Dan Didio on Dan Didio

Doc Destruction said:
That's not true. Not one bit. I didn't complain about ANY of the changes brought about by Secret WarS, Crisis 1, IC, Identity Crisis, AoA or even the company crossovers. I LOVED Amalgam and JLA/Avengers.

Lately Marvel has just been 1) All about the shock. 2) Only interested in what the WRITERS want. and 3) Very uncaring of continuity and characterization.


All things you can attribute to DC as well. I just want you to admit that DC is just as bad as marvel, thats all I want from you, and then become an equal opportunity basher like me.
 
But, it's really not these days. Five years ago I would have been arguing the EXACT opposite. Read some of my initial posts when I first got here.
 
Fine, all I want is equal hating. All I see is marvel does this, Marvel does that, and then blind praise for DC while all their problems are ignored. You wanna argue that marvel has bigger problems, fine. But dont ignore the ones DC are doing and make them look like theyre perfect. Those 3 things ypu pointed out can easily be attributed to DC as well. Just be aware of that.
 
1) The Shock. Yes, they use the shock. It is not ALL ABOUT the shock. Read any Marvel solicitation for the past year. AN EVENT THAT WILL CHANGE (so and so)'S LIFE FOREVER!!!

2) What the writers want. The writers want to write DAMN good stories (minus the clunkers we've gotten since IC), and a return to the things that make DC's characters great. This will happen once Marvel pulls their head out, mark my words.

3) Ummmm, DC plans their major stories out 2 years in advance. HoM was pulled out of Bendis' rear end.

I hardly ignore DC's problems. I call em like I see em, and right now DC doesn't HAVE that many problems. The ones they do have seem to be getting fixed, like Nightwing. At least Marvel finally got it into their heads that half of the X-Books had CRAPPY writers. That only took 2 years.
 
I see theres no reasoning with you. Ok Doc, thats fine.
 
Darthphere said:
All things you can attribute to DC as well. I just want you to admit that DC is just as bad as marvel, thats all I want from you, and then become an equal opportunity basher like me.

not all three apply and if they do its to a lesser degree. what was shocking about IC? the death of superboy? i saw that coming a mile away and there was nothing shocking about it. nightwing i could've seen as shocking but i think DC would've handled better then marvel has been doing. unmasking spidey was shock value! and what were the reasons? some ****ing hero registration act? lame. and they handled him poorly in characterization on Purpose!!! while nigtwings and barts poor characterization is just plain'ol bad writing.

so no DC isnt as bad as marvel and if they are, marvel is doing one great job at making them look like angels.
 
And here comes DC's #1 fanboy. Hey guys remember when GAH, formerly Dr. Fear, formerly some other name was a ****ing Marvel Zombie, then he jumped on the DC bandwagon and never looked back, ahh those were the days.
 
Darthphere said:
Yes, Didio does make editorial decisions youre right. Like the decision to put Bruce Jones on Nightwing in the first place. The decision to put two failed tv writers on a big book like The Flash. The switcheroo of killing Superboy instead of Nightwing because he doesnt know his fanbase. Shall I go on?
I just don't see what a writer being less than exemplary has anything at all to do with the executive editor of the company. Unless Didio was forcing Jones at gunpoint to make Jason Todd into a tentacle rape monster, the only fault you can find in him is deciding to hire Jones in the first place. Which is hardly logical; how was he supposed to know that Jones was going to turn Jason Todd into a tentacle rape monster?

Didio was originally going to kill off Nightwing, but then looked at the fanbase and decided that it was a bad decision, and decided to kill Superboy instead -- I actually got the impression that they were going to kill off both of them originally -- which honestly was a much better narrative decision. What's the problem? He saw that he had made a mistake in judgment, admitted as much in numerous statements, and decided to fix it and is still trying to fix it. When was the last time you heard Quesada admit that he make any kind of narrative mistake, even a trivial one?

