David S. Goyer attached in a new DC TV Show named ''Krypton

[Rowsdower!]

If it doesn't explode in the first episode, this show completely misses the point of Krypton.

 

[Boy Scout]

If it doesn't explode in the first episode, this show completely misses the point of Krypton.

I think exploring the cosmic side of the DCU would make for a fascinating series, and what better lens to view it through than Krypton's?

 

[SuperFerret]

Oa's. Or some other planet whose sole purpose isn't to die. I got more than enough Krypton in the 20 minute Star Wars Prequel we got before Man of Steel started, thanks.

 

[Boy Scout]

Oa's.

Meh. Could be interesting, but I would much rather explore Krypton. I've no interest in The Guardians outside of the GLC.

Or some other planet whose sole purpose is to die. I got more than enough Krypton in the 20 minute Star Wars Prequel we got before Man of Steel started, thanks.

Fair enough. However, I think this series will be able to offer something different, not least of all because they'll have more than twenty minutes to do so.

 

[Masone]

Meh. Could be interesting, but I would much rather explore Krypton. I've no interest in The Guardians outside of the GLC.

This. We've always got short and sweet scenes on Krypton in the movies and I've always wanted to see them explore that world more, even more so now after seeing MOS. I want to see some freaking dragons. I also want to know more about that skull codex thing, and also the whole natural birth to genetic engineering change.

Then there's the space expansion, which could open up the show to the larger DCU. I'm really excited to see where this goes.

You could get Michael Shannon back on a HBO show again.

Forgot about him. Let's hope we see Shannon, Crowe and Traue return.

 

[Boy Scout]

This. We've always got short and sweet scenes on Krypton in the movies and I've always wanted to see them explore that world more...

Then there's the space expansion, which could open up the show to the larger DCU. I'm really excited to see where this goes.

Same.

...even more so now after seeing MOS. I want to see some freaking dragons. I also want to know more about that skull codex thing, and also the whole natural birth to genetic engineering change...

...Forgot about him. Let's hope we see Shannon, Crowe and Traue return.

Pass. Despite Goyer's involvement, I don't want this series to be connected to the DCCU - at least not explicitly.

 

[Superchan]

I would really like to see a CGI animated series ala Star wars depicting MOS's interpretation of krypton but a live action show could work if done with care because krypton has a rich history filled with well known characters like zod, doomsday, brainiac, kara/supergirl and even the guardians.
Kevin J Anderson's 'last days of krypton' was a fantastic read and it proved to me that Krypton can carry it's own story weight without having to rely on the legend of superman.

 

[DrMylesOBoogie]

It's a better idea than that awful sounding Supergirl series. Kara should be in this show. I'd prefer it to be in the MOS filmverse with Crowe though. If this does happen and features a young Jor El, it's a pity McKenzie is playing Gordon. He'd have been a great fit for Jor El.

 

[Nightwing]

Surely this is going to be Smallville but on Krypton - Zod and Jor-El best buddies to begin with (Like Clark and Lex in Smallville)

A rivalry then opens up because of slight disagreements or secrets being kept ie Jor-El wont tell Zod of his plan to send Clark to earth (Clark wouldnt tell Lex about his secret in Smallville even though they were 'thumbs up' friends)

What would be cool to see though would be Jor-El and Lara-El visiting earth and other planets to scope out a nice haven for Clark to grow up (it could then show their difficulties on certain planets ie meeting future villains and fighting them that would in turn be Sueprmans villains) that could be a cool little twist like Gotham having Gordan interacting and helping all of Batmans villains.

Another little touch they could work on could be Kara being sent to earth before Clark and then going missing and Jor-El and others go off in search of her (obviosuly never finding her cos she winds up in a capsule on earth much later down the line)

There is potential and I think with the right people behind it (not Goyer) maybe Abrams or Del Toro to bring a strange actual alien side of Krypton and surrounding worlds to the screen, it could very well be a hit

 

[Mandon Knight]

It's a better idea than that awful sounding Supergirl series. Kara should be in this show. I'd prefer it to be in the MOS filmverse with Crowe though. If this does happen and features a young Jor El, it's a pity McKenzie is playing Gordon. He'd have been a great fit for Jor El.

I said years ago, when McKenzie was on the OC, he resembled a young Crowe, not as 'obvious' as he's got older but definately some likeness still there.

 

[Ceb-Man]

Would love to see a Krypton TV show with a young Jor-EL, Zod, Lara. Even other characters such as Zor-EL, Brainiac shrinking Kandor, Jax-Ur, etc.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

What's up with all the boring "before Batman, before Superman" crap? We already have Smallville (and that's not a verry good show either).

What's next? "Krypton: Genesis! See fictional, prehistoric animals kill and eat each other, seek shelter from the rain and give birth. It's Walking With Dinosaurs, but Supermanier!"

 

[The Guard]

What's with all the people who don't understand the potential of various mythologies?

Because we all know Jor-El led a boring life.

