'Da Vinci Code' Sparks Indian Riots

[celldog]

1. I know what gnostic means, no need for the quotes.
2. It does stand to reason that he might believe these things, but I still think he's looking for more publicity.
3. The bold words thing is really annoying.

Well, I'm annoyed that the "bold" function annoys you. What's the big deal. I'm glad you know what it means. If that the case, you should realize that gnostics hold to many of these beliefs depicted in the novel. Does that irritate you or something?

 

[celldog]

And even if it is "just publicity" , it's still pretty despicable.

 

[Carter]

Why is a different opinion such a problem?
The Catholic church promotes tons of things they can't confirm as fact.

 

[ampersand]

Well, I'm annoyed that the "bold" function annoys you. What's the big deal. I'm glad you know what it means. If that the case, you should realize that gnostics hold to many of these beliefs depicted in the novel. Does that irritate you or something?

What's funny is that I was only annoyed at the way you made certain words bold. The whole thing bold doesn't bother me.

Anyway, I didn't know Brown had gnostic beliefs. And that doesn't irritate me.

 

[ampersand]

Why is a different opinion such a problem?
The Catholic church promotes tons of things they can't confirm as fact.

Not to mention the Catholic church teaches to not judge others, which you are blatantly doing.

 

[celldog]

Why is a different opinion such a problem?
The Catholic church promotes tons of things they can't confirm as fact.

This isn't about the Catholic Church more than it is about the person of Christ upon whom the very foundation of Christianity rests. This is bigger than the church. So I don't care about traditions they can't verify. I care about the facts! The historical and biblical facts.

Brown says that Da vinci was a grandmaster in the Priory of Sion. The Priory didn't exist until 1956. This whole story revolves around this group holding on to the documents that say Jesus was never crucified and that he got married and had kids. In a court of law, Brown would be thrown out of court. Without this, there is nothing.

Facts.....nothing but the facts.

 

[celldog]

What's funny is that I was only annoyed at the way you made certain words bold. The whole thing bold doesn't bother me.

Anyway, I didn't know Brown had gnostic beliefs. And that doesn't irritate me.

Good.

 

[ampersand]

This isn't about the Catholic Church more than it is about the person of Christ upon whom the very foundation of Christianity rests. This is bigger than the church. So I don't care about traditions they can't verify. I care about the facts! The historical and biblical facts.

Brown says that Da vinci was a grandmaster in the Priory of Sion. The Priory didn't exist until 1956. This whole story revolves around this group holding on to the documents that say Jesus was never crucified and that he got married and had kids. In a court of law, Brown would be thrown out of court. Without this, there is nothing.

Facts.....nothing but the facts.

If these are such indisputable facts, why hasn't anyone just come out and said that? What you're saying here makes it sound like these people are protesting and burning Brown's books while they could just be showing him the evidence that he is wrong.

 

[Carter]

This isn't about the Catholic Church more than it is about the person of Christ upon whom the very foundation of Christianity rests. This is bigger than the church. So I don't care about traditions they can't verify. I care about the facts! The historical and biblical facts.

Brown says that Da vinci was a grandmaster in the Priory of Sion. The Priory didn't exist until 1956. This whole story revolves around this group holding on to the documents that say Jesus was never crucified and that he got married and had kids. In a court of law, Brown would be thrown out of court. Without this, there is nothing.

Facts.....nothing but the facts.

The foundation of Christianity also rests upon the fact that Jesus was the son of god...so once again, what's the difference?
Brown knows that much of his story is fiction. The Priory of Scion is only a group of protectors. It's doesn't have anything to do with Jesus being married or not.

 

[Slipknot]

Damn, celldog sucks so much.

 

[Carter]

Wow, Brown altered a fact that has nothing to do with his point, and is only used to propel the story forward. Big Deal.

Whether or not he ripped these ideas off is another thing

 

[celldog]

If these are such indisputable facts, why hasn't anyone just come out and said that? What you're saying here makes it sound like these people are protesting and burning Brown's books while they could just be showing him the evidence that he is wrong.

Tons of Christians have spoken out. You just don't listen to the radio and tv wher you can here them. And the media is hardly trying to put microphones in their faces just to make it fair.

D.James Kennedy
Hank Hangegraaf
Josh McDowell
Erwin Lutzer
John McArthur
chuck swindol
Lee Strobel
Paul Meir

I could go on and on.....

You won't see ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC or FOX go get these guys for an interview.

 

[InsaneMembrane]

umm they aren't rioting

 

[celldog]

Damn, celldog sucks so much.

Is that all you have to contribute?? LOL

 

[ampersand]

Tons of Christians have spoken out. You just don't listen to the radio and tv wher you can here them. And the media is hardly trying to put microphones in their faces just to make it fair.