DC and Didio make a lot of mistakes and is still making a lot of them (Picoult on Wonder Woman = PURE UNSPEAKABLE SHT) but to compare him to Joe Quesada? The brain behind such crowning glories as the Xorneto clusterfrack and Sins Past? At least when Didio screws up big you can blame it on him hiring the wrong writers as the writers seem to be making all the big decisions at DC. What's Quesada's excuse? He's incredibly hands-on in the writing process and almost all of the big, controversial decisions that have been made in Marvel recently have come directly from his noggin.
 
BrianWilly said:
I just don't see what a writer being less than exemplary has anything at all to do with the executive editor of the company. Unless Didio was forcing Jones at gunpoint to make Jason Todd into a tentacle rape monster, the only fault you can find in him is deciding to hire Jones in the first place. Which is hardly logical; how was he supposed to know that Jones was going to turn Jason Todd into a tentacle rape monster?

Didio was originally going to kill off Nightwing, but then looked at the fanbase and decided that it was a bad decision, and decided to kill Superboy instead -- I actually got the impression that they were going to kill off both of them originally -- which honestly was a much better narrative decision. What's the problem? He saw that he had made a mistake in judgment, admitted as much in numerous statements, and decided to fix it and is still trying to fix it. When was the last time you heard Quesada admit that he make any kind of narrative mistake, even a trivial one?

DC and Didio make a lot of mistakes and is still making a lot of them (Picoult on Wonder Woman = PURE UNSPEAKABLE SHT) but to compare him to Joe Quesada? The brain behind such crowning glories as the Xorneto clusterfrack and Sins Past? At least when Didio screws up big you can blame it on him hiring the wrong writers as the writers seem to be making all the big decisions at DC. What's Quesada's excuse? He's incredibly hands-on in the writing process and almost all of the big, controversial decisions that have been made in Marvel recently have come directly from his noggin.


I see what youre saying, all in all ill keep it simple. I dont like neither guy right now. Ill admit, Quesada makes a lot worse decisions than Didio (that we know of) id argue Marvel is a lot more high profile therefore there problems are highlighted. All I want is for their be equal blame for bad things. Marvel gets *****ed at for hiring writers outside the medium, DC doesnt (this excludes Bilson and Demeo) Marvel kills someone off, all hell breaks loose, DC does it, "wow that was a great death" (mostly talking about the C-List Titans and a few others. If youre going to complain about one company doing something you dont like, and the praise the other for doing the same thing, im going to call you out on that. Thats all im saying.
 
In terms of the death thing...the STORIES were better written. Sue's death - very noir. Beetle's death was a heroes death. Superboy went down fighting TWO brutal battles. The C-List Titans' deaths were the culmination of a slowly degenerating SBP.

Vision showed up out of nowhere, said I'm sorry and blew Ant-Man and himself to hades. Hawkeye? Right. Nice death.

When DC screws up, I'll be glad to point it out. ASBatman is absolute trash. Flash is meh, and Nightwing is pond scum. Those are BOOK flaws. Marvel has PHILOSOPHY flaws.
 
Doc Destruction said:
In terms of the death thing...the STORIES were better written. Sue's death - very noir. Beetle's death was a heroes death. Superboy went down fighting TWO brutal battles. The C-List Titans' deaths were the culmination of a slowly degenerating SBP.

Vision showed up out of nowhere, said I'm sorry and blew Ant-Man and himself to hades. Hawkeye? Right. Nice death.

When DC screws up, I'll be glad to point it out. ASBatman is absolute trash. Flash is meh, and Nightwing is pond scum. Those are BOOK flaws. Marvel has PHILOSOPHY flaws.


Oh I compltetly agree with that, Marvel needs to get their heads out of their asses and learn a thing or two from heinberg and Slott, their good writers.
 
Good call. Slott is EXACTLY the kind of writer they need right now. Someone clever enough to move forward while having a VERY clear understanding of the road behind them in continuity.
 
Doc Destruction said:
Good call. Slott is EXACTLY the kind of writer they need right now. Someone clever enough to move forward while having a VERY clear understanding of the road behind them in continuity.


Thoug, Slott is supposedly going to be on a big book soon. Lets hope it does well.
 
I'm DYING to know what it is. I was hoping for the Mighty Avengers, but we see where that went.
 
Im hoping Bendis is only launching the book.
 

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