David Goyer hired to write Man of Steel

[Crook]

May would be suicide for Superman. It wouldnt open high enough to survive the competition, and we'd have another solid gross but technically bomb based on budget type of take.

I have very high doubts a Superman film that strikes on all cylinders would bomb in any timeframe typical of blockbusters. Serious, serious doubts.

 

[Showtime]

Certainly hasn't stopped Marvel. They've got Thor opening and Captain America closing the summer of 2011. Hell and before that, Spider-Man 4 was supposed to be in there too.

word up

May would be suicide for Superman. It wouldnt open high enough to survive the competition, and we'd have another solid gross but technically bomb based on budget type of take. It could open to 90 million and still just 225ish on a 200 million budget.

Superman doesnt have the pull to open in May right now, espec. not May 2012.

Pump the brakes. Putting it in May wouldn't be a disaster, if they even do it. You're like chicken little.

That sounds like it would work perfectly. Man today has been crazy!

But good.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

Superman doesnt have the pull to open in May right now, espec. not May 2012.

That's nonsense. Average Joe doesn't know who Thor is and yet that will be the tentpole to open summer 2011. The Star Trek franchise was toxic and certified dead. Yet Paramount put the reboot in the second weekend of May slot and went on to be a huge blockbuster.

 

[rocco2216]

So let me get this straight.

-Nolan's a producer (leaked on purpose)
-Hints the scripts, at least 1 draft, is done and W.B. is happy
-Said script is done, yet we weren't supposed to know it was even being written for a few weeks
-Actor's already being eyed

Yeah, I would bet a bundle there's already a director of some sort in place, and this thing is coming before Batman 3 (assuming thats summer 2012). Why? Because my guess is they'll want Nolan to be hands on with Superman. and he can't do 2 films at once. Assuming Batman is filming spring-fall 2011, with Nolan not available until summer 2012...that would mean, in order for Nolan to be "hands on", cameras have to roll (and essentially be DONE rolling) on Superman BEFORE Nolan begins filming Batman 3. Because:

-IF Nolan is to be hands on, and
-IF Nolan is to be shooting Batmans for most of 2011 and 2012, and
-IF W.B. needs cameras rolling by or in 2011 on Superman

Than Superman must be going into production before Batman 3, and because of appearent lawsuit rules, that puts Superman going into production in late 2010.

...Showtime?

Nolan can produce one film while he's directing another.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

It's early yet, but these are the it guys in young hollywood right now. When big roles come up they are on the table. It is what it is. That doesn't mean they are getting the role. Could be a complete unknown, or a 30 something character actor. I am just saying don't be surprised. Don't limit the choices though, they might search everywhere.

So that would mean guys like Cavill, Bomer, Cudmore, Padalecki, etc would have chance, right?

 

[hippie_hunter]

Yeah, it sounds like after Iron Man, Star Trek, and Avatar, May and December are the new blockbuster months to go along with the Summer.

 

[Showtime]

So that would mean guys like Cavill, Bomer, Cudmore, Padalecki, etc would have chance, right?

I don't remember saying Cudmore or Padalecki didn't have a chance. :Insert Stupid Smiley Face:

 

[Van Petrol]

Sounds like things are going to start snowballin' from here on in.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I don't remember saying Cudmore or Padalecki didn't have a chance. :Insert Stupid Smiley Face:

Oh great. You mention the 2 I kinda like over the 2 I really like. t:

 

[hippie_hunter]

If a script has already been written, producers in line, and a director in mind, what are the chances of a Winter 2011 release instead of a Summer/Winter 2012 release?

 

[Showtime]

Winter 2011? That sounds like a tall order.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

I think WB already has their big Christmas 2011 tentpole, bud. The Sherlock Holmes sequel.

 

[Excel]

I have very high doubts a Superman film that strikes on all cylinders would bomb in any timeframe typical of blockbusters. Serious, serious doubts.

Too many factors. The liklihood of a Superman film striking on all cylinders is slim, but the bigger problem with a May opening is it would struggle to gain buzz. IF May 2012 goes as scheduled... Avengers, starring the established and popular cinematic hero IRON MAN would steal most of the buzz. Opening it on Memorial day would ensure zero longevity, even if its 4 day topped 100 million, it would still struggle to 230's unless it was just really, really awesome. Say whatever you want, Superman is not as popular among moviegoers as those guys, if he was Superman Returns would have made more money opening weekend.

