Discussion: The Tea Party

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And entertaining...
 
Like watching a smackdown between Kathy Bates from Misery and Glenn Close from Fatal Attraction locked in a room with one kitchen knife, a hammer, and a rolling pin.
 
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeah.....bring it on.

I love Kathy Bates and Glenn Close.....2 of my favorite actors, but both of those movies scared the hell out of me. AND NEVER go to a movie like Fatal Attraction with your mother....everyone make a note of that...not good.

I actually screamed out in the theater during the bathroom scene when the bubble floated to the top of the bath water....I screamed, she's alive. Not a good Sunday afternoon for me.
 
HA! The major criticism seems to be the absence of blacks, so let's address that, shall we? Blacks make up roughly 20% or less of the total population. That fact seems to be often overlooked, but let's keep going. Among the black population, I would hazard a guess the percentage of conservatives or strict constitutionalists is quite small, so now maybe we're talking less than 10% maybe even way lower than 5% of the total population as potentially lining up as attendees. But let's not stop. The pundits on the left have done a really good job of framing the movement as a racist movement. As such we've seen stories from black conservatives who feel pressure to not attend, even though they agree with the philosophy the movement presents, and this drives the number even lower. What does that take us down to, less that 1%? Well, if that’s the case, and 500 people showed up, would it be reasonable to expect 5 or less of them to be black? I, for one, think it unfortunately might be so. So should / does the Tea Party hope for a large turnout from the black community? I’m sure they do. Should / do I expect one? Nope – not even close.
 
Maybe people are finally realizing that the "Tea Party" is nothing more than the far Right wing of the GOP.
The lack of African-Americans in the Tea Party Movement is incredibly unfair due to the simple fact that the African-American voting bloc votes for Democrats in such an absurdly unison manner (90% voted Democrat in 2008 and Democrats almost always get above 80% of the African-American vote).

The Tea Part Movement is a conservative movement and African-Americans for the most part are never going to vote for Republican or Republican-esque candidates.
 
Maybe people are finally realizing that the "Tea Party" is nothing more than the far Right wing of the GOP.

You still havent realized that the Tea Party was started in protest of George W Bush, which is the actual history...so why should anyone start realizing a fake history that liberal bloggers invented?
 
HA! The major criticism seems to be the absence of blacks, so let's address that, shall we? Blacks make up roughly 20% or less of the total population. That fact seems to be often overlooked, but let's keep going. Among the black population, I would hazard a guess the percentage of conservatives or strict constitutionalists is quite small, so now maybe we're talking less than 10% maybe even way lower than 5% of the total population as potentially lining up as attendees. But let's not stop. The pundits on the left have done a really good job of framing the movement as a racist movement. As such we've seen stories from black conservatives who feel pressure to not attend, even though they agree with the philosophy the movement presents, and this drives the number even lower. What does that take us down to, less that 1%? Well, if that’s the case, and 500 people showed up, would it be reasonable to expect 5 or less of them to be black? I, for one, think it unfortunately might be so. So should / does the Tea Party hope for a large turnout from the black community? I’m sure they do. Should / do I expect one? Nope – not even close.

Here's my beef with the Tea Party, and why I will never be able to take them seriously.

Their beef is with Obama, due to his political and fiscal decisions that are contributing to our messed up economic situation, right?

Then my question is this - where the hell was the Tea Party during the 8 years of Bush that were ACTUALLY screwing up this country? They didn't turn out until Obama, a Liberal Democrat, took office. Then they march in force, protesting Obama and his policies, throwing around scare terms like "Socialist" every opportunity they can get.

But let's be clear - Obama didn't CAUSE this problem. It's not his fault. George Bush did. The same George Bush that this very same Tea Party didn't come out to protest against. Obama merely inherited this jacked up economy, and granted, it's not his job to fix it, he can only play the Bush card for so long and he's NOT fixing it, but it's not his problem.

The Tea Party just screams "Sour grapes" to me, because their party isn't in office, so now they are going to cry and stamp their feet. And you know what? Dare I say that some of this foot stamping comes due to the fact that Obama is black?

The other thing that I hate about the Tea Party, and another reason why they have ZERO credibility in my eyes is their name. The "Tea Party"?! Seriously?! Are you REALLY trying to compare what is happening today to the colonial days, when we were TAXED WITHOUT REPRESENTATION by an oppressive regime?

