Disney Movies

[darthcoolness3]

What is your favorite Disney movie?

 

[jmc]

Are we talking both live action and animated?

 

[CyberVenom2001]

I've always been fond of the Incredibles and Oliver and Co.

 

[X Knight]

Beauty and the Beast, Little Mermaid, and Tangled.

 

[superhero]

my favorites in order
Dumbo
robin hood
ATLANTIS THE LOST EMPIRE
a goofy movie
an extremely goof movie
sword and the stone
olive and company
pets dragon
bed nombs and broom sticks

 

[CGHulk]

Since I was raised by a grandfather who was a 50 year veteran of the industry, I was taught to nit pick apart what good animation is and what bad animation is. I don't have the luxury like the rest of you to like an animated film just for its entertainment value without nitpicking the animation apart. A lot of people love the Lion King, from an entertainment stand point it rocks, from an animation stand point it made me sick. Aladdin is a very entertaining movie but that too besides Eric Goldberg's animation on the Gene makes me sick as well. There's hit and miss in Beauty and the Beast as well. A lot of the the poor animation is because of small budgets and short production times placed on by the studio. Back in the day Walt gave his animators 3 years to animate per film. During the Disney Renaissance it was 6 months to a year per film. The reason the Genie looked great in Aladdin because Eric Goldberg was hired on the films to do the animation way before anyone else did. The ball room dance number in Beauty in the Beast was so amazing because James Baxter the greatest technical animator alive animated it. He was recruited to Dreamworks around 1997 and has been stripped from mention as a Disney animator in any publication since. He animated the burning bush sequence for Dreamworks on The Prince of Egypt.

Snow White - no she was not rotoscoped, animator Grim Natwick said he didn't do it. I love Bill Tyla's animation on Grumpy.
Pinocchio - the whale sequence by Woolie Reitherman made my grandfathers mouth dropped to the floor when he saw it in theaters.
Fantasia - the mushrooms China Dance by Art Babbit.
Dumbo - the dancing in the Pink elephant sequence.
Bambi - with his first steps learning how to walk sequence with the bunnies. Walt told the animators not to bring him their animation until they thought it was perfect. This was Walt's favorite film.
Cinderella - The Fairy God Mother animated by Milt Kahl. My grandfather pointed out what her head was doing when she said the line, "I put it away." referencing to her wand.
Alice in Woderland - the Queen animated by Frank Thomas, Alice animated by Milt Kahl.
Peter Pan - Captain Hook animated by Frank Thomas and Wendy animated by Milt Kahl.
Lady and the Tramp - Tramp's walk cycle by Milt Kahl.
Sleeping Beauty is a masterpiece.
101 Dalmatians - Roger and Anita's animation by Milt Kahl, Pongo's leaping about in the park.
The Jungle Book - a masterpiece in character animation.
The Aristocats - Thomas O'mally's reveal with song sequence animated by Frank Thomas.
Winnie the Pooh - Tigger animated by Milt Kahl.
Fox and the Hound - the bear by Glen Keane.


The Little Mermaid - Part of Your World sequence by Glen Keane.
The Rescuers Down Under - misc. mice by James Baxter, the boy flying with Marhute the eagle by Glen Keane, the cockroach waiter by James Baxter, Joanna stealing the eggs from McLeach animated by Duncan Marjoribanks. Wilber the albatross dancing shot from the waist down by Will Finn.
Beauty and the Beast - the ball room sequence by James Baxter, Cogworth animation by Will Finn, Gaston over turning a chair in Belle's house Andreas Deja.
Aladdin - The Genie's first reveal sequence with all the impersonations, and the good bye sequence all done by Eric Goldberg.
The Lion King - animation on Rafiki by James Baxter, when Pumba hid behind the tree hunting the bug animated by Dale Baer.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame - more money was thrown at this film because the directors were the Oscar nominated for Best Picture for Beauty and the Beast, there's a lot of good animation in this film.
Hercules - with Nik Ranieri's animation on Hades. Adult Hercules reveal during the obstacle course musical sequence animated by Andreas Deja.
Tarzan - Tantor by Sergio Pablos.
Tangled - Repunzel's animation supervised by Glen Keane.