 

[Boy Scout]

As full of possibilities as this series is, I'd choose a straight up Superman show over it every time. We're in a Golden Age of superhero television, so I understand why one wouldn't want to waste time on prequels.

 

[SuperFerret]

It's not about understanding the potential, it's about understanding the purpose of certain story elements. Superman is a prime example of nurture over nature. Krypton is a tiny part of what makes Superman Superman, and people are losing sight of that, even on the official level (as Man of Steel displayed). Smallville, as terrible and clichéd as it was, has more reason to exist than a Krypton series because it's influence on the main character extends past "it existed at one point".

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

The next thing will probably be a western series about the Wayne family. Like Bonanza, only darker.

 

[Dr.]

Sci-fi shows like Deep Space Nine, Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica managed to successfully incorporate a fair degree of drama, political intrigue, etc. into their respective mythologies. I could see a Krypton series following a similar template.

 

[EyesSkyward]

Sci-fi shows like Deep Space Nine, Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica managed to successfully incorporate a fair degree of drama, political intrigue, etc. into their respective mythologies. I could see a Krypton series following a similar template.

I could too...but not with Goyer. I don't feel he has anything new or interesting to say to be honest.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

Deep Space Nine? This is Goyer, so it's more like Dick Splash Nine! Hohohoho!

 

[Dr.]

I could too...but not with Goyer. I don't feel he has anything new or interesting to say to be honest.

Well, Goyer’s involvement is something of a separate (though, arguably, legitimate) concern/issue.

But up to now, many of the skeptical posts in this thread appear to be at the conceptual level: How do you get enough material to sustain a TV series (that might, hypothetically, run for 5 or so years) from something that was a mere sci-fi pretext to establish an Earthbound superhero? (Note that in the original Action Comics #1, “Krypton” [it didn’t even have a name then] was relegated to a single panel.)

Seems to me, though, that there could be enough material for an extended series of Krypton stories - in the same way that those other TV series I mentioned fleshed out their respective mythologies. Just for instance: there’s the politics and melodrama of a young/ambitious Jor-El joining the Science Council (which might entail space exploration, diplomatic relations with alien races, miscellaneous action and adventure, etc.). Then, fairly early on, a courtship (and eventual marriage) with Lara would provide a romance quotient. (But more than that! Imo, Lara was always been short-changed by the mythos; a series could finally give her respect.) Next, various initial allies (but future villains - Zod, Brainiac, et. al.) would be introduced, providing additional fodder for political intrigue, coalitions and betrayal - think Aaron Sorkin transposed to a sci-fi setting. And if there was an inclination to set up the complete mythology, then include Zor-El - Jor’s loyal brother - for an ersatz “Jack and Bobby Kennedy” dynamic. Finally, eventually (though possibly not even in the first season)… comes the dramatic discovery that the planet Krypton is destined to perish - which would profoundly (and interestingly) refocus the extant storylines into a survivalist allegory. (Which factions accept the impending “climate change”? Which factions reject it? Would an evacuation be planned? And assuming limited means, who gets saved and who gets left behind? And who chooses? Etc.) So, again… it seems like there’s sufficient raw material for an extended series of stories.

But back to Goyer. I actually thought his “Krypton prologue” in MOS was generally good and fairly canonical. I.e., he didn’t radically revise the mythology. Even his notion of a bleak, dystopic, genetically engineered populace had already been explored in Byrne’s The Man of Steel books. In other words, sure, Goyer might screw up the execution of this possible series (as some think Bruno Heller has stumbled with Gotham). But I think his basic approach would be “traditionalist.”

 

[Superchan]

The next thing will probably be a western series about the Wayne family. Like Bonanza, only darker.

Believe it or not there was a comic in the late 90s called the 'kents', which was western focusing on the kent family's western ancestry.

Well, Goyer’s involvement is something of a separate (though, arguably, legitimate) concern/issue.

But up to now, many of the skeptical posts in this thread appear to be at the conceptual level: How do you get enough material to sustain a TV series (that might, hypothetically, run for 5 or so years) from something that was a mere sci-fi pretext to establish an Earthbound superhero? (Note that in the original Action Comics #1, “Krypton” [it didn’t even have a name then] was relegated to a single panel.)

Seems to me, though, that there could be enough material for an extended series of Krypton stories - in the same way that those other TV series I mentioned fleshed out their respective mythologies. Just for instance: there’s the politics and melodrama of a young/ambitious Jor-El joining the Science Council (which might entail space exploration, diplomatic relations with alien races, miscellaneous action and adventure, etc.). Then, fairly early on, a courtship (and eventual marriage) with Lara would provide a romance quotient. (But more than that! Imo, Lara was always been short-changed by the mythos; a series could finally give her respect.) Next, various initial allies (but future villains - Zod, Brainiac, et. al.) would be introduced, providing additional fodder for political intrigue, coalitions and betrayal - think Aaron Sorkin transposed to a sci-fi setting. And if there was an inclination to set up the complete mythology, then include Zor-El - Jor’s loyal brother - for an ersatz “Jack and Bobby Kennedy” dynamic. Finally, eventually (though possibly not even in the first season)… comes the dramatic discovery that the planet Krypton is destined to perish - which would profoundly (and interestingly) refocus the extant storylines into a survivalist allegory. (Which factions accept the impending “climate change”? Which factions reject it? Would an evacuation be planned? And assuming limited means, who gets saved and who gets left behind? And who chooses? Etc.) So, again… it seems like there’s sufficient raw material for an extended series of stories.

