Critics' Reviews: Discussion

[Goliath]

I think the IMDB rating will be a better rating to see the overall impression of the film (even though a lot of people either vote 1 or 10). Bringing statistics into this, a sample of thousands is usually better than a sample of hundreds.

Wouldn't it be better to vote "9" then?

I find the positive comments on the user comments page to be helpful over there.

 

[night0205]

yeah chaseter it hurts my eyes too...and I don't like heroes...X-men done with same quality of production as Battlestar would be amazing!

 

[Deaths Head II]

BTW- your avatar hurts my eyes. Geez.

Don't diss the raptor rave.

 

[chaseter]

Not dumb, just jaded.

IM & TDK being good movies and widely popular takes the pressure off. You don't have to be pricipled or take a stand to praise them.

BTW- your avatar hurts my eyes. Geez.

If they loved this movie would you be singing praises about how those critics are right on? I thought some of the critics were dumb for bashing X3 and then I saw the movie I have already seen the movie so it is interesting to be on the opposite side this go around and everything I said was wrong with this movie they are saying.

I have like 2 or 3 critics that I found that closely mirror my taste and I listen to them a lot of the times.

 

[Spider-Fan]

yeah chaseter it hurts my eyes too...and I don't like heroes...X-men done with same quality of production as Battlestar would be amazing!

I suggested the show

I actually plotted out 5 seasons of an X-Men show a couple months ago. My favorite season I came up with was for my 4th season

It's not a detailed plotting or anything...but I have an idea of what I'd do. Since the X-Men are teamed based, I feel having more time to allow the characters to develop on TV would be a better way to go.

 

[night0205]

I'm not dissin it...it just confuses me in my head movies.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Some of the reviews that are labled rotten aren't really but those reviews are only saying it's okay. I think that will be the overall feeling coming from the average moviegoer too. I often disagree with the critics (Hellboy 2 and Superman Returns didn't derserve their good notices) so I'm not taking anything to heart.

They could have loved the flick and I still would think that it was mediocre. I still see it opening with 85 to 100mil and having bad legs either way. (not because of the poor reviews, Transformers didn't have great reviews and it had good legs after a huge opening)

Here are my final predictions:

Opening weekend: 90mil:

Total: 195mil.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I'll say it. X3 was better (can't believe it myself)

You say that like X-Men 3 is a bad movie or something.

 

[danoyse]

Just gone up to 44%. OMG ISN'T THIS EXCITING!

Personally I don't really care about the opinion of James whoever who writes for whichever newspaper. Obviously good reviews are preferred but i'm not going to let other opinions (good or bad) affect what I think when I eventually see it. What critics think is only one factor that defines whether a movie was a hit or not.

I know, I'm the same way. Even with the critics I do follow I still find myself completely disagreeing with them on a lot of movies. I'll check RT when it's a movie I don't know much about, but stuff like this I don't really depend on RT for a consensus. I don't even think I read too many of the TDK reviews there last summer.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I don't monitor RT or anything, but I do notice many complaints being cited by critics that fans were citing. That's really the only interesting thing I find with RT's score.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Am I the only person on the planet that *doesn't* follow a critic of any kind?

I see movies, and decide solely for myself. I don't listen to critics *at all*.

I don't read reviews, I don't watch critics TV shows, I don't do any of it.

I see promotional material for a movie and decide if I want to watch it based on it's subject matter, and if it looks interesting or not. If I like it, I give it a high rating. If I don't like it, I give it a low rating.

Critics don't come into play anywhere with my movie watching process.

 

[Mike059jig]

Roger Eberts review is very amusing, he gave it 2 stars.

 

[Deaths Head II]

It's doing even worse on Metacritic (which I trust a lot more then Rottentomatoes...it only counts top critics and averages the numbers they give instead of just a pass/fail system).

38/100 - Generally negative reviews.

X-Men: The Last Stand got around a 58. Mixed reviews.

 

[Theweepeople]

That was an incredibly fast drop. I didn't expect Wolverine to get ratings this low. I expected something similar to X3. The RT community rating is 58% with a top critic rating of 33% which produces an abysmal overall rating of 41%. The percentage could fluctuate up a little but, right now this is one of the worst rated comic films of all time.

Catwoman(10%), Fantastic four(26%), The spirit(14%), LXG(16%), and Blade Trinity(28%) are some of the more recent comic films with worst ratings.

 

[CelticPredator]

Critics dertermine nothing. But still....it'll end up in the low 50's.

 

[Theweepeople]

Some of the reviews that are labled rotten aren't really but those reviews are only saying it's okay. I think that will be the overall feeling coming from the average moviegoer too. I often disagree with the critics (Hellboy 2 and Superman Returns didn't derserve their good notices) so I'm not taking anything to heart.

They could have loved the flick and I still would think that it was mediocre. I still see it opening with 85 to 100mil and having bad legs either way. (not because of the poor reviews, Transformers didn't have great reviews and it had good legs after a huge opening)

Here are my final predictions:

Opening weekend: 90mil:

Total: 195mil.

I agree with most of this. My first boxoffice prediction was somewhere in between X1 and X3. I adjusted it to in between X1 and X2. I'm not sure if it will break the 200million barrier but, I don't think it will make more than X2.

