women. If two dogs attack me, Imma be keep an eye out on dogs. Its just being conscious of your surroundings.

Also my person story was adding to the fact I dont like cops, those three articles are how their corrupt.

I didn't feel like quoting mrv

 

[mrvlknight21]

Not fear as much as cautionness. I just saying there have been women who have been raped and are now scared of that race. Even if you didn't really think it, you might think it subconsciously. And also its not even a race thing, if two women steal from me, imma be keep my eye out on women. If two dogs attack me, Imma be keep an eye out on dogs. Its just being conscious of your surroundings.

Also my person story was adding to the fact I dont like cops, those three articles are how their corrupt.

I didn't feel like quoting mrv

I agree that having situational awareness and being survivial/safety minded is a good idea (in all situations). But if we base that awareness and mindset on fear as a result of past incidents, whether our own or just one that we read about, then we end up directing it at a certain sex, race, etc. That is when it could become a problem.
You dont know me and you may not care, but as a suggestion, saying something like "As a result of multiple incidents of police brutality and corrutpion in my area, I find it hard to trust police and often treat situations involving them with caution" sounds a lot more mature and clearly is not disrespectful, like your original post, which said "F*** the police."

 

[Sweet Xstacy]

you won't find it, that news story was released "for print only"


Also don't want to get shot by the cops then don't
1)commit a crime in front of them
2)flee after committing said crime
3)Hid in a shed (seriously keep fleeing)
4)Trespass on someone's property in Tx.

This kid deserved to get shot for being stupid, but he didn't deserve to die

Makes sense- since cops are trigger happy.

 

[The Morningstar]

People do not deserve to get shot just because they punched someone. People get punched all the ****ing time. I don't think punching someone is an arrest worthy offense anyway. Let alone an offense that requires a firearm to even be taken out of the holster.

Seriously, are you some kind of misanthrope Trainwreck?

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

I agree that having situational awareness and being survivial/safety minded is a good idea (in all situations). But if we base that awareness and mindset on fear as a result of past incidents, whether our own or just one that we read about, then we end up directing it at a certain sex, race, etc. That is when it could become a problem.
You dont know me and you may not care, but as a suggestion, saying something like "As a result of multiple incidents of police brutality and corrutpion in my area, I find it hard to trust police and often treat situations involving them with caution" sounds a lot more mature and clearly is not disrespectful, like your original post, which said "F*** the police."

It's not suppose to be respectful or I would have just said I don't like the police,

 

[mrvlknight21]

It's not suppose to be respectful or I would have just said I don't like the police,

So your intention, by saying "F*** the police" was to make an insulting/disrespectful remark about THOUSANDS of men and women in the law enforcement profession?

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

theres always a couple ******ed cops out there...
i had a cop make fun of me to my face in front of a group of redneck friends of his for no reason...i think he said i was a ferry for seeing benjamin button or something...he was one of those tough guys...reported him and now i dont see him anymore...but this guy? from what i hear hes double scum and should be in some serious junk...yet the story seems odd

 

[The Morningstar]

I remember when I was younger, about 16 I think. These cops apparently smelled weed around me and a few of my friends, so they searched us, which is fair enough I guess. One of them found some rizla papers on me, then said that was enough evidence to take me back to the station and strip search me. I stood up for myself and said all the "I know my rights" crap, and the other cops agreed with me then let us go on our way.

2 years later it's revealed that the cop who so desperately wanted to strip search me was found to have pictures of young children on his computer at home. He was a peedo.

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

what the ****....that is crazy as heck lol

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea I know! Lucky i stood up for myself.

 

[LegendaryCaleb]

smart guy...at 16 i would of just pissed my pants...i was an idiot

 

[Quasimod0]

Ya didnt feel like removing your pants i guess?

 

[The Morningstar]

Na, I think the guy wanted me back at the station so he could do a cavity search. *gulp*

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

So your intention, by saying "F*** the police" was to make an insulting/disrespectful remark about THOUSANDS of men and women in the law enforcement profession?

Yeah . I mean me saying that is no different from people saying that they hate Lawyers, IRS, etc. Yeah they got some good ones and we do need them but we still say **** em. The good gotta suffer for the bad. It's like a sports team. A bad team might have some good players but their bad players are REALLY freaking bad and make them a horrible team.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

People do not deserve to get shot just because they punched someone. People get punched all the ****ing time. I don't think punching someone is an arrest worthy offense anyway. Let alone an offense that requires a firearm to even be taken out of the holster.

Seriously, are you some kind of misanthrope Trainwreck?

You don't think assault is an arrest worthy offense? If two guys are fighting then sure they should go cool off depending on the circumstances. But in this case one guy was minding his own business and the other just hit him. And you're right punching someone isn't a reason for a gun to be takes out of a holster. Fleeing the scene of a crime however is.

 

[TheIncredibleSk]

You don't think assault is an arrest worthy offense? If two guys are fighting then sure they should go cool off depending on the circumstances. But in this case one guy was minding his own business and the other just hit him. And you're right punching someone isn't a reason for a gun to be takes out of a holster. Fleeing the scene of a crime however is.

A 14 YEAR OLD KID. The kid was scared like any kid would be and ran. I dont blame him. Also Kids do dumb **** like this because well....um...oh right THEIR KIDS. The KID went to a school for trouble youth so he had some problems with things like this anyway. Any reasonable cop wouldn't have taken out their gun, maybe the taser but not a gun. This kid died because the cop didn't wanna do his job and got mad because he had to run after the kid. He didn't deserve to get shot, let alone die because he punched a kid.