Discussion: Evolution

[sithgoblin]

i have no intention of reading through this whole thread, but i felt like adding my 2 cents, so...

evolution is faaar from a fact. ask any real scientist, and he'll tell you that all science is is best guess based on evidence. nothing is "proven" at all.

is evolution probably true? yup. is it the most likely scenario? yup. is it what i believe? yup. but still, very far from proven.

Evolution is both a scientific theory and a fact. Evolution has been observed in labs with fruitflies and viruses changing from generation to generation. This is an observable fact. The (scientific) theory of evolution attempts to understand how the fact of evolution works and operates.

EDIT: And further.....

In science, a fact is a verified empirical observation; in colloquial contexts, however, a fact can simply refer to anything for which there is overwhelming evidence. For example, in common usage theories such as "the Earth revolves around the Sun" and "objects fall due to gravity" may be referred to as "facts", even though they are purely theoretical. From a scientific standpoint, therefore, the theory of evolution may be called a "fact" for the same reason that gravity can: under the technical definition, this applies to the observed process of evolution occurring whenever a population of organisms genetically changes over time, whereas under the colloquial definition, this applies to evolutionary theory's well-established nature. Thus, evolution is widely considered both a theory and a fact by scientists.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

lol...


please, if there was proof that evolution did in fact exist, it would be all OVER the news, internet, newspaper, magazines like crazy. It would be the most talked about and most debated discussion in the history of this planet. every channel would have breaking news showing the infallible evidence that yes, evolution is a fact... Bryan Williams would have an entire show dedicated to the discovery of the evidence and at the end say, "YES, Evolution is fact."

but, alas, has there ever been anything of recent to prove that this exists?...

no. no breaking news, no special broadcasts, no special news bulletins, no nothing...

ALL of this is based on pure belief.

And religion isn't? The whole foundation for religion is based on pure blind faith and belief.

Isn't is possible that God (which ever God you may ****ship), created the Universe and let everything just take billions of years to develop? I mean couldn't that have been Gods master plan?

Not to just create man then woman from man's rib and have it all work out the way it does in the bible?

I am not saying that Evolution disproves any higher power, but maybe, just maybe, the bibles written by men are wrong? I mean men do make mistakes, and if God is supossed to be perfect and infallible, then why the hell did he create Geroge Bush jr?

I mean the Egyptians worshiped many Gods before Christ was around, are they sentanced to an eternity in hell for their sins? ****shipping any God other than a christian or catholic one is, a sin, and in their time there would have been no such thing as salvation.

I mean if there is one and only one God, wouldn't every human being on this planet be born with some sort of knowledge of that God?

I truely believe in a higher power, but I have an open enough mind to realise that men, have for centuries tried to control the population of this world through one means or another.

I'm just curious why you are so closed minded to the possibility of something that can be suported by facts and evidence. Where as religion has yet to be proven by any facts.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

In science, a fact is a verified empirical observation; in colloquial contexts, however, a fact can simply refer to anything for which there is overwhelming evidence. For example, in common usage theories such as "the Earth revolves around the Sun" and "objects fall due to gravity" may be referred to as "facts", even though they are purely theoretical. From a scientific standpoint, therefore, the theory of evolution may be called a "fact" for the same reason that gravity can: under the technical definition, this applies to the observed process of evolution occurring whenever a population of organisms genetically changes over time, whereas under the colloquial definition, this applies to evolutionary theory's well-established nature. Thus, evolution is widely considered both a theory and a fact by scientists.

Nice 1.

Theres crazily large amounts of evidence for evolution. It did happen. People who don't believe it either don't understand it, or are too far brainswashed to realise the truth when its standing right infront of them

 

[Super Kal]

And religion isn't? The whole foundation for religion is based on pure blind faith and belief.

Isn't is possible that God (which ever God you may ****ship), created the Universe and let everything just take billions of years to develop? I mean couldn't that have been Gods master plan?

Not to just create man then woman from man's rib and have it all work out the way it does in the bible?

I am not saying that Evolution disproves any higher power, but maybe, just maybe, the bibles written by men are wrong? I mean men do make mistakes, and if God is supossed to be perfect and infallible, then why the hell did he create Geroge Bush jr?

I mean the Egyptians worshiped many Gods before Christ was around, are they sentanced to an eternity in hell for their sins? ****shipping any God other than a christian or catholic one is, a sin, and in their time there would have been no such thing as salvation.

I mean if there is one and only one God, wouldn't every human being on this planet be born with some sort of knowledge of that God?

I truely believe in a higher power, but I have an open enough mind to realise that men, have for centuries tried to control the population of this world through one means or another.

I'm just curious why you are so closed minded to the possibility of something that can be suported by facts and evidence. Where as religion has yet to be proven by any facts.

I never said it wasn't...

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I never said it wasn't...

Okay, what about answer the rest of my post? Are you religious? I am just assuming, so I would like to make sure. If so, what religion?