 

[danoyse]

My rule with critics is that if it's a movie like this that I want to see, I usually don't bother reading the reviews until after I've already seen it. I do read them, but I'm not dependent on them because my mind is pretty much made up about the movie already.

If it's a movie I'm on the fence about, I'll check RT to get a consensus and usually make the decision from there.

The thing with RT is that sometimes a movie rated 'fresh' isn't all that positive, and sometimes a 'rotten' movie wasn't so much a rotten review. I can never really tell how they score them the way they do.

One of my favorite movies was The Fountain, and that got a 50% on RT. And that's just wrong.

But I've been going to movies long enough to know what to expect from critics (and I'm not seeing any surprises with what's happening with Wolverine so far)...sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. I'm still seeing the movie on Friday night.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Am I the only person on the planet that *doesn't* follow a critic of any kind?

I see movies, and decide solely for myself. I don't listen to critics *at all*.

I don't read reviews, I don't watch critics TV shows, I don't do any of it.

I see promotional material for a movie and decide if I want to watch it based on it's subject matter, and if it looks interesting or not. If I like it, I give it a high rating. If I don't like it, I give it a low rating.

Critics don't come into play anywhere with my movie watching process.

Good for you.

I don't think people on here were exactly saying that they let critics decide which movie they like...I know I damn sure don't. I'm not ashamed to say that on movies I'm shakey on I will not see it if said film has terrible reviews from 70 percent of the critics.

 

[Theweepeople]

Critics dertermine nothing. But still....it'll end up in the low 50's.

I agree. If this film ended up with a 90% I still wouldn't have seen it in the theaters. I'm just suprised at how far it dropped on RT. I expected a percentage in the high 50s or low 60s.

 

[Spider-Fan]

My rule with critics is that if it's a movie like this that I want to see, I usually don't bother reading the reviews until after I've already seen it. I do read them, but I'm not dependent on them because my mind is pretty much made up about the movie already.

If it's a movie I'm on the fence about, I'll check RT to get a consensus and usually make the decision from there.

The thing with RT is that sometimes a movie rated 'fresh' isn't all that positive, and sometimes a 'rotten' movie wasn't so much a rotten review. I can never really tell how they score them the way they do.

One of my favorite movies was The Fountain, and that got a 50% on RT. And that's just wrong.

But I've been going to movies long enough to know what to expect from critics (and I'm not seeing any surprises with what's happening with Wolverine so far)...sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. I'm still seeing the movie on Friday night.

AGREED!!!

But The Fountain is a love it or hate it movie. Not really much middle ground with your feelings on it. Thus, critics will be polarized on a film like that.

 

[night0205]

This isn't the type of movie critics would love anyways...

 

[Deaths Head II]

The thing with RT is that sometimes a movie rated 'fresh' isn't all that positive, and sometimes a 'rotten' movie wasn't so much a rotten review. I can never really tell how they score them the way they do.

That's why Metacritic is way better.

RottenTomatoes is just pass or fail, regardless of what the score is. I also like how there are three categories instead of just fresh or rotten. Knowing the Fountain got mixed reviews is better then knowing it got a rotten score.

 

[PWN3R]

Roger Eberts review is very amusing, he gave it 2 stars.

That he is, haha.

His half-brother was Victor (Liev Schreiber). Their story starts in "1840 -- the Northwest Territories of Canada," a neat trick, since Canada was formed in 1867, and its Northwest Territories in 1870.But you didn't come here for a history lesson. Or maybe you did, if you need to know that Logan and Victor became Americans (still before they could be Canadians) and fought side by side in the Civil War, World War I, World War II and Vietnam. Why they did this, I have no idea. Maybe they just enjoyed themselves.

 

[danoyse]

AGREED!!!

But The Fountain is a love it or hate it movie. Not really much middle ground with your feelings on it. Thus, critics will be polarized on a film like that.

It was - I saw it in the theater 3 times, but I made sure I went in the morning or a matinee because I knew the audiences that showed up at night were going to be unbearable. You go early, you got us art snobs and film students. Worked out perfect.

I still think the critics who panned that one should be beaten with their own laptops.

 

[Theweepeople]

My rule with critics is that if it's a movie like this that I want to see, I usually don't bother reading the reviews until after I've already seen it. I do read them, but I'm not dependent on them because my mind is pretty much made up about the movie already.

If it's a movie I'm on the fence about, I'll check RT to get a consensus and usually make the decision from there.

The thing with RT is that sometimes a movie rated 'fresh' isn't all that positive, and sometimes a 'rotten' movie wasn't so much a rotten review. I can never really tell how they score them the way they do.

One of my favorite movies was The Fountain, and that got a 50% on RT. And that's just wrong.

But I've been going to movies long enough to know what to expect from critics (and I'm not seeing any surprises with what's happening with Wolverine so far)...sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. I'm still seeing the movie on Friday night.

I can't comment on that film but, I do think the critics that gave Serenity a rating over 80% are crazy. Here are some other RT reviews I disagree with.

Transformers(57%), I-Robot(58%), Hellboy(80%), and Indiana Jones 4(76%).