Do any of you belive in history.

[Ice-man]

Any of you believe in History or at least what schools teach you about history, I for one think history is really embellished, i just don't believe in half the things text books say happened, i mean we weren't there thousands or hundreds of years ago so how do we really know any of it is true.

I believe some things are true like the holocaust or WWII, but other things no. I remain skeptical.


I mean if you look at the school textbooks and pay close attention, you hardly ever read of America failing and losing, no, we only hear about all the good that happened to our country.



what are your views on history.


do you think it happened the way its written in books, or are they leaving out lots of details.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

Any of you believe in History or at least what schools teach you about history, I for one think history is really embellished, i just don't believe in half the things text books say happened, i mean we weren't there thousands or hundreds of years ago so how do we really know any of it is true.

I believe some things are true like the holocaust or WWII, but other things no. I remain skeptical.


I mean if you look at the school textbooks and pay close attention, you hardly ever read of America failing and losing, no, we only hear about all the good that happened to our country.



what are your views on history.


do you think it happened the way its written in books, or are they leaving out lots of details.

thats why its called american history. and im pretty sure other countries do the same in thier texts as well.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well...history will always be shrouded in mystery to some degree.

That is part of the subjects beauty.

 

[Erzengel]

I BELIEVE that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[Prognosticator]

If you wanna hear negative stuff about America watch the liberal news channels.

 

[MakeMineMarvel]

The victors write the history books...

 

[Mee]

"History is written by the victors."


Of course you'll find warped views and false info, but I don't think they are whole events in our books that are presented as true events that actually never happened.

 

[Prognosticator]

Why grow up reading 'glass is half empty' books when you can read 'glass is half full' ones.....life is pessimistic enough when you become an adult.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Life sucks way before you become an adult. I started getting bitter about 9th grade.

 

[Ice-man]

If you wanna hear negative stuff about America watch the liberal news channels.

Even that too, i hate how news channels never show us whats really going on in the world.

if you didn't notice, although Im not for the war right now, we barely hear about it anymore, as apposed to a few years back when that was the number one thing on everybody's mind, i mean if you really saw what was going on down there you'd hate the American troops.

there so ****ing mean to those innocents.


now years and years later, how do you think the current war will be portrayed in the history books our kids or grandkids read.

 

[Prognosticator]

probably like Vietnam. negatively.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Life sucks way before you become an adult. I started getting bitter about 9th grade.

Ninth grade? That late? S**t, I got bitter at about the Sixth.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Ninth grade? That late? S**t, I got bitter at about the Sixth.

I was on an upswing in 6th-8th...when I hit 9th, I hated not everything, but close to it

It just gets worse, though

 

[Ice-man]

I was on an upswing in 6th-8th...when I hit 9th, I hated not everything, but close to it

It just gets worse, though

Sooo true, maybe about 1-2 years ago i started to not care about bull****.

 

[Erzengel]

Ninth grade? That late? S**t, I got bitter at about the Sixth.

Seriously wtf is wrong with some of you?

You had like zero worries back then.

What did you have to stress about?

Bitter and jaded. I laugh when high school kids at 15, talk as if they traveled the World like f'ing Batman. 6th grade? C'mon. That's just being spoiled and ungrateful.

Granted there are a select few who maybe had it really tough but I HIGHLY doubt most of you Surburbanites had it rough.

 

[Movies205]

You know some uppity pretencious kid in my 19th Century Brit Lit class try to pull that crap... The professor let him have it and it was glorious There history books and then there are school textbooks, big difference

 

[Ice-man]

Seriously wtf is wrong with some of you?

You had like zero worries back then.

What did you have to stress about?

Bitter and jaded. I laugh when high school kids at 15, talk as if they traveled the World like f'ing Batman. 6th grade? C'mon. That's just being spoiled and ungrateful.

Granted there are a select few who maybe had it really tough but I HIGHLY doubt most of you Suburbanites had it rough.

Thats true too.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Seriously wtf is wrong with some of you?

You had like zero worries back then.

What did you have to stress about?

Bitter and jaded. I laugh when high school kids at 15, talk as if they traveled the World like f'ing Batman. 6th grade? C'mon. That's just being spoiled and ungrateful.

Granted there are a select few who maybe had it really tough but I HIGHLY doubt most of you Surburbanites had it rough.

I wouldn't give people this lecture. You have no idea what some people went through during HS (my home life was horrible during this period...not the worst anyone has suffered by far, but I had many problems in HS). Let's just say zero worries didn't apply to me.

I'd say let it go man.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Well the one problem historians cite with history is it is writing by the elite, and more importantly, the literate. Leaving a very large portion of the population unaccounted for and many sides of the story potentially untold. History, like most studies, tries to be scientific and unbiased in it's approach. But it's hard to gage bias when you are 10, 100, or 1000 years removed. Certain things, like modern history we can be more sure of, but there is a degree of healthy skepticism and critical anaysis in even that.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Well the one problem historians cite with history is it is writing by the elite, and more importantly, the literate. Leaving a very large portion of the population unaccounted for and many sides of the story potentially untold. History, like most studies, tries to be scientific and unbiased in it's approach. But it's hard to gage bias when you are 10, 100, or 1000 years removed. Certain things, like modern history we can be more sure of, but there is a degree of healthy skepticism and critical anaysis in even that.

Not to mention ancient artifacts and records being destroyed by the conquerors of the land.

 

[Erzengel]

I wouldn't give people this lecture. You have no idea what some people went through during HS (my home life was horrible during this period...not the worst anyone has suffered by far, but I had many problems in HS).

I'd say let it go man.

I love the fact that some kids think they are the first ever to have it rough in high school, like they are some sort of victim of life.

I didn't have the greatest high school experience either but I haven't let it make me wallow in self pity and jadedness.

Talk to me when you are an adult, with no job, wondering where you are going to eat next and then come back and talk to me about hardships.

A lot of kids b'tch and complain about a hard home life, granted the ones who get beaten, abused and molested are a different story, but the fact that most have very little to complain about.

So seriously, don't go off on me like I can't relate. Get over it.

 

[kooguy911]

the history i learned has some negative things in it. For instince, our 2nd president, john adams, was a horrible man who created the alien and sedition acts. They didnt *remove* that from history...

 

[Erzengel]

the history i learned has some negative things in it. For instince, our 2nd president, john adams, was a horrible man who created the alien and sedition acts. They didnt *remove* that from history...

He had to. How else could we stop them from blowing up the White House?

 

[Spider-Fan]

I love the fact that some kids think they are the first ever to have it rough in high school, like they are some sort of victim of life.

I didn't have the greatest high school experience either but I haven't let it make me wallow in self pity and jadedness.

Talk to me when you are an adult, with no job, wondering where you are going to eat next and then come back and talk to me about hardships.

A lot of kids b'tch and complain about a hard home life, granted the ones who get beaten, abused and molested are a different story, but the fact that most have very little to complain about.

So seriously, don't go off on me like I can't relate. Get over it.

I am not saying you can't relate, I am saying it is pointless to put yourself in another person's shoes, as you are not them and handle stuff differently. You can relate to the situation, sure, but not to how the person handles things. That is why I hardly personally hardly ever go off on people and give this lecture. Granted, I never got beaten or anything, but I did suffer verbal abuse and pretty much faced being homeless.

I am not going off on you at all. If I was, you'd know. I am simply giving you the otherside.

 

[Deadpool876]

To the victor goes the spoils....and the privilege to write history.

The movie Braveheart comes to my mind. Great movie by the way.