The parallel that they are trying to draw is completely ridiculous, and as an American I find it rather offensive. The Tea Party has absolutely ZERO credibility in my eyes. It's nothing but a bunch of politically spoiled brats who can't accept the fact that a non-conservative won the election. Even as someone who voted for Obama I'm not going to proclaim that he is doing an amazing job, and doing all the things that I voted for him for. But he is far from the political anti-Christ that the right, and the Tea Party in particular, make him out to be.
 
During Bush's 8 years, the Tea party was waking up to his screwy policies. By the time his last year in office came, the Tea party was organizing and having events in protest to Bush's policies. The media completely ignored it because it was anti-establishment and against both republican and democrat bs.

Then Obama took office and it became beneficial for the two parties and the media to pretend that the history of the Tea Party never happened and that it was a new partisan type organization. The republican and their media outlets could pretend that it was a Republican surge, and Democrats could demonize it as a Republican partisan event, in order to keep more democrats from joining in with an anti-establishment group.

So, idiots on both partisan sides believed the lie...allowing the Republicans to claim rights to what was initially a non-partisan group...and allowing the corrupt two party system to continue.
 
You still havent realized that the Tea Party was started in protest of George W Bush, which is the actual history...so why should anyone start realizing a fake history that liberal bloggers invented?

During Bush's 8 years, the Tea party was waking up to his screwy policies. By the time his last year in office came, the Tea party was organizing and having events in protest to Bush's policies. The media completely ignored it because it was anti-establishment and against both republican and democrat bs.

Then Obama took office and it became beneficial for the two parties and the media to pretend that the history of the Tea Party never happened and that it was a new partisan type organization. The republican and their media outlets could pretend that it was a Republican surge, and Democrats could demonize it as a Republican partisan event, in order to keep more democrats from joining in with an anti-establishment group.

So, idiots on both partisan sides believed the lie...allowing the Republicans to claim rights to what was initially a non-partisan group...and allowing the corrupt two party system to continue.

You mean the Ron Paul Tea Partiers that were hijacked by Palin and Co. right?
 
You mean the Ron Paul Tea Partiers that were hijacked by Palin and Co. right?

I wouldnt necessarily call them Ron Paul Tea Partiers...because he is in office and had a huge grassroots structure in place, his group were able to get momentum before other grassroots groups who didnt have a particular famnous candidate or structure.

I was there when this all went down. I was a Republican who turned on Bush and worked with liberals and conservatives on how to start a movement based on the constitution. It was against the war, against the patriot act...and so naturally there were liberals teaming up with conservatives who were angry in common cause.

What happened was that when Obama was elected, the Republicans seized onto that movement and claimed it as their own (even though the original Tea party HATED the Republican establishment and Neocons). Fox News was put in action to claim the Tea party as Republican. This is where it gets tricky...the Tea Party wanted BOTH parties to crash and burn...so while the Republicans were claiming the Tea party, the Democrats set out ALSO lying about the Tea party and claiming it was a Republican invention. The two parties work together ALL THE TIME...and they would rather work together to keep their crooked two party system that are sold out to the lobbyists rather than have a third party come in and challenge them both. So, they worked together to lie about the Tea Party. This is where Palin comes in. She is NOT a maverick or any kind of anti-establishment person...but she was painted that way by both parties specifically to make her the "change" candidate for the republicans. She was inserted by the media as the face of the Tea Party (half of which cant stand her) and the corruption was complete. This way, Palin can endorse someone as a Tea party candidate, and when they win...they'll just follow the same old Republican Party line, and it'll take a few years for people to realize that YET AGAIN the two parties have sold them a lie.
 
I understand where you are going as far as Fox, but Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck have all described it as a Conservative movement, NOT a Republican movement and made sure there was a difference seen. Hannity has stated countless times that if this ended up an arm of the Republican party it would kill it.
 
I understand where you are going as far as Fox, but Hannity, O'Reilly and Beck have all described it as a Conservative movement, NOT a Republican movement and made sure there was a difference seen. Hannity has stated countless times that if this ended up an arm of the Republican party it would kill it.

There's a reason for that. When the Republicans fall out of favor, they can have their stooges still in place as anti-establishment guys...that will lead the disenfranchised republicans right back home to the same old party. It's basically like setting up a controlled opposition.
 
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