DC 2: DC's not too distant future?

[Artistsean]

Should DC go the Spider-Girl rout and have a comic that takes place in the not too distant future?

It could show things readers sort of imagined would naturally happen, like Batman retired and replaced by Robin or Nightwing,

or something I have always wanted to see is Lois and Clark (after being married for some time) had a child and their child is now a teenager with super powers.

Who would be interested in that? Could DC do something like this without making it too much like Spider-Girl?

 

[Tropico]

What? Like Kingdom Come and The Kingdom? Already done.

 

[sethcohen]

id be interested in DC actually AGING supes and bats and letting the next generation at the mantle like GL, GA, Flash ect...

 

[Artistsean]

Like Kingdome Come, LIKE, but happier. No horrible future stuff.
I mean like Spider-Girl, hers is a comic that exists outside continuity so they can have Peter be retired and her be Spider-Girl without it effecting the regular universe.

It wouldn't be a post apocalyptic future, just a regular one like DC is usually. Its a NOT TOO DISTANT future.
It would give DC a chance to do things like age superman and batman, have batman retire and stuff like that without hurting the regular DC universe.
It would allow the next generation to step forward without it being a post apocalyptic story.

 

[sethcohen]

i understand that... but i dont want them to "cop out" and use and alternate-U story when they could just grow some juevos and do it...

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That'd be pretty cool. Especially if they did the smart thing like Marvel did with Spider-Girl and made it a future where both the old and new heroes are around simultaneously. I'd like to see:

- Clark (who hasn't aged much) and Conner sharing the Superman name
- Supergirl dead
- Ollie as the president of the US with Roy as his personal bodyguard and liason to Checkmate
- Connor, Mia, and Brick watching over Star City
- Tim as Batman
- Dick retired and Terry McGuinness in a modified Batman Beyond suit as Nightwing
- Babs as Oracle still
- Cassandra Cain as Batwoman
- The Birds of Prey and the League of Assassins merged into one crimefighting army, managed and instructed by Black Canary (martial arts) and Lady Blackhawk (weapons/piloting) and led in the field by Cassandra and Huntress
- Jason Todd and Kate Kane dead
- Diana, who's obviously not aged a day, as the goddess of truth with Cassie Sandsmark as her personal champion Wonder Woman
- Donna Troy continuing as the new Harbinger/Monitor, preserving the universe and making sure things keep running smoothly
- Guy Gardner and Soranik Natu's son as Sector 2814's new GL, paired with senior GL John Stewart
- Hal dead
- The Guardians off on sabbatical in another dimension or something, with Kilowog, Salakk, Guy Gardner, and Soranik Natu as their replacement Guardians under Kyle Rayner's leadership
- Wally's twins as the new Flashes, one protecting Central and one protecting Keystone
- Jay Garrick retired, with Bart filling his spot on the JSA
- The JSA, led by Stargirl, with Wildcat, Alan Scott, Sand, JJ Thunder, and a bunch of new heroes, with Dr. Mid-Nite as their in-house medic
- Checkmate, run by Mr. Terrific and Sasha Bordeaux, as a global peacekeeping force

Blah, I'm tapped out for now.

 

[Tropico]

Like Kingdome Come, LIKE, but happier. No horrible future stuff.
I mean like Spider-Girl, hers is a comic that exists outside continuity so they can have Peter be retired and her be Spider-Girl without it effecting the regular universe.

It wouldn't be a post apocalyptic future, just a regular one like DC is usually. Its a NOT TOO DISTANT future.
It would give DC a chance to do things like age superman and batman, have batman retire and stuff like that without hurting the regular DC universe.
It would allow the next generation to step forward without it being a post apocalyptic story.

Are you calling Kingdom Come a post-apocalyptic future? There's an explosion in Kansas and that makes it post-apocalyptic? DC really doesn't need a separate universe for the heroes to have legacies, it already happens. They can use the All-Star line for those alternate future stories you want. Make an All-Star Supergirl and have it be Clark's daughter instead of cousin. An All-Star Young Justice could also be made up of the children of the original.

BTW, if you want to see stories of the aged heroes you could go back and read the original All-Star Squadron and JSA comics to get that you're looking for.

