Do You Believe In Evolution?

[The Chairman]

Spinal problems can arise from many causes: injury and stress among them. But the most general reason is likely that health problems are the result of sin. Adam & Eve are never described as being ill in the Garden, and various theories suggest they could've been there for over a century prior to the Fall.

Are you trying to say that health problems arise because of sin meaning that things like gluttony and general abuse of the human body (such as smoking, drinking, etc.), both of which are considered sins by many to be sinful, then I can agree with you.

But to say Adam & Eve automatically predestines the entire human race to a barrage of suffering no matter what is a bit....much.

 

[dark_b]

...What an assholish comment

That is seriously one of the most heinously evil things I have ever heard.
I can list off for you the friends and relatives I have who would never harm a fly, who love their neighbour, who follow your stupid dogma, who have never even been given the CHANCE to sin, who have spent weeks and months in agony with illness or DIED because of it.

In your opinion, is that because somehow, in their thoughts, they sinned so profoundly that they DESERVEDTHATPAIN?
You ass?

And still, dictators and serial killers and mass murderers live long and healthy lives.

I want an apology for what you just said

i guess this is the part where i and a lot of people on this world have a problem with this ''god''.

he told us what to do to go to heaven. and some people do it and they still get sick. some peopel are very evil and they get away of it.
well this a big reason to not belive in ''god''

evolution: today was a documentary and some scientist said that you would have to be stupid to not belive in evolution. i guess some people just dont understand what evolution is.

 

[Carcharodon]

evolution: today was a documentary and some scientist said that you would have to be stupid to not belive in evolution. i guess some people just dont understand what evolution is.

I don't think that not believing in evolution automatically equates to stupidity. I think ignorance plays a much larger role than stupidity itself.

Then again, there really are those rare exceptions who do know evolutionary theory, have a good scientific background and remain skeptical, or even go so far as to say they don't believe in it entirely. I have yet to talk to one on this board, but I'd like to.

 

[Carcharodon]

Are you trying to say that health problems arise because of sin meaning that things like gluttony and general abuse of the human body (such as smoking, drinking, etc.), both of which are considered sins by many to be sinful, then I can agree with you.

Unless we're talking birth defects, then the only sin that would lead to back problems would be gluttony, or possibly screwing unwed 20-year-olds into your 80's.

That's not what he's referring to. He's talking about original sin.

 

[JLBats]

People somehow instantly think that believing in the PROCESS of evolution means you part and parcel believe in the Big Bang, and that you inevitably do not believe in religion.

Sadly, most of the time the only religion they're arguing for is a Judeo-Christian one.
It's just ignorant.

 

[Carcharodon]

People somehow instantly think that believing in the PROCESS of evolution means you part and parcel believe in the Big Bang, and that you inevitably do not believe in religion.

THAT is stupidity.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

People somehow instantly think that believing in the PROCESS of evolution means you part and parcel believe in the Big Bang...

The reason for this train of thought is quite simple: evolutionists generally insist that evolution could only have come about via the Big Bang. Therefore, it is a core teaching of the evolutionary theory. The two are inextricably bound together.

 

[The Battousai]

the reason for this train of thought is quite simple: evolutionists generally insist that evolution could only have come about via the big bang. therefore, it is a core teaching of the evolutionary theory. The two are inextricably bound together.

No they don't.

 

[Ash J. Williams]

The reason for this train of thought is quite simple: evolutionists generally insist that evolution could only have come about via the Big Bang. Therefore, it is a core teaching of the evolutionary theory. The two are inextricably bound together.

Like you, I find it much easier to believe that God created the heavens and the Earth than I do the Big Bang theory.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Like you, I find it much easier to believe that God created the heavens and the Earth than I do the Big Bang theory.

You find it easier to believe, because you want to believe it. And fear the idea of there simply not being anything. Fear that god may not exist and everything you've been taught is a lie. Does it have to be that way? no.. but extreme Christians only seem to see black or white. for some reason they can't even begin to comprehend the idea of both being correct. you both need to seek out squeeks for expert advice.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The reason for this train of thought is quite simple: evolutionists generally insist that evolution could only have come about via the Big Bang. Therefore, it is a core teaching of the evolutionary theory. The two are inextricably bound together.

no there not... sure most people who believe in one, believe in the other, but the 2 arn't related and don't need to be. bud i really think you need to dig alot harder outside of christian biased news sources.