D.James Kennedy
Hank Hangegraaf
Josh McDowell
Erwin Lutzer
John McArthur
chuck swindol
Lee Strobel
Paul Meir

I could go on and on.....

You won't see ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC or FOX go get these guys for an interview.

The reason they aren't being put on prominent news channels is that they are Christian. If a secular historian said it, people would be much more likely to listen because he/she is not biased.

 

[Slipknot]

Is that all you have to contribute?? LOL

You seriously do though. I'm not going to come in here and argue with you when I know that it won't go anywhere. I'm not going to get into it when studying for finals. But... you really do suck at life.

 

[celldog]

The foundation of Christianity also rests upon the fact that Jesus was the son of god...so once again, what's the difference?

But it also rests on the resurrection! that's the gospel message. Change that, and you have no faith.....no christianity. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.


Brown knows that much of his story is fiction. The Priory of Scion is only a group of protectors. It's doesn't have anything to do with Jesus being married or not.

They are not a group of protectors. They didn't even exist in the time of Da Vinci! Didn't you just read my last post on this??? And they had no documents either!!!

 

[celldog]

In reality the Priory is gentleman's social club founded in 1956.

 

[ampersand]

They are not a group of protectors. They didn't even exist in the time of Da Vinci! Didn't you just read my last post on this??? And they had no documents either!!!

Do you have proof?

 

[celldog]

You seriously do though. I'm not going to come in here and argue with you when I know that it won't go anywhere. I'm not going to get into it when studying for finals. But... you really do suck at life.

Good luck on your finals. LOL

 

[Slipknot]

Good luck on your finals. LOL

Stop bolding things... and saying "LOL" in capital letters just makes my opinion of you sink even lower. Thanks for the kind words.

 

[Carter]

They are not a group of protectors. They didn't even exist in the time of Da Vinci! Didn't you just read my last post on this??? And they had no documents either!!!

This is ridiculous, the Catholic Church didn't even acknlowedge the existence of dinosaurs until recently.
So, some guy writes a fictitous book with a few altered facts, and you take it that he's contradicting the bible, through lies.

No, he's doing it under FICTION.

He never said everything in his book was true.

 

[celldog]

Do you have proof?

This from page 2

THE LAST WORD; The Da Vinci Con
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By LAURA MILLER
Published: February 22, 2004
Thus liberated, Lincoln et al. concoct an argument that is not so much factual as fact-ish. Dozens of credible details are heaped up in order to provide a legitimizing cushion for rank nonsense. Unremarkable legends (that Merovingian kings were thought to have a healing touch, for example) are characterized as suggestive clues or puzzles demanding solution. Highly contested interpretations (that, say, an early Grail romance depicts the sacred object as being guarded by Templars) are presented as established truth. Sources -- such as the New Testament -- are qualified as ''questionable'' and derivative when they contradict the conspiracy theory, then microscopically scrutinized for inconsistencies that might support it. The authors spin one gossamer strand of conjecture over another, forming a web dense enough to create the illusion of solidity. Though bogus, it's an impressive piece of work.

Finally, though, the legitimacy of the Priory of Sion history rests on a cache of clippings and pseudonymous documents that even the authors of ''Holy Blood, Holy Grail'' suggest were planted in the Bibliothèque Nationale by a man named Pierre Plantard. As early as the 1970's, one of Plantard's confederates had admitted to helping him fabricate the materials, including genealogical tables portraying Plantard as a descendant of the Merovingians (and, presumably, of Jesus Christ) and a list of the Priory's past ''grand masters.'' This patently silly catalog of intellectual celebrities stars Botticelli, Isaac Newton, Jean Cocteau and, of course, Leonardo da Vinci -- and it's the same list Dan Brown trumpets, along with the alleged nine-century pedigree of the Priory, in the front matter for ''The Da Vinci Code,'' under the heading of ''Fact.'' Plantard, it eventually came out, was an inveterate rascal with a criminal record for fraud and affiliations with wartime anti-Semitic and right[/B]-wing groups. The actual Priory of Sion was a tiny, harmless group of like-minded friends formed in 1956.

Plantard's hoax was debunked by a series of (as yet untranslated) French books and a 1996 BBC documentary, but curiously enough, this set of shocking revelations hasn't proved as popular as the fantasia of ''Holy Blood, Holy Grail,'' or, for that matter, as ''The Da Vinci Code.'' The only thing more powerful than a worldwide conspiracy, it seems, is our desire to believe in one.

 

[celldog]

Stop bolding things... and saying "LOL" in capital letters just makes my opinion of you sink even lower. Thanks for the kind words.

Your opinion of me, matters not. LOL

 

[celldog]

Now why don't you go study....