My guess is Superman is currently slotted for December 2011. Now, should the Avenger's be pushed back, I could envision a Star Trek like move from December to May, with Superman taking the traditional superhero weekend of Summer, and opening the 1st weekend of May.

But I do not think many of you understand just how much help Superman is going to need to be a big hit. This is not Spider-man or Iron Man. Its not a fresh property. If they do not want another Batman Begins/Superman Returns type of run, then they need do something differently than what they did with those films.

I do not see W.B. viewing this the way they did Batman, whereas average returns are ok because they know the sequel wil bring bucks, and theyll feel this way because Superman Returns already did that. I think W.B. will go balls to wall with this one to make sure they earn some coin NOW rather than later.

The ONLY way to ensure a real healthy gross is a December opening. Otherwise, it will just get dwarfed among more high profile films like Superman Returns and HULK 08 did.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah, it sounds like after Iron Man, Star Trek, and Avatar, May and December are the new blockbuster months to go along with the Summer.

There's nothing new about those release dates. The Spider-Man franchise shattered the opening weekend record twice by opening in early May. December has had the likes of Titanic and Lord of the Rings.

 

[Showtime]

Ok this isnt a box office or release thread. Let's not go there and bore my face off.

 

[Excel]

A look at release schedule would lead one to think winter 2011 is the logical date. I think WB would be very, very foolish to stick in summer 2012. If they do, we will be in for another Batman Begins type run at best.

Sherlock Holmes 2 will do well wherever W.B. want to put it, its the sequel to a popular film.

That's nonsense. Average Joe doesn't know who Thor is and yet that will be the tentpole to open summer 2011.

1st of all, if people think Thor is doing anything major at the box office, they will be sorely dissappointed when it opens.

2nd, Thor doesnt have 5 previous films, including one just a few years ago, that are still fresh in audiences mind's.

The Star Trek franchise was toxic and certified dead. Yet Paramount put the reboot in the second weekend of May slot and went on to be a huge blockbuster.

Trek is a good example, but the problem is it is pretty much the only example. The 2nd weekend of May is usually the kiss of death, anyone who follows the box office knows that. However, it needs to be noted that Star Trek had one of the greatest marketing campaigns, if not THE greatest, of last year. Superman is certainly capable of having one equal to it, but I do not think it is a good idea to bank on it. Remember, WB. stuck Superman Returns on July 4th thinking they'd have some summer action epic to market. Instead, they got a dark, retro looking, actionless film that was a hard sell. W.B. will not want to be in that position again.

Superman in May, I will concede, could certainly work (though not in 2012), but I just feel it would have much better chances of finding big success around Christmas.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Elmayimbe tends to do that. As far as I can tell no one seems to care as he comes from an ethnic background himself. I'm a pale white guy so I have no basis to judge, but he's always seemed to be an cool guy.

hehe im hispanic and I think its lame as hell but not offensive. Its more of a gimmick the way I see it.

The slave "massah" and token hispanic girl thing in his twitter though is just childish imo

 

[Showtime]

Hello? Anybody? Moderator talking. Take it to the box office boring thread. We just found out this news today and you already have Excel talking about where the movie should be released and why everybody else is wrong.

:Snoring:

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

For Christ's sake. Just...stop...

Or better yet listen to these wise words:

Ok this isnt a box office or release thread. Let's not go there and bore my face off.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Hello? Anybody? Moderator talking. Take it to the box office boring thread. We just found out this news today and you already have Excel talking about where the movie should be released and why everybody else is wrong.

:Snoring:

You know Excel, king of overreaction.

 

[Excel]

I began that post before you posted your warning Showtime, my b. Maybe if we had an idea who was directing we'd have other stuff to talk about

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

Has goyer ever written a story with superman in the comics? Id be interested to check that out

 

[Lighthouse]

Since we're asking whatever questions we feel like, I have some of my own for Show and FNJ.

Is it true Brandon Routh and Tom Welling have been cast as Superman Red and Superman Blue?

Is Christopher Nolan going to "godfather" the Plastic Man movie after Superman?

What are the odds of successfully navigating an asteroid field?

Do you guys pay royalties to Thomas F. Wilson?

 

[Showtime]

I dig Excel, he's an East Coast guy, but his penchant for turning every thread into box office and release date debates makes me sleepy.

 

[SpiderByte]

The next two years are going to be 500% kickass.