The Dark Knight Did Jonah Nolan incorporate YOUR idea in TDK?

[Phaser]

OK, we all know that Chris Nolan essentially remains "off the grid" most of the time. And we also know that Jonathan Nolan, in stark contrast, has admitted to pretty much living on the web. And I strongly he frequently lurked around these boards as well as other fan forums to mine and dig for any worthwhile ideas to incorporate in his script for TDK.

Anyways, it doesn't matter whether you claim Nolan "stole" your ideas for the film or not. As fans, we'd be honored if he did. And if he didn't, we can at least brag about the coincidence, right?

So if your idea showed up in TDK, post 'em here.

I'll start with a few:

AUGUST 2006

"Do you want to see a tragic ending in TDK?

Personally speaking, in my opinion some of the greatest sequels of all time have ended in tragedy - The Godfather 2, Terminator 2, The Empire Strikes Back...and even though it's not as "great" per se, Batman Returns (I simply love the way the film ends).

And so, in keeping with that tradition, I think it might be an excellent idea to have a somewhat tragic ending in The Dark Knight as well. I believe it'll be an excellent complement to the film's title - dark undertones mesh extremely well with loss and tragedy and sums up very well the nature of Batman's cause that it is mired in both physical and emotional struggles.

What do you think?

DECEMBER 2006

"I hope there's a club scene"

Think about it. It would be perfect.

I was watching Collateral at work today w/ Tom cruiser and Jaime foxx and when Vincent was just owning people right a left at the club and the partiers were lookin at him w/ fear. I want a scene like that in the dark knight.

And last but not least, my own:

MARCH 2006

Here's something I would absolutely love to see in the sequel, as a nod to films along the lines of Se7en and Silence of the Lambs. Have the Joker run rampant on a killing spree in Gotham, with the Clown Prince of Crime randomly disposing of his victims in seemingly freakish and unconventional ways completely devoid of patterns and logical reasoning, thereby leaving Batman nothing but dust as to clues of the Joker's next possible victim.

And as Batman, despite being ever the detective, is now locked in his cave, hopeslessly glaring at the forensic evidence gathered from the previous murders. Confused and lost, struggling to try and save the next unfortunate soul that tickles the Joker's fancy, he sets out for further and more detailed examination of the murder sites. On his way, Batman intercepts one of the GCPD patrol car transmissions :

"Alert all units. The serial-killing madman has been apprehended in the Gotham Financial District. All units in closest proximity prioritize escorting the suspect to Arkham."​

"Something's not right", thinks Batman. "An usual killer this lethal, brilliant and elusive can't be caught by typical means..." Nevertheless, he keeps his eye on the police communications anticipating, lest something go awry.

A couple of hours later after checking out the murder sites, Batman sees the signal lit up the night sky. Looks like Gordon wants to talk to him.

"You're never gonna believe this", quips Gordon "we got tipped by an anonymous source as to the killer's whereabouts and turns out that our guy voluntarily turned himself in. Looks like he's taken quite a fancy to you, demands to talk to you alone at Arkham. A couple of interrogators tried sizing him up a bit but ended up in the infirmary. Stabbed one with a pencil in the eye, burnt the other's face with some kind of acid he pulled out of nowhere and burst into hyseterical laughter. Had to move him to maximum security. We couldn't get a word out him."

And so have Batman and Joker talk face to face in a huge empty circle chamber at Arkham, with the Joker shackled up in chains. Would make for a damn interesting conversation, with the Joker admitting his strange, sadistic fascination with the Batman and a truly nasty surprise waiting in store for him at the end of their little "chat".

It's a little unnerving to see how so many of the bolded parts ended up in the film - Joker going on a killing spree, stabbing someone with a pencil in the eye, Batman and Joker talking face to face after the Joker was apprehended and a nasty surprise waiting in store for him at the end of their little "chat", the Joker "voluntarily turning himself in" (wanted to get caught)...I mean, I can see one or two things as coincidence but not this many.

 

[Carmine Falcone]

Wow, that's pretty cool actually.

 

[namtaB]

My mother used to say if you're good at something never do it for free and don't forget to get others to do the work for you when you can. Seems like Jonah might have taken some of that advice.

 

[Fenrir]

Oy! I remember that thread now! That bloody mugger Nolan! Time to call my lawyer!

 

[Mr. Earle]

Yeah, Nolan totally copied you guys. You 'd better sue him.

Have the Joker run rampant on a killing spree in Gotham

which is what he always does. Its like saying "have the riddler leave clues for his future crimes" and then seeing it happen. OMG he copied my idea.

 

[Fenrir]

Yeah, Nolan totally copied you guys. You 'd better sue him.
which is what he always does. Its like saying "have the riddler leave clues for his future crimes" and then seeing it happen. OMG he copied my idea.

Yeah, we're totally going to use this thread as proof for prosecuting the Nolan brothers in our case for copyright infringement.

Lighten up, bud.

 

[Anita18]

White lenses!

I was SO tickled pink that they made an appearance. Although it didn't occur to me, I definitely remember that quite a few people here wanted to see that aspect from the comics make it onto live-action.

 

[Drizzle]

I had a funny feeling that Commissioner Loeb would die in the sequel, and the Joker would probably be responsible for it. That was long before even "Batman Begins" came out on DVD. I also figured that The Joker wouldn't die, but I think everyone knew that.

 

[Solidus]

I know a lot of us were thinking even before TDK was fully announced to have the Joker "off" Rachael, really making Bruce dig deep, into what it meant being Batman.

 

[Anjow1060]

I really think they took the "chain armor suit" from our suggestion to be honest.

But damn......that pencil thing is so close it's un-nerving.

- Jow

 

[Anjow1060]

From Mr. Socko: http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=8207856&postcount=69

Joker should cut off the skin on Gilda's face like the man in Hannibal. Then Joker can feed it to his dogs.

- Jow

 

[namtaB]

I really think they took the "chain armor suit" from our suggestion to be honest.

But damn......that pencil thing is so close it's un-nerving.

- Jow

Go back and watch Batman TAS where Scarecrow first appears. Lot of similarities to the Crane/Scarecrow plotline of Batman Begins.