Discussion: Global Warming, Emission Standards, and Other Environmental Issues - Part 1

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    You can’t criticize America! We’re the city on the hill! You’ll ruin our economy! Ruin someone else’s!
     
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    It's okay he and the other wealthy people will live on their space colonies while we die on our dying planet.
     
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    Twitter dude is misrepresenting (or misunderstanding) his own source. The fine-print text says that about a billion low-polluting individuals produce less carbon waste per person over a lifetime than a single passenger on a single space flight. Granted, that’s a sobering comparison. But his “headline” suggests that a billion people in total produce less carbon waste than one astronaut. And that’s way wrong. Indeed, dude is exaggerating (if I have my math terms correct) by nine orders of magnitude. Also: Elon Musk might have been a better choice for billionaire villain. :word: His Falcon rockets use relatively dirty kerosene-based fuel. Whereas, Bezos’s (sub-orbital) Blue Origins rockets use relatively clean hydrogen/methane-based fuel.

    To be sure, space missions — generally and on a per flight basis — create more pollution than commercial airliners. But there are vastly more airline flights than space flights. One estimate says that all rocket launches in one year account for about 0.0000059% of all CO2 emissions. For airliners, it’s about 2.4%. And combined cars, trucks, etc. are even worse offenders. So if you’re prioritizing pollution targets, banning (say) two-stroke lawnmowers would have a greater impact than banning space travel.
     
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    **** Joe Manchin.
     
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