 

[Artistsean]

id be interested in DC actually AGING supes and bats and letting the next generation at the mantle like GL, GA, Flash ect...

yeagh, but that would perminantly chane their top selling characters.
DC would probably be more willing to do something like Spier-Girl.

That'd be pretty cool. Especially if they did the smart thing like Marvel did with Spider-Girl and made it a future where both the old and new heroes are around simultaneously. I'd like to see:



- Clark (who hasn't aged much) and Conner sharing the Superman name

- Supergirl dead

- Ollie as the president of the US with Roy as his personal bodyguard and liason to Checkmate

- Connor, Mia, and Brick watching over Star City

- Tim as Batman

- Dick retired and Terry McGuinness in a modified Batman Beyond suit as Nightwing

- Babs as Oracle still

- Cassandra Cain as Batwoman

- The Birds of Prey and the League of Assassins merged into one crimefighting army, managed and instructed by Black Canary (martial arts) and Lady Blackhawk (weapons/piloting) and led in the field by Cassandra and Huntress

- Jason Todd and Kate Kane dead

- Diana, who's obviously not aged a day, as the goddess of truth with Cassie Sandsmark as her personal champion Wonder Woman

- Donna Troy continuing as the new Harbinger/Monitor, preserving the universe and making sure things keep running smoothly

- Guy Gardner and Soranik Natu's son as Sector 2814's new GL, paired with senior GL John Stewart

- Hal dead

- The Guardians off on sabbatical in another dimension or something, with Kilowog, Salakk, Guy Gardner, and Soranik Natu as their replacement Guardians under Kyle Rayner's leadership

- Wally's twins as the new Flashes, one protecting Central and one protecting Keystone

- Jay Garrick retired, with Bart filling his spot on the JSA

- The JSA, led by Stargirl, with Wildcat, Alan Scott, Sand, JJ Thunder, and a bunch of new heroes, with Dr. Mid-Nite as their in-house medic

- Checkmate, run by Mr. Terrific and Sasha Bordeaux, as a global peacekeeping force



Blah, I'm tapped out for now.

yeah, stuff like that. Heroes from now still alive just older with new superheroes comeing in like the son or duaghter of Superman, or a new Batman.
Maybe the JLA has retired to the JSA and there is a new JLA

But my main point is that its not a super dark future where something horrible happens that makes it that way, its what would most likely happen in DC's future.

 

[BrianWilly]

That could be a really cool idea if done right, I think.

To be honest, though, I think DC has been doing a fine job of aging their younger heroes even in their mainstream continuity. It's happening slowly but inevitably, and it's something that I'm proud of them -- not just glad, but proud -- for doing.

 

[Artistsean]

Me too, I know exactly what you mean.
I like the way they are aging their young heroes too.
The only thing I meant with this series idea is that they could do stuff in it that they couldn't do in regular continuity.
Things like retiring Bruce and making Tim Drake the new Batman (or new character), or have Clark and Lois be parents of a teenager with powers.

These type of things couldn't really be done in regular continuity.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That could be a really cool idea if done right, I think.

To be honest, though, I think DC has been doing a fine job of aging their younger heroes even in their mainstream continuity. It's happening slowly but inevitably, and it's something that I'm proud of them -- not just glad, but proud -- for doing.

They certainly age more than Marvel's characters have been allowed to. Honestly, though, do you ever really see the teen heroes of today growing up to take over the roles of their mentors in the future? I firmly believe that Tim Drake will never be Batman, or if he does end up becoming Batman, it won't be in our lifetimes. He's too much of a cultural icon, same with Superman. Wonder Woman might have some leeway, since most people would give you a blank stare if you said the name "Diana Prince" or "Princess Diana of Themyscira."

 

[BrianWilly]

I don't think I'd mind too much if the younger generation just stuck around without ever really claiming their adult titles. Obviously if they did then it'd be my wettest dream ever (

!!!!), but they could be respectable heroes in their own right and still be a necessary aspect of the DCU.

Who knows what might happen in the future, in forty or fifty years? If you asked someone from the 1950s if Robin would ever become Nightwing, they'd probably just laugh and then kick you.