I'm sure I'm leaving out animated sequences.

 

[darthcoolness3]

You can post old Disney movies and new Disney movies that are live-action and animated

 

[Laderlappen]

Beauty and the Beast

 

[DarkSovereignty]

If we're strictly talking Disney 2 dimensional animation, then
The lion king
Lilo and stitch
A goofy movie
Aladdin

 

[Ultimatehero]

Gonna give some unique answers lol:

Aladdin
First Kid
My date with the presidents daughter
Genius (or think that's the title)
Phantom at the megaplex
Halloween town
Goofy Movie
Thirteenth Year (think that's the title - the mermaid one)

 

[Lord]

I think Tangled was good, but i wouldn't consider it in any way as high as some of the classics, i don't even think i would put it in top 10 for that matter. Some Disney classics are just way too good.

Since I was raised by a grandfather who was a 50 year veteran of the industry, I was taught to nit pick apart what good animation is and what bad animation is. I don't have the luxury like the rest of you to like an animated film just for its entertainment value without nitpicking the animation apart. A lot of people love the Lion King, from an entertainment stand point it rocks, from an animation stand point it made me sick. Aladdin is a very entertaining movie but that too besides Eric Goldberg's animation on the Gene makes me sick as well. There's hit and miss in Beauty and the Beast as well. A lot of the the poor animation is because of small budgets and short production times placed on by the studio. Back in the day Walt gave his animators 3 years to animate per film. During the Disney Renaissance it was 6 months to a year per film. The reason the Genie looked great in Aladdin because Eric Goldberg was hired on the films to do the animation way before anyone else did. The ball room dance number in Beauty in the Beast was so amazing because James Baxter the greatest technical animator alive animated it. He was recruited to Dreamworks around 1997 and has been stripped from mention as a Disney animator in any publication since. He animated the burning bush sequence for Dreamworks on The Prince of Egypt.

Snow White - no she was not rotoscoped, animator Grim Natwick said he didn't do it. I love Bill Tyla's animation on Grumpy.
Pinocchio - the whale sequence by Woolie Reitherman made my grandfathers mouth dropped to the floor when he saw it in theaters.
Fantasia - the mushrooms China Dance by Art Babbit.
Dumbo - the dancing in the Pink elephant sequence.
Bambi - with his first steps learning how to walk sequence with the bunnies. Walt told the animators not to bring him their animation until they thought it was perfect. This was Walt's favorite film.
Cinderella - The Fairy God Mother animated by Milt Kahl. My grandfather pointed out what her head was doing when she said the line, "I put it away." referencing to her wand.
Alice in Woderland - the Queen animated by Frank Thomas, Alice animated by Milt Kahl.
Peter Pan - Captain Hook animated by Frank Thomas and Wendy animated by Milt Kahl.
Lady and the Tramp - Tramp's walk cycle by Milt Kahl.
Sleeping Beauty is a masterpiece.
101 Dalmatians - Roger and Anita's animation by Milt Kahl, Pongo's leaping about in the park.
The Jungle Book - a masterpiece in character animation.
The Aristocats - Thomas O'mally's reveal with song sequence animated by Frank Thomas.
Winnie the Pooh - Tigger animated by Milt Kahl.
Fox and the Hound - the bear by Glen Keane.


The Little Mermaid - Part of Your World sequence by Glen Keane.
The Rescuers Down Under - misc. mice by James Baxter, the boy flying with Marhute the eagle by Glen Keane, the cockroach waiter by James Baxter, Joanna stealing the eggs from McLeach animated by Duncan Marjoribanks. Wilber the albatross dancing shot from the waist down by Will Finn.
Beauty and the Beast - the ball room sequence by James Baxter, Cogworth animation by Will Finn, Gaston over turning a chair in Belle's house Andreas Deja.
Aladdin - The Genie's first reveal sequence with all the impersonations, and the good bye sequence all done by Eric Goldberg.
The Lion King - animation on Rafiki by James Baxter, when Pumba hid behind the tree hunting the bug animated by Dale Baer.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame - more money was thrown at this film because the directors were the Oscar nominated for Best Picture for Beauty and the Beast, there's a lot of good animation in this film.
Hercules - with Nik Ranieri's animation on Hades. Adult Hercules reveal during the obstacle course musical sequence animated by Andreas Deja.
Tarzan - Tantor by Sergio Pablos.
Tangled - Repunzel's animation supervised by Glen Keane.