 

[Ash J. Williams]

You find it easier to believe, because you want to believe it. And fear the idea of there simply not being anything. Fear that god may not exist and everything you've been taught is a lie. Does it have to be that way? no.. but extreme Christians only seem to see black or white. for some reason they can't even begin to comprehend the idea of both being correct. you both need to seek out squeeks for expert advice.

I believe it because I know it's true. I don't feel like I've been lied to.

 

[The Senator]

The reason for this train of thought is quite simple: evolutionists generally insist that evolution could only have come about via the Big Bang. Therefore, it is a core teaching of the evolutionary theory. The two are inextricably bound together.

You really like to make up facts, don't you?

 

[Ash J. Williams]

For all you know, he could be telling the truth.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I believe it because I know it's true. I don't feel like I've been lied to.

you said "easier to believe" that means your choosing to believe it, if you know it to be true, you wouldn't of chosen the word "believe" esp with the word "easier" in front of it.

 

[The Battousai]

I believe it because I know it's true. I don't feel like I've been lied to.

People of every religion/doctrine feel that way about what they believe. How is anyone's supposed "knowledge" more correct than any other?

 

[spideyboy_1111]

People of every religion/doctrine feel that way about what they believe. How is anyone's supposed "knowledge" more correct than any other?

which is exactly why using ones own religion to prove "facts" doesn't work.

 

[The Battousai]

For all you know, he could be telling the truth.

It may be true about people he's met, but that doesn't automatically blanket all who agree with evolution with that mindset.

you said "easier to believe" that means your choosing to believe it, if you know it to be true, you wouldn't of chosen the word "believe" esp with the word "easier" in front of it.

Nice catch

 

[Ash J. Williams]

It may be true about people he's met, but that doesn't automatically blanket all who agree with evolution with that mindset.

Notice I said "could."

 

[Hotwire]

But the most general reason is likely that health problems are the result of sin. Adam & Eve are never described as being ill in the Garden, and various theories suggest they could've been there for over a century prior to the Fall.

I wonder if you've ever tried to tell the mother of a child born with sevre birth defects, that these are a result of her sin. Now while I'm sure you will support your arguement with examples of drug addicts who's babies were born with problems, but that is not even close to fair. Try explaining to a mother that somehow her sin has cursed her child to a life of hardship. And try to explain how this is even remotely fair to the child.


And by the way, you never did address the book of Leviticus directly contradicting the, "Thou Shalt Not Kill," commandment.

 

[The Battousai]

Notice I said "could."

Notice I said, "may".










(see what I did there?)

 

[comicgirl]

Do You Believe In Evolution?




ayuh....Next obvious question........

 

[Moviefan2k4]

I wonder if you've ever tried to tell the mother of a child born with severe birth defects, that these are a result of her sin.

Birth defects can be the result of several biological factors, as well as resulting from substance abuse. I wouldn't attribute them all to individual sin, but I do think such defects are ultimately a consequence of original sin. When Adam & Eve failed, God placed a divine curse on both them and the ground, which in turn brought about all sorts of trouble. While I can't say for certain (only God absolutely knows), I think it's at least a possibility.

And try to explain how this is even remotely fair to the child.

Fairness almost has nothing to do with it. We live in a sinful, fallen world, where fairness and justice are rarely seen in their purest form. That will change when God sets things right, but until then it's still suffering from human disobedience.

And by the way, you never did address the book of Leviticus directly contradicting the, "Thou Shalt Not Kill," commandment.

I did address that issue; go back a few pages and you'll find it. I referenced the various Hebrew words and their meanings in such a context.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

And by the way, you never did address the book of Leviticus directly contradicting the, "Thou Shalt Not Kill," commandment.

They've been doing that alot... if they can't back it up or think of there own asinine logic, they just ignore the post. They do this to all valid points, esp ones that force them to question there own words and beliefs.

 

[Bill]

The reason for this train of thought is quite simple: evolutionists generally insist that evolution could only have come about via the Big Bang. Therefore, it is a core teaching of the evolutionary theory. The two are inextricably bound together.

No, it isn't. It has nothing to do with evolutionary theory. It is a separate that explains the beginning of the universe. Evolution had to wait until life had begun before it had something with which to work.

Where do you get your knowledge of science? Post a link for this.