 

[Artistsean]

Who knows what might happen in the future, in forty or fifty years? If you asked someone from the 1950s if Robin would ever become Nightwing, they'd probably just laugh and then kick you.

Thats what this series would be about, in about 20 years or more, these heroes are grown up and either took over for the older heroes or have taken on new identities, and other new young heroes have emerged.
Plus, if being a possible future, it wouldn't mess with the regular timeline.
At least thats what I am trying to say, I like the idea.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I don't think I'd mind too much if the younger generation just stuck around without ever really claiming their adult titles. Obviously if they did then it'd be my wettest dream ever (

!!!!), but they could be respectable heroes in their own right and still be a necessary aspect of the DCU.

Who knows what might happen in the future, in forty or fifty years? If you asked someone from the 1950s if Robin would ever become Nightwing, they'd probably just laugh and then kick you.

It just becomes tiresome for me. Why even bother introducing the teen heroes if they're just going to be stuck grinding the same axe for eternity? It's one thing to have middle-aged heroes going through the same motions for decades, but adolescents are about change by their very natures. What's their point if they can never hope to succeed their mentors?

 

[BrianWilly]

I agree, the idea situation for me would be that everyone gets to succeed everyone. But if I can't get that, then I'll settle for at having the youngins grow up at the very least.

Who knew from looking at Cassie Sandsmark, the nebbish and annoying John Byrne "Scrappy Doo"-character, that she'd turn into a fiery warrior babe at the forefront of some of the biggest DCU events? It's progress like that which makes the DCU exciting for me. If she turns into Wonder Woman someday, that'd be great. But she can fulfill my needs in other ways, too.

....

...uh.

Yes.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, I liked the current crop of teen heroes' development, too. Ironically, while Marvel was imploding in the '90s, DC was introducing great new concepts in the form of new teen heroes and developing them left and right. It's just a bit disheartening to realize that this is pretty much it; they're not going any further.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I thought DC did this. Didn't they call it One Year Later?

Oh, it was an event?

Well, how about a new series, and dub it in the not too future of One Week Later?

 

[Darthphere]

That'd be pretty cool. Especially if they did the smart thing like Marvel did with Spider-Girl and made it a future where both the old and new heroes are around simultaneously. I'd like to see:

- Clark (who hasn't aged much) and Conner sharing the Superman name
- Supergirl dead
- Ollie as the president of the US with Roy as his personal bodyguard and liason to Checkmate
- Connor, Mia, and Brick watching over Star City
- Tim as Batman
- Dick retired and Terry McGuinness in a modified Batman Beyond suit as Nightwing
- Babs as Oracle still
- Cassandra Cain as Batwoman
- The Birds of Prey and the League of Assassins merged into one crimefighting army, managed and instructed by Black Canary (martial arts) and Lady Blackhawk (weapons/piloting) and led in the field by Cassandra and Huntress
- Jason Todd and Kate Kane dead
- Diana, who's obviously not aged a day, as the goddess of truth with Cassie Sandsmark as her personal champion Wonder Woman
- Donna Troy continuing as the new Harbinger/Monitor, preserving the universe and making sure things keep running smoothly
- Guy Gardner and Soranik Natu's son as Sector 2814's new GL, paired with senior GL John Stewart
- Hal dead
- The Guardians off on sabbatical in another dimension or something, with Kilowog, Salakk, Guy Gardner, and Soranik Natu as their replacement Guardians under Kyle Rayner's leadership
- Wally's twins as the new Flashes, one protecting Central and one protecting Keystone
- Jay Garrick retired, with Bart filling his spot on the JSA
- The JSA, led by Stargirl, with Wildcat, Alan Scott, Sand, JJ Thunder, and a bunch of new heroes, with Dr. Mid-Nite as their in-house medic
- Checkmate, run by Mr. Terrific and Sasha Bordeaux, as a global peacekeeping force

Blah, I'm tapped out for now.

 

[Ben Urich]

DC should ditch All-Star and go this route. Much more interesting.

 

[Artistsean]

I'm glad some people want to see this too, not just me.