Shlee
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Jesus Christ...Projection much? I've met plenty of Germans, and because I'm not a lazy ***hole I don't stereotype them and sit back wondering if he's going to start goose-stepping and trying to gas me. This says a lot about you, is the first thing you think of when you meet a German "Oh God, dude's probably going to start carving swastikas into my furniture..."?
Miraculously, when I meet a German in 2014 I don't assume he's a Nazi from 1939. I also don't meet a black guy and assume he's a thief. I don't meet an Asian and wonder if they're smart and bad drivers. I don't meet a Muslim and assume he's a jihadist. What I do do though, and what I would implore other people to do is treat whoever you come into contact with on a case by case basis.
How ****ing ridiculous would it be if everyone was held responsible for the historical crimes of their ancestors? Come on man, I advocate historical sensitivity and thinking things through, but trying to claim "WE as whites? What gives you the right to stipulate what people should or shouldn't feel responsible for?
When did I say that I got terrified? When I hear that someone is German, the reflexive thought in my head is "Holocaust". That's my association with Germany. I don't automatically assume every German I meet is a ****ing Nazi, nor do I assume anything about most people that I meet. In fact, when I find myself making those reflexive judgments, I call myself out on it because I try very hard not to be a racist *******.
All I am trying to say is that "white" is associated with a LOT of oppression, even as recently as the 1960s (as far as explicit and very visible oppression and discrimination goes) here in the US. That's just how it is; that's how it's going to be. The biggest impact your ethnicity or race or nationality or WHATEVER has had on other people is what they are going to think of FIRST, and it takes getting to know individuals or educating yourself on others or other aspects of their history, or at least being open-minded and realizing that not everyone fits the stereotype or association you have before people can see past those things.
I don't fault anyone for being cautious to trust or listen to people who have systematically been the oppressors.
I as an individual know what I advocate for and who I advocate for, but that doesn't mean I can't recognize and acknowledge that people like me have been responsible for some pretty reprehensible things done to other people, and that we create these quick-judgment walls as a way of protecting ourselves from the possible "bad apples". But yeah, absolutely, we have to be open-minded enough to know that "not all _____" are the same, and to judge individuals individually.
You don't fault someone for not being able to pick out the poisonous M&M in a jar though.