I'm sure I'm leaving out animated sequences.

I'm sorry, but considering your knowledge can you give some more insight on some of thise films? In least the ones you consider more important to talk about, or the ones you didn't like or thought was flawed.

 

[Ultimatehero]

Snow White:
> The first ever animated film, the only thing that came close was a combination of Walt's shorts compiled together by a theater overseas.
> Everyone thought that it would be too difficult to make and that no one would ever want to watch an animated film, Walt proved them wrong.
> 150 girls auditioned for Snow White
> For the voice of the wicked witch, the actress had to take her dentures out.
> Grim Natwick who animated Snow White was originally reluctant to come onboard because he thought Ub Irwerks, who was let go from the studio, was the true heart of Disney - he was convinced to come to Disney and animate Snow White.
> Charlie Chaplin assisted with the financing after being sent to Walt by H.G. Wells.
> The reference for the witch on their stage of actors was actually a dude, not a creepy old woman.
> The first FILM ever to use storyboards - an animator came up with the idea, before that no film had them.

Pinocchio:
> Walt initially didn't know if he should be a puppet or a real boy.
> Jimminy Cricket was created by Ward Kimball (might be wrong on the name) after he went to Walt to quit due to having his work not put on screen with Snow White. Initially looked like a cricket but Walt thought that design was too ugly.
> Puppets were made as reference.
> Jimminy Cricket's personality was modeled after Walt's uncle.
> Disappointed at box office, possibly due to Gone with The Wind and WWII. Roy had Walt get rid of the employee bonuses because of this.
> After Roy and the bank told Walt to stop working on Bambi so he can focus only on Snow White, Walt went around that by going with Pinocchio - as introduced to him, the book, by Norm Fergusson.

Fantasia:
> Fred Moore designed the Mickey that we all think of today for this film.
> Walt originally just had the classic Mickey short, but it was too expensive to be a short - Leopold Stokowski inspired him to make it into a feature and translate other pieces of music.
> Walt wanted to have the film be 4D, but it was too expensive - he innovated that whole idea.
> This film also was the first to truly bring across the notion of stereo sound for film - or "fantasound"
> Roy Disney berated Walt about not using music the ordinary guy like him would like.
> One critic lambasted that Walt and Leopold were like 'nazis' for their power over the audience - very, very odd woman - this is probably where the 'nazi' notion comes from (because Walt was a true patriot and was a strong key to D-Day, Operation Mickey Mouse - plus Hitler hated Mickey and banned Mickey lol).
> Walt's childhood friend Walt Pfiefer worked on this film.
> After Leopold composed it, he was so soaking wet that two towels needed to be wrapped around him.

Dumbo:
> The studio was in a financial crises, so this came out of Walt needing a 'quickie' (but still top quality) that could be made fast and bring in money.

Bambi:
> MGM came to Walt with wanting to do it prior to setting forth with Snow White
> Walt put it off repeatedly because he didn't think he or his animators could pull off the realism needed yet
> They studied live deer in the studio
> The "Mother, where are you?" audience member "I'm here, Bambi" and laughter actually happened at a preview audience.
> Walt's daughter Diane asked Walt why Bambi's mother needed to die and that he could have changed it because he's Walt Disney and has changed things before.

Alice in Wonderland:
> Walt's first time on the TV was promoting this film during a Christmas special.

The Jungle Book:
> The last film that Walt was a part of.
> The initial draft was much darker and serious, Walt threw that draft out.
> Everybody questioned Phil Harris as the voice of Balloo, but Walt knew it would work.
> It ends with Mowgli's friends walking off into the jungle - very sad since it almost acted like Walt's "good bye."
> Balloo's dance steps were modeled right from Walt himself.
> Frank and Ollie animated Balloo and Mowgli's friendship.

