Daredevil Villain Sequel

[The Overlord]

If they make a sequel to the Daredevil film, who should be the villain?

 

[The Question]

I'd say The Owl, Typhoid Mary, Mr. Fear, and The Enforces, plus some nameless mobsters, in a storyline about a gang war that errupts because of Fisk's arrest.

 

[The Overlord]

I'd say The Owl, Typhoid Mary, Mr. Fear, and The Enforces, plus some nameless mobsters, in a storyline about a gang war that errupts because of Fisk's arrest.

That seems a bit crowded.

 

[The Question]

That seems a bit crowded.

I don't see why. There's doesn't have to be one, singular threat that Matt has to deal with. Some of the more interesting Daredevil stories are when ten different things are going wrong at once.

 

[nocomics]

I don't see why. There's doesn't have to be one, singular threat that Matt has to deal with. Some of the more interesting Daredevil stories are when ten different things are going wrong at once.

Easy,look at the othe comic book movies that throw in multiple villains,they sux(.) Or there becomes so many side stories it detracts from haveing any continuity in the movie...Lets face it DD isn't exactly the cream of the crop when it comes to comic movies. I hope they make another one,but I seriously doubt they ever will..

 

[Green Goblin 1964]

No sequel....that takes care of the problem...

JK I choose other...

 

[The Geek Vault]

Purple man, I'd say have him take over as the "New Kingpin" he gets bullseye and elektra working for him through his powers and plays off Elektra as the new Kingpin while he's pulling the strings, as for his purple complection, i'd say make his veins purple and the skin tinted but not like Violet Bearegarde purple.

 

[ANTOINE X]

I want see kingpin & bullseye again but with his costume.

 

[The Overlord]

I don't see why. There's doesn't have to be one, singular threat that Matt has to deal with. Some of the more interesting Daredevil stories are when ten different things are going wrong at once.

Look at Spider-Man 3, people complained when 3 villains were fighting for the spot light, how is a flim supposed to develop as many villains as you suggest without seeming overcrowded? What works in the comics doesn't always work on screen.

I want see kingpin & bullseye again but with his costume.

How would that not be a rehash of the first film?

 

[The Question]

Look at Spider-Man 3, people complained when 3 villains were fighting for the spot light, how is a flim supposed to develop as many villains as you suggest without seeming overcrowded? What works in the comics doesn't always work on screen.

I didn't mind the multiple villains in Spider-Man 3. Besides, not everyone I mentioned has to have a major role. The Owl, Mr. Fear, and maybe a third mobster like Hammer Head would be the main villains. Typhoid Mary and the Enforcers would be what they are: henchmen. I really don't see a problem.

 

[The Overlord]

I didn't mind the multiple villains in Spider-Man 3. Besides, not everyone I mentioned has to have a major role. The Owl, Mr. Fear, and maybe a third mobster like Hammer Head would be the main villains. Typhoid Mary and the Enforcers would be what they are: henchmen. I really don't see a problem.

I think you are in the vast minority there. Most people do not like too many villains, as seen by the complaints about Spidey 3. There they only had 3 villains and people complained that there wasn't enough spot light for all the villains. Here you have 3 major villains and a bunch of secondary villains, how will they get proper development if they are fighting for the spot light? Also what's the point of using Mary if she is just going to be cannon fodder?

 

[The Question]

I think you are in the vast minority there. Most people do not like too many villains, as seen by the complaints about Spidey 3. There they only had 3 villains and people complained that there wasn't enough spot light for all the villains. Here you have 3 major villains and a bunch of secondary villains, how will they get proper development if they are fighting for the spot light? Also what's the point of using Mary if she is just going to be cannon fodder?

Not every villain needs major cvharacter developement. Look at Boba Fett. He was awesome because we didn't know anything about him. They don't all have to fight for the spotlight.

 

[Spider–Man]

I'd say The Owl, Typhoid Mary, Mr. Fear, and The Enforces, plus some nameless mobsters, in a storyline about a gang war that errupts because of Fisk's arrest.

i like it!

 

[The Overlord]

Not every villain needs major cvharacter developement. Look at Boba Fett. He was awesome because we didn't know anything about him. They don't all have to fight for the spotlight.

Venom didn't show up till the end of Spidey 3 and people still thought there were too many villains in that film. I mean the main villains will still need to have the spot light, so that is least 3 villains fighting for the stop light, not including the henchmen. Did you not hear the complaints made about Spidey 3?

 

[Danger Mouse]

The X-Men movies had a bunch of supervillains, each prominent in their own right in the comicverse. I think it turned out well. Whatever complaints the movies had, they weren't about having too many superpowered villains.

 

[The Question]

Venom didn't show up till the end of Spidey 3 and people still thought there were too many villains in that film. I mean the main villains will still need to have the spot light, so that is least 3 villains fighting for the stop light, not including the henchmen. Did you not hear the complaints made about Spidey 3?

