Could BND have been done with a Married Spidey?

[farmernudie]

The entire reboot started downhill.

 

[Dom]

It's interesting that Amazing #302 was mentioned, because that story has an entirely new dynamic if you consider Peter and MJ are just dating and not married.
The reason Peter didn't take the job was because he didn't want to upset MJ's life and career by taking her from NYC. If they were just dating, why didn't Pete take the job? He even says in the story it's their marriage that made him decide to stay.

 

[arachnid-guy]

It's interesting that Amazing #302 was mentioned, because that story has an entirely new dynamic if you consider Peter and MJ are just dating and not married.
The reason Peter didn't take the job was because he didn't want to upset MJ's life and career by taking her from NYC. If they were just dating, why didn't Pete take the job? He even says in the story it's their marriage that made him decide to stay.

Oh, Marvel.



Expect us to go back, read all those stories and replace the word 'marriage'? Bah.

 

[farmernudie]

I've been having lots of time to re-read my extensive back issues...and honestly....most of the stories do not work now...by taking the marriage out and having had "never happened".

So, i just read them the way they are,....married....and try not to let it creep into my mind (tough not to think about with this crap) that they aren't or didn't.

Dumb.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, if you're against the marriage retcon as much as you seem to be, just consider a somewhat edited OMD the end of Spider-Man. Everything happened the way the back issues say it did and there is no retconning because Spider-Man's story is effectively over. He laughs at Mephisto, May dies with Peter knowing she's content to go at that point, and Peter and MJ live happily ever after. 45 years ain't a bad run, right?

Oh, Marvel.



Expect us to go back, read all those stories and replace the word 'marriage'? Bah.

I think they mostly expected people to shrug and go "okay" at the marriage/dating difference, then continue to read the new issues and ignore the old.

 

[arachnid-guy]

I think they mostly expected people to shrug and go "okay" at the marriage/dating difference, then continue to read the new issues and ignore the old.

Meh.

Mehmehmehmehmehmehmeh.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Well, for the most part, they were right. Remember, we BND-haters (or BND-indifferenters, I guess, at this point) are the minority.

 

[moraldeficiency]

yes we are, but that's true for most people that appreciate quality over mass produced crap, so we're in good company.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That's what I choose to believe.

 

[moraldeficiency]

it's not what you choose, it's just simple truth. The masses watch american idol and arrested development gets cancelled.

 

[random_havoc]

I simply ended my collection with the last Sensational Spider-Man issue before OMD (I think that's the one anyway). It's like that issue was almost meant to be a finale for people who wouldn't want to read Spidey anymore because in it basically God shows up and explains to Peter why things are they way they are and why his life has been worthwhile. It's a very nice conclusion and I'm quite content not to read anything that came after it. NOTHING post OMD will get a dime of my money until they set right the whole deal-with-the-devil thing.

 

[hippie_hunter]

They went all BND with the Spidey newspaper comic strip

http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/6895625.html

 

[Blader5489]

It's interesting that Amazing #302 was mentioned, because that story has an entirely new dynamic if you consider Peter and MJ are just dating and not married.
The reason Peter didn't take the job was because he didn't want to upset MJ's life and career by taking her from NYC. If they were just dating, why didn't Pete take the job? He even says in the story it's their marriage that made him decide to stay.

So the concept of Peter Parker, an all-around good guy to begin with, not wanting to uproot his girlfriend for the sake of a job is lost on you?

 

[BrianWilly]

Uprooting a girlfriend, no matter how developed the relationship is, is a completely different social situation than uprooting a wife. That's the point, it's different. Being married to someone for all these years and not being married to someone all these years are completely different situations. Marvel going "No no no it's not different it's the same" is just feigning dumbness and hoping that no one notices.

 

[moraldeficiency]

Look slott already explained that BND would be just fanfic with a married peter parker because being married changes your character. So if one year of ASM stories can't work with a married peter parker without it being fanfic wank then obviously 20 years of stories that now contain a fundamental character change have become fanwank, and that's not my reasoning, that's slott's.