These are the notes that come to mind right off the top of my head. Doesn't go into animation, but interesting behind the scenes tidbits. Wrote a whole 190 paged biopic on Walt, it needed to be trimmed down - but, basically any other questions I should be able to answer.

 

[Quasimod0]

Some great info in here. Thanks guys. I love readin this kinda stuff.

 

[Lord]

The ones i grew up with the most were:

-The Little Mermaid
-The Hunchback of Notredame
-Beauty and the Beast
-Lion King
-Tarzan

Though i'm not sure, i think Alice, snow white, hercules, Peter Pan, Pinocchio and Pocahontas also had a major impact on me. With animation it was with almost all of their movies up until Cars 2, that was the first time i didn't watch a Pixar film in the theatre since Toy Story 2 and Bug's life (both of which i watched a lot of times as VHS).

 

[flickchick85]

The Lion King
The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast
Wall-E
The Incredibles

I enjoy the "old" Disney movies (especially Peter Pan and The Jungle Book), but they just don't quite have the same magic as these do for me.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

The Lion King
Hercules
Aladdin
Tangled
Beauty and the Beast
Tarzan
The Little Mermaid
Atlantis: The Lost Empire

 

[Breogan]

Merge? - http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=26896905#post26896905

The Gallopin' Gaucho!

Smoking, drinking, tango dancing Mickey just cracks me up....

As for features some favorites are...
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Robin Hood
Beauty and the Beast
Mulan
Tarzan
And I liked Atlantis: The Lost Empire

 

[Breogan]

Snow White:
> Grim Natwick who animated Snow White was originally reluctant to come onboard because he thought Ub Irwerks, who was let go from the studio, was the true heart of Disney -

The way Ub Irwerks was treated seems criminal. Reminds me of the whole Bob Kane (taking all credit) Bill Finger fiasco.

Pinocchio:
> Walt initially didn't know if he should be a puppet or a real boy.

Isn't the whole point of the story a puppet becoming a real boy, how would it be one or the other?

Fantasia:
> Walt wanted to have the film be 4D, but it was too expensive - he innovated that whole idea.

4D? Describe.

 

[Teelie]

I can only imagine it would be smell or touch as a fourth "dimension."

 

[Breogan]

So for Fantasia 1940s, this would have been like the 1950s type blue/red 3D? Plus some of the immersive stuff like at the theme park theaters like the Bugs Life getting splashed or poked, and stink bomb? (that sounded weird)
That's awesome he was thinking of this stuff back then.

 

[Silvermoth]

Aladdin. I just thought it was the most epic show of all time when I was a lad

 

[DACrowe]

Continuing on the glowing buzz of Frozen getting me all nostalgic:

1. The Lion King
2. Aladdin
3. The Little Mermaid
4. Davy Crockett: King of the Wild Frontier (passed on from parents)
5. Johnny Tremain (likewise)
6. Mary Poppins
7. The Lady and the Tramp
8. Beauty and the Beast
9. Sleepy Beauty
10. Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (Hate the sequels, but this one is almost retroactively underrated these days).

My picks.

 

[DACrowe]

Oh, if it is just animation, add in Tangled, 101 Dalmatians, Cinderella and Mulan as my bottom 4.

For the record, I kind of consider Pixar to be its own thing when doing these kind of rankings.

 

[Lord]

I liked Tangled, but i still don't get all the love, i'm finding it kind of overrated, while some of the earliest 40s classics seem to be getting more underrated.

 

[DACrowe]

I admit that as stunning as films like Snow White and Dumbo are that I struggle to get into them, because for whatever reason their pacing or style did not appeal to my tiny little, warped child mind. Sadly, I imagine many kids these days probably would say the same for Little Mermaid or Lion King, unfortunately. Meanwhile, Tangled was like a breath of fresh air for those who miss "classic" Disney. So, it gets an inflated spot, I suppose.