Die Hard 6

The problem is that it kind of undermines the whole point of the character. That he was just an ordinary cop unexpectedly thrust into an extraordinary situation.

So either the prequel would have to have him on a "special case" or something, which misses the point entirely, or it's got to be an ordinary cop movie about and ordinary cop, which doesn't sound all that exciting.

As someone else said passing the mantle onto his children (preferably his daughter because MEW>>>>Jai Courtney any day) would be a more preferable alternative than this.
 
As someone else said passing the mantle onto his children (preferably his daughter because MEW>>>>Jai Courtney any day) would be a more preferable alternative than this.


I'd be up for that (with Winstead).
 
If they're going young, do it right. Cast a 10 year old John McClane on the playground stopping a bunch of 8 graders from taking over the sandbox. He can meet Holly who's new to the school.
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The problem is that it kind of undermines the whole point of the character. That he was just an ordinary cop unexpectedly thrust into an extraordinary situation.

So either the prequel would have to have him on a "special case" or something, which misses the point entirely, or it's got to be an ordinary cop movie about and ordinary cop, which doesn't sound all that exciting.

As someone else said passing the mantle onto his children (preferably his daughter because MEW>>>>Jai Courtney any day) would be a more preferable alternative than this.

This post echo's my thoughts perfectly.
 
Yeah, the kids are a better idea than turning McClane into a supercop prior to the original Die Hard.
 
Year One?



John McClane is not ****ing Batman.


He was a regular Joe Shmoe cop who stumbled into a situation and became a hero.


That's the whole point. :wall:
 
Year One?



John McClane is not ****ing Batman.


He was a regular Joe Shmoe cop who stumbled into a situation and became a hero.


That's the whole point. :wall:

Isn't the point that he and the audience thought he was a regular Joe shmoe, however during the coarse of the film he, as well as the audience find out how much more than that?. No Joe Schmoe could have done what he did. Her just never been pushed to his limit before.
 
Except now we're gonna have "Year One" turn him into some superhero beforehand.
 
John was an "average" cop though. In the sense that he was a regular joe. The first movie made him into who he was. This movie will be implying John Mcclane was "John Mcclane" before he was meant to be "John Mcclane".:funny:
 
He had the habit of pissing people off even before the events of the first movie, so I can kinda take that he had some off beat action experience prior to Hans Gruber.

It's the best thing to keep him from being discharged from the force.
 
Was hoping this was going to die in development hell.
 
Few laughs indeed. I really don't think it will do good. The last one was especially bad and the one before that was unnecessary as well.
 
Live Free or Die Hard is strangely my favorite sequel.
 
I really liked Live Free or Die Hard. I skipped A Good Day because it wasn't supposed to be good and it being him in Russia with a son I didn't know made it easy to ignore.
 
Live Free or Die Hard is strangely my favorite sequel.
If it wasn't Die Hard with John McClane and instead another generic action movie with Bruce Willis it would have been fine. Instead it took McClane the furthest yet from his everyman roots. Until A Good Day took him to Russia.
 
I unapologetically really like Live Free or Die Hard. In fact, it's my second favorite out of all of them (after the original of course).
 
This is so damn dumb

I actually unapologetically like Live Free... also (wish they would've stuck with Die Hard 4.0 title in America) but I've only seen the uncut version. I mean the progress of the Die Hard series isn't that unlike Fast and Furious or Mission Impossible
 
Yeah but in doing so it lost some of the appeal. As I said, I thought it was a fine movie, it just didn't feel like a Die Hard movie to me.
 
This probably isn't anything new but I really like the TOFOP idea of taking him back to Nakatomi Plaza for an anniversary/memorial thing and basically just following the beats of the first film..

A group of germans now own the building and run their renewable energy research business out of it. It's Tesla mixed with the open plan thinking of Google and it's being updated with all modern security etc. So the new owners are taking pride in, almost boasting that the hostage situation would never happen now.

And you get McClane going back to this building where he became a hero 30 or so years ago and he doesn't really want to go but he's talked in to it by his daughter. He's the same 'everyman' as he was in the first film, he's not a super cop, he's scared s***less half the time but he knows what to do and he never loses his humour. But he's this kinda fish out of water too because he's this sort of 'dinosaur' going back with all his old fashioned attitudes and pre-conceived notions. TOFOP joke that he's going there in his petrol car and he sees everyone plugging their cars in to the mains and at the luncheon he just wants a burger instead of all hip, healthy stuff being served.

Because it's an anniversary thing you get some of the old characters back - Al Powell is there, Thornberg is there (riding the Nakatomi/McClane coattails, trying to sniff out another story), Argyle the limo driver is there (only now he owns the limo business). It would feel a bit hokey 'cos he wasn't involved in the first one but maybe Zeus could be there. Holly is back but they're divorced so she's with someone else now - he's a Greg Kinnear professor type, the 'anti McClane', who just wants to question if force was really necessary to resolve the hostage situation and preach diplomacy. But through the movie she realises she still wants John. You get another smarmy "Hans, bubby, I'm your white knight" type guy trying to do the same thing with the same result.

