David Goyer hired to write Man of Steel

[Project862006]

So would we prefer a more fantasy driven director or a serious director but you may fear we could get what singer did all over again?

 

[Michael Corleone]

*fingers crossed* for Jonah Nolan to direct.

Certainly would be a great choice.

 

[GL's Light]

Jonah or Wally...

If it's Wally the Variety headline should be "Superman gets Pfisted".

 

[Michael Corleone]

So would we prefer a more fantasy driven director or a serious director but you may fear we could get what singer did all over again?

It's going to be someone the studio and producers can control. I wouldn't look for a repeat of someone like Singer or a big name fantasy director.

 

[Sam]

I just got back online after 3 days and saw this news. So:

- Goyer to write new Superman movie
- It is close to MAN OF STEEL minisseries by Byrne
- NOT a origin, but it is a reboot
- Set up a huge Kryptonian mythology

Is that all true? How they going to reboot without an origin? I dont buy it fully. Its probably not a entire origin movie, but will of course touch on aspects of origins, otherwise how to make this movie different from Donner's and introduce an Kryptonian mythology?

 

[Michael Corleone]

I just got back online after 3 days and saw this news. So:

- Goyer to write new Superman movie
- It is close to MAN OF STEEL minisseries by Byrne
- NOT a origin, but it is a reboot
- Set up a huge Kryptonian mythology

Is that all true? How they going to reboot without an origin? I dont buy it fully. Its probably not a entire origin movie, but will of course touch on aspects of origins, otherwise how to make this movie different from Donner's and introduce an Kryptonian mythology?

It is possible to restart the franchise and not do an origin. Everyone on the planet knows the origin, and just because they say it won't be an origin story doesn't mean you'll never know anything about the back story. Frankly the last thing this franchise needs is another film that deals with the origin. It takes way too much time away from the rest of the story.

 

[Project862006]

did'nt the rights deal mess up the possibility of an origin?

 

[Alonsovich]

If it's Wally the Variety headline should be "Superman gets Pfisted".

t:t:t:

 

[Alonsovich]

I just got back online after 3 days and saw this news. So:

- Goyer to write new Superman movie
- It is close to MAN OF STEEL minisseries by Byrne
- NOT a origin, but it is a reboot
- Set up a huge Kryptonian mythology

Is that all true? How they going to reboot without an origin? I dont buy it fully. Its probably not a entire origin movie, but will of course touch on aspects of origins, otherwise how to make this movie different from Donner's and introduce an Kryptonian mythology?

WB doesn't own the origin rights at the moment...

 

[Michael Corleone]

WB doesn't own the origin rights at the moment...

It's all very complicated. They own some things but not others. I think this is one reason why they're referencing Byrne's Man of Steel.

 

[Dark Knight]

Gawd I can't stand that overrated Tina Fey......Ugh!

 

[Webhead2006]

isnt it just parts of krypton/jorel-lara names and stuff like that. I believe they still have smallville life rights? Sure i want to see a full on origin for reboot. But i would be fine if it just ends up being we get some flashs of sv and pre metropolis life with the film starting out with him first coming to the city. Then krypton stuff gets allued to and what ever they can do with krypton add that in. Though things could probably change if wb pays the heirs to use the krypton stuff, or if finally all the legal stuff can get settled out. I would perfer it would be settled prior to any filming, But if it cant happen for this first film. Hopefully for sequel. Since a sequel would probably be out after the whole 2013 deal with the copyright.

 

[Team Andino]

The Superman nerd in me has been sleeping for years waiting for news like this. I'm really excited to see things getting pushed further. So far so good lets hope things stay on course

 

[Sam]

It is possible to restart the franchise and not do an origin.

Of course, if u want to do it in the wrong way.

The idea of reboot is do something different from previous franchise. If u dont show ppl that this is different since the first minute, and dont sell it as an actual reboot, ppl wont get it.

Everyone on the planet knows the origin, and just because they say it won't be an origin story doesn't mean you'll never know anything about the back story. Frankly the last thing this franchise needs is another film that deals with the origin. It takes way too much time away from the rest of the story.

Another film that deals with the origin? U are saying like Superman has dozens of movies with origin. There is ONLY ONE, made over 30 YEARS AGO.

U are putting to much faith on general audience saying "everyone on the planet knows the origin". This is not right.

What everyone knows (i assume) is that Superman came from another planet sent by his father on a rocket minutes before his planet explodes. Thats all.

How was that planet? Why it exploded? Why only Superman suvives? Where Superman powers come from? Why he does what he does?

There is several aspects that can be explores an make everybody really knows Superman and relates to him that simply doesnt exist today.

Like i said before, this movie maybe is not an origin movie in traditional way, but of couse will touch and tell origin pieces and bits.

Otherwise WB will miss another great opportunite, and i dont believe they going to make the same mistake again.

 

[Webhead2006]

oh totally sam i hope we get some stuff at least. and expand more later bearing when ever the legal stuff is finished.

 

[Sam]

WB doesn't own the origin rights at the moment...

An agreement with Siegel and Shuster families solves this faster than a speeding butllet.

Siegel & Shuster own some stuffs, WB owns others.

Siegel and Shuster wont be able to do Superman without WB, they know it. So, not making an agreement is just dumb from both sides.

 

[GL's Light]

Another film that deals with the origin? U are saying like Superman has dozens of movies with origin. There is ONLY ONE, made over 30 YEARS AGO.

There have been variations of the story of Superman and/or Clark Kent, though, on television - in live action and animated form - pretty much continuously for the last 20 years, and those TV shows have gone over the origin, too.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Of course, if u want to do it in the wrong way.

The idea of reboot is do something different from previous franchise. If u dont show ppl that this is different since the first minute, and dont sell it as an actual reboot, ppl wont get it.



