This I can't deny; and it's true that some of the most fun/existential jam sessions I've had came off of being stoned. But my point was that these things don't make you more creative. They just make you think everything is awesome. And since you think everything is awesome, you're more willing to let creative inhibitions go.
Not really, as i said, if you allow the drug to take you over, you will let your creative sensibilities slide, you still have to be intelligent when you are stoned, you have to take control of the trip and use it beneficially, you learn how to do this through experience.
Marajuana makes you more sensitive to sound, that's why a lot of musicians use it. Same with artists, it makes you more sensitive to colours and shapes, heightened senses, but you always have to remember that you might be kidding yourself on with an artistic desicion, ie keep a tight reign on your editing skills.
However, I've read a great number of interviews with artists and musicians who feel that they're best work came about when sobering. Which begs the question: if we all LOVE their drugged out work, how much better would it have been if they were sober when writing?
Sure, of course it is not guaranteed to give you a better artistic result, I didn't say it did, but what i do say is that it can broaden your artistic horizons.
Some people might prefer the Beatles work of the pre-drugs influence, but, in the main, their post-drugs work is held in higher regard, no pun intended, as it is held to be more interesting.
Okay, maybe I didn't explain this one very well. My point was that if we're measuring the quality of social skills learned by x drug; i feel that ciggs can be somewhat better at this. In order to open up and talk to strangers when drinking/smoking weed; the drug has to affect you mentally. You have to be DRUNK or HIGH (ie: not your true self) in order to talk to someone. Theres no honest progression or lesson learned there. Its cheating and hollow. Where as with social smoking, your mind is not affected; you remain your sober self, and its completely your call as to whether or not to hold a conversation with a stranger. In that situation, being 100% sober and in a comfort zone, you are able to be social as your true self, and therefore more likely to walk away learning something/progressing out of your introvertedness.
You are either ignoring or forgetting what i said earlier, when you are a shy person, you can learn lessons from being drunk or high, on what happens when you lose your inhibitions and learn to enjoy yourself. Again, you still have to be intelligent when you are drunk or high, so you have a good time, there is a difference between being silly in order to make enjoyable fun, and being stupid-senseless and boring as a result.
It's all down to the individual, and how much they take or can handle.
and these lessons and experiences can be applied to your social life when you are sober.
I mean, look at your example of social smoking benefits, 'you can go up to a woman and ask her for a light, and the convo starts from there.'
If you can't just walk up to a woman and start off a conversation about something else, if you are so dependant on that opening line, then you should start brushing up on your patter, cause a cool woman will respond to a cool convo opener.
there is no social benefits that smoking brings, not that i can see anyway, I am unconvinced by your examples.
It's impossible to measure the amount of time a cigarette subtracts, everybody's genetically different.
' But of course dogooders can't just say 'No I don't smoke and I dislike it', they have to push their beliefs on smokers who are just trying to mind their own business and who aren't hurting them.
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