 

[The Shape]

How about we stop caring so much about where we came from and start caring about where we're going?

This thread should have ended after this post.

 

[sithgoblin]

This thread should have ended after this post.

Why?

 

[raybia]

This thread should have ended after this post.

If mankind doesn't evolve into a total civilized being then it won't really matter where will came from.

Some say we came from apes like we are a higher life than them but the world I'm looking at, monkeys and apes are better than us.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

If mankind doesn't evolve into a total civilized being then it won't really matter where will came from.

Some say we came from apes like we are a higher life than them but the world I'm looking at, monkeys and apes are better than us.

Agreed Supossed highest and most advanced life forms on Earth, yet at this rate it will be destroyed within 200-300 years at the most.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Well no other species has gained the ability to destroy the entire planet within 200 years.

Id say that was impressive

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Well no other species has gained the ability to destroy the entire planet within 200 years.

Id say that was impressive

Yeah that's pretty true, I mean it took the Dinasaours what? 600 million years? And even then it took one big ass asteroid to finally take them out? Hell we weon't even make it to 200,000 years. That's advanced baby

 

[X-Chick]

I've always wondered this:

Since evolution is a scientific fact, yet Christians still believe in creation, and God supposedly made man in the image of himself, does that mean God is an ape or other form of primate? At the very least, he'd have to be a caveman-style humanoid.

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

I've always wondered this:

Since evolution is a scientific fact, yet Christians still believe in creation, and God supposedly made man in the image of himself, does that mean God is an ape or other form of primate? At the very least, he'd have to be a caveman-style humanoid.

Great post. I can't wait for some Christians or Catholics to respond to this. Of course they will probably just ignore it.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Yeah that's pretty true, I mean it took the Dinasaours what? 600 million years? And even then it took one big ass asteroid to finally take them out? Hell we weon't even make it to 200,000 years. That's advanced baby

Yeah man.. its like.. Dogs can run and fetch things... squirrels can climb trees.. humans can DESTROY WORLDS!!!
t: We rule t:

Ive just had a thought....

right in intelligent Design, God created us all in his image still... just used Evolution to tweak it all and that lot.

But if we evolved from Monkeys... that means that when God created us in his own image.. he created a monkey... so OMFG God MUST be a monkey !!!

I've always wondered this:

Since evolution is a scientific fact, yet Christians still believe in creation, and God supposedly made man in the image of himself, does that mean God is an ape or other form of primate? At the very least, he'd have to be a caveman-style humanoid.

Think you and me must be on the same wave length lol

 

[Eros]

Evolution is ..............

 

[mightiest_mortal]

Evolution is ..............

That's deep.

 

[X-Chick]

Great post. I can't wait for some Christians or Catholics to respond to this. Of course they will probably just ignore it.

Of course. It's just something that's always bothered me with all the creation jazz.

Think you and me must be on the same wave length lol

At least someone is.


It sucks because I'm going to a damned Christian college because its the only one that offers my major. So I have to listen to their creationism stuff and complete ignorance of science. Nobody gets me there, except for the other students who are their just for my major.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Of course. It's just something that's always bothered me with all the creation jazz.



At least someone is.


It sucks because I'm going to a damned Christian college because its the only one that offers my major. So I have to listen to their creationism stuff and complete ignorance of science. Nobody gets me there, except for the other students who are their just for my major.

Sounds like my college.

 

[Arkady Rossovich]

I've always wondered this:

Since evolution is a scientific fact, yet Christians still believe in creation, and God supposedly made man in the image of himself, does that mean God is an ape or other form of primate? At the very least, he'd have to be a caveman-style humanoid.

I dont think they can answer that.From a religious stand point,god created humans in his image.There was no concept of Evoultion at the time,and people must have thought that God was a man.

Therefore God created something similar to his own appearence,Evoultion has no place in this sence.So its impossible for them to answer.

 

[X-Chick]

I dont think they can answer that.From a religious stand point,god created humans in his image.There was no concept of Evoultion at the time,and people must have thought that God was a man.

Therefore God created something similar to his own appearence,Evoultion has no place in this sence.So its impossible for them to answer.

You're basically saying science and religion can't co-exist.

This basically leaves you with three choices:
1. The Bible is lying.
2. God is an ape-like thing.

 

[Angry Sentinel]

I've always wondered this:

Since evolution is a scientific fact, yet Christians still believe in creation, and God supposedly made man in the image of himself, does that mean God is an ape or other form of primate? At the very least, he'd have to be a caveman-style humanoid.

Missing Link is also a 'scientific fact'.

 

[Fried Gold]

Put simply, the burden of proof lies with those who believe in creationism, as it's about as statistically likely as a teaport orbiting the earth.

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Is creationism a science?

 

[Fried Gold]

Is creationism a science?

It's a theory.

 

[GarudA]

It's a theory.

Creationism is not a theory as science defines it.