Arrow DEADSHOT "Off The Table" According To ARROW Executive Producer Marc Guggenheim

[luis4u]

After the events that took place in the ending of this past Wednesday's Arrow, many fans speculated that the character of Floyd Lawton/Deadshot (Michael Rowe) would likely be coming back next season with a significant role due to the episode setting up the orginization H.I.V.E.. Now it seems that won't be the case as Arrow executive producer, Marc Guggenheim, was asked on his official tumblr whether there was a chance that Floyd Lawton/Deadshot would be a regular next season to which he responded with: "Unfortunately, Deadshot is off the table for the nonce". It now seems that the reason the events with Deadshot took place in this past Wednesday's episode are indeed what many fans speculated: Warner Bros. told the CW to pull the plug on Arrow's Deadshot as they have plans for him in David Ayer's Suicide Squad film.


http://marcguggenheim.tumblr.com/post/114732405684/i-seriously-think-your-casting-is-the-best-out

 

[Slade W]

It sucks. I remember David Ramsey (Diggle) saying in an interview before about a year ago that they may have a Suicide Squad series during the midseason break (like what we are getting next year with ATOM etc). Safe to say that that is not happening now.

 

[Drz]

Incredibly disappointing

 

[jonathancrane]

Bummer.

 

[Silliminite]

Sounds unnecessary. The whole reason for not connecting the movies and tv shows was so that the tv writers and characters weren't constrained by events taking place in the movies. What's the point if that's happening anyways? I think the entire Suicide Squad connection has now been cut from Arrow, as they wouldn't want two versions of Amanda Waller either.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I still doubt WB told them they had to kill Deadshot off. They've never made them kill off anyone after they are embargoed.

 

[dude stannis]

I still doubt WB told them they had to kill Deadshot off. They've never made them kill off anyone after they are embargoed.

But being declared legally dead and receiving the blame for the incident means he could go into hiding for a few seasons worth before they can bring him back.

 

[mr. peasant]

I still doubt WB told them they had to kill Deadshot off. They've never made them kill off anyone after they are embargoed.

They don't need to ever make such an explicit order since they clearly have veto rights. All they have to do is simply not approve all but that one storyline where Deadshot dies in the end. Then, everyone can turn around and say that the WB didn't specifically say that Deadshot had to die - they simply made it so that they couldn't do anything but.

 

[The Sage]

Question: while it could be possible that Deadshot was embargoed because of the film, wouldn't answering the question about Deadshot becoming a regular in the next season spoil his death? How do you know he's playing coy and doesn't want to answer because they want everyone to think he's dead in the show for the time being?

 

[BatsDC]

That kinda sucks, liked Rowe's Deadshot

 

[Lencho01]

I don't see why anyone would think Deadshot would be a regular.

 

[JC00]

Two Words:

Will Smith.

Probably got a clause in his contract that he is the only person that gets to portray the character at the time. Therefore Arrow had to make it seem like Deadshot was killed off before the movie started filming.

Suicide Squad flops or Will Smith decides not to do anymore movies then I think he could return.

But this just makes Geoff Johns a liar. Separate universes yet embargoing characters. I get embargoing the big 3. But someone like Deadshot who shows up once or twice a season? Come on.

But this really shouldnt be surprising after Ted Kord was pulled from them and they had to switch to Ray Palmer last minute.

Now the question is Deathstroke and Boomerang now off limits? Boomerang is in the movie and reports are Deathstroke is too.

 

[metaphysician]

This makes me even more suspicion about the overall plot of the season, vis a vis my conspiracy theoory. Granted, one could argue that this would point towards WB nixing the Suicide Squad as a whole, not just Amanda Waller as heartless murderer, so. . .

I fear for the Flash.

 

[Boy Scout]

Two Words:

Will Smith.

Probably got a clause in his contract that he is the only person that gets to portray the character at the time. Therefore Arrow had to make it seem like Deadshot was killed off before the movie started filming.

Suicide Squad flops or Will Smith decides not to do anymore movies then I think he could return.

But this just makes Geoff Johns a liar. Separate universes yet embargoing characters. I get embargoing the big 3. But someone like Deadshot who shows up once or twice a season? Come on.

But this really shouldnt be surprising after Ted Kord was pulled from them and they had to switch to Ray Palmer last minute.

Now the question is Deathstroke and Boomerang now off limits? Boomerang is in the movie and reports are Deathstroke is too.

You really hate Will Smith.

 

[Bathead]

You do realize what '' for the Nonce " means, don't you? That means he's leaving the possibility open that DS could come back, it's just that they have no plans to bring him back ... yet.
It could go either way.

 

[dude stannis]

I think it's safe to say it's happening because of the Suicide Squad film. I'm guessing we'll see him again, but with a solid buffer between the Will Smith cinematic appearances.

 

[ravn0s]

eh, it doesn't make any sense to me. are they going to kill the flash show when the movie comes around?

 

[The_Manhunter]

If the speculation is true, then what will happen to The Flash tv series? IMO if they are going to do this they should have just combined the movie and tv universes.

 

[mr. peasant]

If the speculation is true, then what will happen to The Flash tv series? IMO if they are going to do this they should have just combined the movie and tv universes.

I doubt the WB will cancel The Flash, TV series. That would be a whole different ball game than getting rid of Arrow's Suicide Squad; who are admittedly a group a minor (albeit well liked) characters who - at this time - aren't heavily involved in the main story.

The Flash, on the other hand, is a very successful television series that draws big numbers and has developed a strong following amongst both, comic book fans and the general audience. Cancelling the show would thus run the risk of angering said group; changing them from sure-locks to watch the movie and generate positive word-for-mouth for it in the run-up, to ones who may boycott the movie and create negative buzz.

 

[yonny616]

No link back to my article?

Anyway, like I said in the article, I wonder if the flash film will affect the tv series

 

[Primal Slayer]

If the speculation is true, then what will happen to The Flash tv series? IMO if they are going to do this they should have just combined the movie and tv universes.

They dont embargo EVERY character that is on the big screen. They knew they were makign a Flash film when they got Flash on tv.

 

[luis4u]

They dont embargo EVERY character that is on the big screen. They knew they were makign a Flash film when they got Flash on tv.

maybe wally will replaced Barry.

 

[Herolee10]

Well, this definitely brings me back to the days when "Smallville" was still on air.

As I recall, I remember that the film division had placed quite an embargo on that show as well.

From what I remember, the show couldn't bring in the likes of Batman or Wonder Woman since their films were either in development or currently being made (namely by Nolan for the latter).

The show couldn't even use Lois Lane until Bryan Singer's "Superman Returns" had gone into development, with Singer only giving the okay after he made the distinction that the two entities (Superman Returns and Smallville) were covering different time periods of the character's life. However, even with that established, Lois couldn't be a series regular until much later.

Then of course, the design of the show's "Fortress of Solitude" had to be similar to Singer's version, while they were prohibited from using Zod, prominently featuring other real kryptonians, or even showing the "S" insignia until AFTER the release of "Superman Returns".


And let's not forget about the "Bat-Embargo" that was placed on "Justice League", where they couldn't use the likes of Ra's Al Ghul or Scarecrow due to Nolan's films and were ultimately prohibited from using the Joker after he only made 2 appearances on the show.

 

[Lencho01]

You really hate Will Smith.

Seriously. As if WB hadn't been doing similar blockages of characters in the past.

 

[jonathancrane]

Regardless of the reason, it is disappointing. I just hope that it is not a precursor to larger and more terrible contradictions of the quote in my sig.