I didn't necessairily agree with the complaints. Besides, the point would be to do the whole multiple villains thing better. I still don't see a problem. You have The Owl, Hammerhead, and Mr. Fear as the main villains. The Owl and Hammerhead are the two big crime bosses vying for Fisk's territory. Mr. Fear is the new player working from the shadows to bring both of them down. The Enforcers, who don't need massive atention, work for Hammerhead, and The Owl brings in Typhoid Mary, who is described as a mentally unbalanced psychic with an obsession and possible history with Daredevil. At some point, probably during some big, climactic gang shoot out, Mary betrays The Owl and is revealed to now be working for Mr. Fear. Have Matt appearing during all of that trying to quell the violence from the gang war and keep innocent people from getting hurt in the crossfire, taking on Hammerhead and Typhoid Mary near the end of the film, with the very either having Mr. Fear hiring The Enforcers and becoming the Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen, or Daredevil beating Mr. Fear and declaring himself Kingpin.

 

[The Overlord]

I didn't necessairily agree with the complaints. Besides, the point would be to do the whole multiple villains thing better. I still don't see a problem. You have The Owl, Hammerhead, and Mr. Fear as the main villains. The Owl and Hammerhead are the two big crime bosses vying for Fisk's territory. Mr. Fear is the new player working from the shadows to bring both of them down. The Enforcers, who don't need massive atention, work for Hammerhead, and The Owl brings in Typhoid Mary, who is described as a mentally unbalanced psychic with an obsession and possible history with Daredevil. At some point, probably during some big, climactic gang shoot out, Mary betrays The Owl and is revealed to now be working for Mr. Fear. Have Matt appearing during all of that trying to quell the violence from the gang war and keep innocent people from getting hurt in the crossfire, taking on Hammerhead and Typhoid Mary near the end of the film, with the very either having Mr. Fear hiring The Enforcers and becoming the Kingpin of Hell's Kitchen, or Daredevil beating Mr. Fear and declaring himself Kingpin.

Yeah, well most people thought those complaints were valid, even people who liked the movie. The plot you described is way too busy and well *you* may not see a problem, a lot of people would be unhappy because there are too many villains vyinmg for too little screen time. Just because *you* don't see a problem, doesn't mean a problem doesn't exist. It all goes back to KISS (keep it simple stupid), if you too many villains with too many sub plots you lose the audience. Again you seem to be missing a valid point in most of your threads, just because something works in the comics doesn't mean it works it works on the silver screen. DD fighting many threats at once works in a ongoing comic series, but it doesn't work on screen.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

how about Bushwacker (now that would be insane)
a crazy scar faced hitman with a gun for an arm

partly joking on suggesting this character

as for casting, i wonder, if Brian Haley is still (or could get) in shape for the role (though, he's probably to old now, idk?)

 

[bullets]

they should reboot daredevil

 

[The Question]

Yeah, well most people thought those complaints were valid, even people who liked the movie. The plot you described is way too busy and well *you* may not see a problem, a lot of people would be unhappy because there are too many villains vyinmg for too little screen time. Just because *you* don't see a problem, doesn't mean a problem doesn't exist. It all goes back to KISS (keep it simple stupid), if you too many villains with too many sub plots you lose the audience. Again you seem to be missing a valid point in most of your threads, just because something works in the comics doesn't mean it works it works on the silver screen. DD fighting many threats at once works in a ongoing comic series, but it doesn't work on screen.

I don't see why not. It's all about exicution and how well the writer balances all of the characters. And yes, the plot I suggested is a tad busy. But that's because it's more of a plot than simply "Villain shows up, starts master plan, kidnaps heroe's girlfriend, they fight." Maybe the next Daredevil film should break away from certain cliche's to stand out, and have a slightly more complex plot.

 

[SenseiofCheese]

The hate Daredevil gets really makes one sad, when one has seen the great director's cut.
As for a villain for the sequel (that will never happen), I'd have Bullseye come back, and have him team up with Typhoid Mary or Mr. Fear.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Mysterio dammit... kevin smiths story was AMAZING....

 

[Argyle of Sock]

Please not Bullseye unless the character is completely reworked. Colin Farrell makes me want to gouge my eyes out.

 

[The Overlord]

I don't see why not. It's all about exicution and how well the writer balances all of the characters. And yes, the plot I suggested is a tad busy. But that's because it's more of a plot than simply "Villain shows up, starts master plan, kidnaps heroe's girlfriend, they fight." Maybe the next Daredevil film should break away from certain cliche's to stand out, and have a slightly more complex plot.

If Spidey 3 taught us anything, it is too many sub plots make fans and reiwers unhappy. You may not like it, but too many villains and too many sub plots is why Spidey 3 was far less touted by the critics then say Spidey 2. Half the reviews were negative and every negative review said "too many villains, too many sub plots". Do you know more about movies then these film critics?

 

[ANTOINE X]

Look at Spider-Man 3, people complained when 3 villains were fighting for the spot light, how is a flim supposed to develop as many villains as you suggest without seeming overcrowded? What works in the comics doesn't always work on screen.



How would that not be a rehash of the first film?

I m not saying that he has to be alone we can have other villains, like you said in Spider man they had 3 villains a t same time.