But back to Goyer. I actually thought his “Krypton prologue” in MOS was generally good and fairly canonical. I.e., he didn’t radically revise the mythology. Even his notion of a bleak, dystopic, genetically engineered populace had already been explored in Byrne’s The Man of Steel books. In other words, sure, Goyer might screw up the execution of this possible series (as some think Bruno Heller has stumbled with Gotham). But I think his basic approach would be “traditionalist.”

You're absolutely right, krypton has a very rich history and would make for a great show especially MOS's krypton, which I thought was handled very well. The characters of Jor-el and Zod were both very interesting and I would love to see them developed more.
Also if you guys and gals haven't read kevin J Anderson's "last days of krypton" novel then I suggest you check it out, its a wonderful read and it clearly had heavy influences on Goyer's krypton, especially the character of Zod who in the novel was a patriotic man who only wanted to protect Krypton initially but ended up being corrupted by his power.
The novel also featured an awesome appearance by Brainiac where he was depicted as a god like terrorist who attacked krypton (9/11 style) and easily bested the planet's defenses.
Finally the book threw in an appearance by the GL corps for a good measure.

Lara in the new 52 is quite interesting since she's the warrior not Jor-el and she's the one who protected both him and baby Kal.

A show like krypton has plenty going for it where it can appeal to the babylon 5, battlestar galactica crowd while also appealing to the comicbook crowd due to it's obvious superman connection (not to mention the possibility of characters like Brainiac, Doomsday, the GL Corps and even the thanegareans who were mentioned in the MOS prequel comic being included) .

 

[Eirrinn]

Yesh please ;3;

 

[Mikelus]

The Goyer bashing is getting so old... Like I said in another thread, James Gunn has written some crappy movies, if he would've been judged by that, then he would've never made GOTG. Should he get away before he ruins GOTG too?

And Goyer's show Da Vinci's Demons is doing fine, so the guy still has it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Da_Vinci's_Demons_episodes

In the end, nothing is guaranteed, many talented writers and directors have done mediocre movies/shows, it doesn't mean they can't do a good movie or series again.

 

[Keehar]

The Goyer bashing is getting so old... Like I said in another thread, James Gunn has written some crappy movies, if he would've been judged by that, then he would've never made GOTG. Should he get away before he ruins GOTG too?

And Goyer's show Da Vinci's Demons is doing fine, so the guy still has it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Da_Vinci's_Demons_episodes

In the end, nothing is guaranteed, many talented writers and directors have done mediocre movies/shows, it doesn't mean they can't do a good movie or series again.

Well put.

 

[luis4u]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/syfy-david-goyer-developing-superman-755060

Syfy is turning to David Goyer — the man behind The Man of Steel — to develop Superman origin story Krypton, The Hollywood Reporter has learned.
From Warner Horizon Television and DC Comics, Krypton takes place years before the Superman legend we know, when the House of El was shamed and ostracized. This drama, which is in development, follows the Man of Steel's grandfather as he brings hope and equality to Krypton, turning a planet in disarray into one worthy of giving b


Ian Goldberg (Once Upon a Time, FlashForward) will pen the script and exec produce alongside Goyer. The story was conceived by both Goyer and Goldberg.

The drama is in the same vein as Fox's DC Comics take Gotham, which tells the origin story of Jim Gordon (Ben McKenzie) and features a pre-teen Bruce Wayne (David Mazouz) before he became Batman.
Krypton also becomes the latest DC Comics-inspired project to land on a cable network. Turner-owned TNT is developing drama pilot Titans, a drama based on a group of superheroes-to-be based on characters from the DC universe including Dick Grayson, who emerges from the shadow of Batman to become Nightwing, the leader of a new band of heroes including Starfire, Raven and more as a "Junior Justice League" of sorts. Akiva Goldsman and Marc Haimes are writing the take for Warner Horizon Television and DC.
Other DC heroes already on the small screen include Batman in Fox's Jim Gordon origin story Gotham, The CW's The Flash and Arrow as well as NBC's Hellblazer take Constantine. The CW also has a version of DC's iZombie set for midseason, while Supergirl is currently testing leads at CBS for Arrow and Flash's Greg Berlanti and his No Ordinary Family alum Ali Adler in anticipation of a pilot and hopeful series order.
For Syfy, Krypton arrives as the cabler is making a massive push back to its Battlestar Galactica sci-fi roots with scripted originals including Dominion, Ascension, 12 Monkeys, Olympus, Z Nation, The Expanse, Childhood's End, Hunters, Dark Matterand 3001: The Final Odyssey.