DC Animated - Superman/Batman: Public Enemies

[FlawlessVictory]

It's Great to have Tim Daly & Clancy Brown back reprising their iconic role as Superman & Lex Luthor . Mind you I really wished that Malcolm McDowell return as the voice of Metallo he was just so brilliant in the role .

I can wait for this film .

Damn, no McDowell? That stinks.

What's with the inconsistencies in using these voice actors in these DC Animated movies? No Daly for Doomsday and The New Frontier but he is in Public Enemies. No Brown for Doomsday but he is in PE. And then Conroy was in Gotham Knight(which I thought was a mistake) but not in TNF but now is back for PE.

What's the reasoning for going back and forth? It would be nice to see some sort of consistency. Either keep using Daly/Newbern and Conroy for all the films or keep them to the DCAU stuff and bring in new voice talent for each original movie.

 

[BlackLantern]

well I consider The New Frontier as a stand alone movie....and I think WB and DC want to try out different things....IMO the voice cast in New Frontier is one of the best they've put together

and you're kind of nitpicking...be happy you're getting these animated features in the first place

 

[FlawlessVictory]

^I am happy, I think these films have been great. But does that mean I'm not allowed to bring up an issue no matter how minor it may seem to be?

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea like above poster said, DC wanted these to be stand alone films and not being assoicated with the wonderful past DCAU stuff. Though it is great to see these guys back in these roles they did for so many great years. hopefully if that l film is to be for dcau we get to have them all again.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

^It's inconsistent. I get that DC wants these to be standalone films and not associated with the DCAU hence the different voice actors(among other things) on Doomsday and TNF. But you can't say that and then go ahead and still use Conroy for GK and PE when those films are outside of the DCAU. Again, it's not a big deal but it doesn't make much sense.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

^It's inconsistent. I get that DC wants these to be standalone films and not associated with the DCAU hence the different voice actors(among other things) on Doomsday and TNF. But you can't say that and then go ahead and still use Conroy for GK and PE when those films are outside of the DCAU. Again, it's not a big deal but it doesn't make much sense.

Each movie has a standalone story, therefore... standalone continuity.

Each movie has a standalone art style/animation

Each movie has different composers to bring unique flavors to the music...

And... as a result... the voice cast can be just as standalone. They can pretty much cast whoever they want in the roles and still achieve a great effect.

The only ones that would even begin to complain is... the fans!!!

 

[FlawlessVictory]

^I just don't want to hear the excuse, that they used different voice talent for Doomsday and TNF because they are standalone films and not associated with the DCAU and then go right back to that talent for PE even though it is STILL a standalone film and not DCAU. That excuse then becomes nonsense.

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

^I just don't want to hear the excuse, that they used different voice talent for Doomsday and TNF because they are standalone films and not associated with the DCAU and then go right back to that talent for PE even though it is STILL a standalone film and not DCAU. That excuse then becomes nonsense.

How is that an excuse... they can cast whoever the hell they want!!

We all know why they choose Kevin Conroy for Gotham Knight. For one Christian Bale was not available so they had to go with a different approach and Bruce Timm said that it was THE hardest project he ever had to record. Considering the movie was recorded in a complete ADR capacity, they went with a pro and someone who understood the character. Think of the time that saved, so therefore it's completely understandable.

So technically they have gone back to the DCAU triangle of Conroy, Daly and Brown once with Superman/ Batman: Public Enemies. And as I recall, Jeph Loeb did say that he wanted these guys to do the roles and that is often who he think of when writing the scripts.

Win win all round... so stop your complaining.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

^Casting Conroy was a bad move, IMVHO, for GK. It was distracting and his voice does not fit the way that character was drawn, again, my opinion. And yes, it is an excuse if you claim to not use certain actors for a project because it was out of DCAU. It is an excuse/reason. And no, sorry, it is not always a win/win for me when they go back to those actors from the DCAU as was the case with GK.

And who are you to say "so stop your complaining". It's called voicing my opinion. Get over yourself.

 

[BlackLantern]

and so what....the actors do other things and we do NOT know when someone is or isn't available at production time....and McGuiness said he wanted to get Daly and Conroy if he could, WB made it happen...its also marketing, those two actors have become so aligned with the characters, that should bump the sales numbers up at least 35 to 40 percent

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

^Casting Conroy was a bad move, IMVHO, for GK. It was distracting and his voice does not fit the way that character was drawn, again, my opinion. And yes, it is an excuse if you claim to not use certain actors for a project because it was out of DCAU. It is an excuse/reason. And no, sorry, it is not always a win/win for me when they go back to those actors from the DCAU as was the case with GK.

And who are you to say "so stop your complaining". It's called voicing my opinion. Get over yourself.

It was Timm and Romano's personal choice to bring Conroy into Gotham Knight... I'm not saying it worked, however your argument of inconsistency is a moot point.

Conroy was cast due to time and the difficulty of the project. Bruce Timm has never been one to fan-wank.