Another film that deals with the origin? U are saying like Superman has dozens of movies with origin. There is ONLY ONE, made over 30 YEARS AGO.

U are putting to much faith on general audience saying "everyone on the planet knows the origin". This is not right.

What everyone knows (i assume) is that Superman came from another planet sent by his father on a rocket minutes before his planet explodes. Thats all.

How was that planet? Why it exploded? Why only Superman suvives? Where Superman powers come from? Why he does what he does?

There is several aspects that can be explores an make everybody really knows Superman and relates to him that simply doesnt exist today.

Like i said before, this movie maybe is not an origin movie in traditional way, but of couse will touch and tell origin pieces and bits.

Otherwise WB will miss another great opportunite, and i dont believe they going to make the same mistake again.

Calm down, and it's only the wrong way from your point of view not everyone's. This about opinion here, not trying to force your view. Like it's been stated, aspects of the origin are off limits right now and therefore will not be explored.

It's possible to do everything you said without an origin story. Everyone knows the basics my friend. They know pretty much everything up to when he appears in metropolis. What is missing is the specifics and not all of that can be told. No one complained about Returns not having an origin. People complained about the subject matter of the story and the lack of action. I'm sorry, but people aren't stupid. They know Superman and to bog down a newly reborn franchise with yet another retelling of the same classic story is a waste of story in my opinion.

As for origin being only told once 30 years ago, I guess you'r not counting the multiple animated productions, Comic retcons, three television shows and let's not ignore the fact that there is an origin story being told currently on Smallville. Now the quality of that show may be debated, but it is indeed a current origin story being told.

 

[SuperDaniel]

You know what? I think the movie should start with Superman`s first appearance and then take it from there. START WITH A BANG!!!

Then as the story progresses, we see the character motivations and etc. Show the implications of a god flying around helping people, the goverment and all, the changes in our lives, show why Clark decided to dedicate his life to others, etc. When the world is about to accept aliens and all, Brainiac arrives through Luthor and everything gets messed up.

No origin. Just a year one movie.

 

[Michael Corleone]

There have been variations of the story of Superman and/or Clark Kent, though, on television - in live action and animated form - pretty much continuously for the last 20 years, and those TV shows have gone over the origin, too.

Thank you.

 

[Michael Corleone]

You know what? I think the movie should start with Superman`s first appearance and then take it from there. START WITH A BANG!!!

Then as the story progresses, we see the character motivations and etc. Show the implications of a god flying around helping people, the goverment and all, the changes in our lives, show why Clark decided to dedicate his life to others, etc. When the world is about to accept aliens and all, Brainiac arrives through Luthor and everything gets messed up.

No origin. Just a year one movie.

I think that's a fair assumption on some level. Especially if they tend to follow the modern incarnation.

 

[Michael Corleone]

An agreement with Siegel and Shuster families solves this faster than a speeding butllet.

Siegel & Shuster own some stuffs, WB owns others.

Siegel and Shuster wont be able to do Superman without WB, they know it. So, not making an agreement is just dumb from both sides.

That's what all of the court dealings have been about. Make no mistake the families aren't going elsewhere. Legally they can't just say hey let's make a deal at this point because Warner Brothers isn't going to do that.

 

[Webhead2006]

yea i said it a few times i would at least like the film to start up with clark's first day at the planet/first public save. OR say clark is around the city for a bit and at the planet but hasnt gone public as superman just yet. As i said i would just be mad if there is no krypton/sv stuff since we lose stuff and all that. But totally hopefully the legal stuff could be settled before this film ever gets to production stage so then origin stuff could be used. But we have no clue how the court battles could turn out.

 

[Sam]

Calm down

I am calm

As for origin being only told once 30 years ago, I guess you'r not counting the multiple animated productions, Comic retcons, three television shows and let's not ignore the fact that there is an origin story being told currently on Smallville. Now the quality of that show may be debated, but it is indeed a current origin story being told.

Of course im not counting TV shows or comics. We are talking about movies. Imagine someone askign something about Superman and the answer is "watch 1990 carton series, season one, episede 2, year 1996". Weirsd.

Each one of those are a version on its own, cant be used to explan something from a different media.

And Smallville is not a good exemple either. The guy has 30 years, he knows every friend, heroes and enemy from mythology and not even has the costume.

Movie audience around the world can have what? 200 million ppl?

Smallville audience is.. what? 6 million?

Origin able creator, besides explain several things, introduce other several ideas. Its freedom for current and future stories.

But, since they are using Byrne minisseries as basis (an origin story), i believe they will have it in some degree.

 

[Michael Corleone]

I am calm



Of course im not counting TV shows or comics. We are talking about movies. Imagine someone askign something about Superman and the answer is "watch 1990 carton series, season one, episede 2, year 1996". Weirsd.

Each one of those are a version on its own, cant be used to explan something from a different media.

And Smallville is not a good exemple either. The guy has 30 years, he knows every friend, heroes and enemy from mythology and not even has the costume.

Movie audience around the world can have what? 200 million ppl?

Smallville audience is.. what? 6 million?

Origin able creator, besides explain several things, introduce other several ideas. Its freedom for current and future stories.

But, since they are using Byrne minisseries as basis (and origin story), i believe they will have it in some degree.

Audiences don't differentiate between mediums. Doesn't matter if it's a good example or not. It may not be the origin you want, but it IS an origin. I don't like it either but it's very recognizable right now especially with younger audiences even if they don't watch the show. They don't have to watch the show to know of it's existence and overall story. The same goes for the animated material. People view Superman as Superman, not Superman on TV, Superman in the Comics and Superman animation. We might, but they won't. Superman is Superman.