TOFOP only really have an basic outline of an idea for the bad guys - they're a team of mercenaries brought together by 'big energy' to steal/sabotage the renewable energy... But I think you follow the beat of the first film. The sabotage/protest thing is just a cover. Really, they just want money. The german company are heavily invested in Bitcoin so it's a heist, they're stealing billions of dollars in Bitcoin. And it should be like a heist, they should have an intricate plan just like Hans did in the first film. It would probably be a bit too much to have the leader be one of the Gruber brothers sons but that's an idea..

So you get McClane having to save the day again only things don't quite work like before. Everything is voice activated and there are cameras everywhere so he has trouble getting around the place. Of course he ends up in an air duct again. At one point he needs to get to a lower floor, he sees a hose pipe, he looks out the window, he thinks about it.. and makes a joke about being too old for that.

His daughter overhears one of the mercenaries talking about McClane running around ruining everything and they need to kill him so she goes into 'McClane mode'. You get McClane doing a fair bit of running about and killing but really it's Lucy doing all the heavy action scenes. She might not know what to do, she's obviously scared s***less too but you get John guiding her through it all on walkie talkies.. and I think you can probably work in some tender dramatic moments between the two here, as they discuss him never being there but this is the sort of reason why and he didn't want her to have to do this but he needs her help.

And that should be Bruce's last Die Hard film and you call it "Old Habits Die Hard".
 
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Not seen nor do I own number 5, (I have 1-4 box-set) nor do I have very little interest in a 6th.

What happens in number 5, beyond his son turns up, they re-connect by teaming up and stopping some bad Ruskies ?
 
What happens in number 5, beyond his son turns up, they re-connect by teaming up and stopping some bad Ruskies ?

Basically, Bruce Willis spend 90 minutes ****ting on his legacy. He wonders around on screen like someone's bad tempered grandpa who can't find the remote control. Nothing makes sense, it's cut to ****, the acting is appalling, and the movie has zero redeeming features at all. It's quite a feat.
 
Basically, Bruce Willis spend 90 minutes ****ting on his legacy. He wonders around on screen like someone's bad tempered grandpa who can't find the remote control. Nothing makes sense, it's cut to ****, the acting is appalling, and the movie has zero redeeming features at all. It's quite a feat.

Oh blimey, will definitely avoid it then. Thanks for the info.
 
This probably isn't anything new but I really like the TOFOP idea of taking him back to Nakatomi Plaza for an anniversary/memorial thing and basically just following the beats of the first film..

A group of germans now own the building and run their renewable energy research business out of it. It's Tesla mixed with the open plan thinking of Google and it's being updated with all modern security etc. So the new owners are taking pride in, almost boasting that the hostage situation would never happen now.

And you get McClane going back to this building where he became a hero 30 or so years ago and he doesn't really want to go but he's talked in to it by his daughter. He's the same 'everyman' as he was in the first film, he's not a super cop, he's scared s***less half the time but he knows what to do and he never loses his humour. But he's this kinda fish out of water too because he's this sort of 'dinosaur' going back with all his old fashioned attitudes and pre-conceived notions. TOFOP joke that he's going there in his petrol car and he sees everyone plugging their cars in to the mains and at the luncheon he just wants a burger instead of all hip, healthy stuff being served.

Because it's an anniversary thing you get some of the old characters back - Al Powell is there, Thornberg is there (riding the Nakatomi/McClane coattails, trying to sniff out another story), Argyle the limo driver is there (only now he owns the limo business). It would feel a bit hokey 'cos he wasn't involved in the first one but maybe Zeus could be there. Holly is back but they're divorced so she's with someone else now - he's a Greg Kinnear professor type, the 'anti McClane', who just wants to question if force was really necessary to resolve the hostage situation and preach diplomacy. But through the movie she realises she still wants John. You get another smarmy "Hans, bubby, I'm your white knight" type guy trying to do the same thing with the same result.

TOFOP only really have an basic outline of an idea for the bad guys - they're a team of mercenaries brought together by 'big energy' to steal/sabotage the renewable energy... But I think you follow the beat of the first film. The sabotage/protest thing is just a cover. Really, they just want money. The german company are heavily invested in Bitcoin so it's a heist, they're stealing billions of dollars in Bitcoin. And it should be like a heist, they should have an intricate plan just like Hans did in the first film. It would probably be a bit too much to have the leader be one of the Gruber brothers sons but that's an idea..

So you get McClane having to save the day again only things don't quite work like before. Everything is voice activated and there are cameras everywhere so he has trouble getting around the place. Of course he ends up in an air duct again. At one point he needs to get to a lower floor, he sees a hose pipe, he looks out the window, he thinks about it.. and makes a joke about being too old for that.

His daughter overhears one of the mercenaries talking about McClane running around ruining everything and they need to kill him so she goes into 'McClane mode'. You get McClane doing a fair bit of running about and killing but really it's Lucy doing all the heavy action scenes. She might not know what to do, she's obviously scared s***less too but you get John guiding her through it all on walkie talkies.. and I think you can probably work in some tender dramatic moments between the two here, as they discuss him never being there but this is the sort of reason why and he didn't want her to have to do this but he needs her help.

And that should be Bruce's last Die Hard film and you call it "Old Habits Die Hard".
Not sure that Ian onboard with the next one, but this fan script that you are talking about doesn’t sound much better.
 

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