As Bruce Timm says:

i totally get the "continuity freak" p.o.v., trust me, i get that way myself sometimes -- as much as i like judi dench as m, i still wish they'd re-cast her part for CASINO ROYALE, to cite one personal anal-fan-boy example -- and honestly, i did sorta expect a certain percentage of fans to react negatively to the news of kevin's casting (i've been at this long enough to know you can never please EVERYBODY)...

but to be accused of "reducing kevin conroy to a fan-wank" frankly blind-sided me...it strikes me as an extremely sour over-reaction..."not only is my glass half-empty but it tastes like pee!"...i do realise over-the-top hyperbole is s.o.p. here on the net but come ON...!

for the record, we tried really hard to get the movie cast (bale, oldman, caine, murphy, etc) for B:GK, but ultimately just couldn't make the schedules work....remember, these aren't just big-name movie stars, they're INCREDIBLY BUSY big-name movie stars...bale had like half a week of down-time after DARK KNIGHT wrapped and then flew off to hong kong or someplace to start another movie, and once we realised we weren't going to get HIM, we figured it didn't make any sense to use the rest of the movie cast WITHOUT him, so we went in another direction entirely....

andrea romano and i then spent about 30 seconds discussing other batman voice options -- like jeremy sisto, for instance, whom we both liked very much in NEW FRONTIER -- before we both decided to go back once again to the conroy well...it just made too much sense on a lot of levels....yes, we knew it would please (MOST of!) the fans, and yes, he's a wonderful guy and andrea and i both missed working with him, but most importantly, he's just the BEST. FRICKIN'. BATMAN. VOICE. EVER...i mean, bottom-line, that's all there is to it...

plus -- as if i need any other reasons after that -- we did all the B:GK voice-work in ADR (post-synched), which is really tricky, and a skill kevin excels at...you'd be surprised how many otherwise excellent actors suck at ADR (i could tell you stories, hoo-boy), so getting kevin would alleviate that concern as well (and even WITH kevin and other seasoned pros like corey burton and will friedle at the mike, B:GK was a total ***** to record, easily the toughest project i've ever recorded)...

all in all, i have zero regrets for casting kevin in B:GK...

So like I said... they have only really returned to the DCAU actors in a big way once... hardly what I would call inconsistency.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

^Well, Bruce Timm is awesome, so..., I guess I'll let it slide then. t:

 

[The Guard]

The clip is ok. It's certainly nothing earth shattering. Not thrilled about the fact that the big drama between Superman and Luthor is apparently a two sentence exchange.

Not a big fan of the character designs and animation either, and DC animated artists still apparently cannot animate capes for ****.

The computer graphics for things such as the car pulling up...fail.

And as usual, action dialogue sucks.

So I'm not expecting miracles, but I wasn't to begin with.

The DC animated universe is obviously a secret club of some sort...because they keep recycling the same voice actors over and over. I'm iffy on how well Daly, Conroy and Brown work with these new character designs. Daly fit right in, sort of...and Brown just sounded weird in that Luthor for some reason. We'll see.

 

[MovieGeekFreak]

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johny c.m. is cool as metallo

 

[Hush]

I think Meeting Bruce Timm would be awesome. The guy just seems so cool.

 

[TheComicbookKid]

The clip is ok. It's certainly nothing earth shattering. Not thrilled about the fact that the big drama between Superman and Luthor is apparently a two sentence exchange.

And as usual, action dialogue sucks.

So I'm not expecting miracles, but I wasn't to begin with.

Sounds like something based on Jeph Loeb to me.

 

[BlackLantern]

I like the story...even own the TPB...its one of the better arcs in that series...not happy with Allison Mack voicing Power Girl....I don't like the taint of Smallville in the DCU proper

 

[willemjoker]

They seem to have chose pretty much Loeb's worst DC arc to adapt, with the possible exception of Hush. Fingers crossed for The Long Halloween or Superman for All Seasons in the future. I'd be very interested to see what an adaptation rooted in Tim Sale's visual aesthetic would look like.

 

[Metamorpho1977]

I want this to be the next Animated DC film...
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[Webhead2006]

hahaha totally funny there.

 

[Prison Mike]

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johny c.m. is cool as metallo

that...was awesome.

I like the story...even own the TPB...its one of the better arcs in that series...not happy with Allison Mack voicing Power Girl....I don't like the taint of Smallville in the DCU proper

yeah, not a fan of allison in this either.

 

[Sawyer]

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johny c.m. is cool as metallo

I prefer McDowell, but that wasnt too bad.

 

[Webhead2006]

i have no hate to allison but yea everyone has their actors they like and dislike.

 

[NightBeetle]

New clip

 

[The Guard]

Something about these character designs sucks. And I can't tell why, but I'm still not digging the animation. It reminds me of Colorforms. There's something unsettling about seeing Batman out in the daytime still trying to find the shadows. At least Conroy's brought his A game, though I wish he'd go slightly darker, as he did in GOTHAM KNIGHT.