do you think reed richards can really cure ben grimm?

[Anubis]

actually the child thing is exactly what i would go for. sort of like whats going on with firestorm. banner teaching hulk had to be beter they would work together. but i dont know what would happen with the grey hulk personality.

Well, if were talkin Grey Hulk, then I could see Banner trying to hunt him down because he feels responsible for his actions.

 

[The Question]

I meant in your version of Banner being "cured"?



I could get on board with the personalitys being separated into two entitys. Banner having to look out for the Hulk who is more of a big child now. Maybe it's already been done, but I wouldn't mind if that happened.

It has been done. Doc Sampson and some scientists made a machine that split Banner into two entities. One that was in the form of the Hulk, and one that was in the form of Banner. banner's personality was transmited into the Banner entity, and the various Hulk personalities were transmited into the Hulk enyity. Banner married Betty, and became a government operative. Hoerver, The Hulk became more dangerous than ever, going on a murderous rampage across the U.S., culminating with a showdown between him and The Avengers in New York. Eventually, it turns out that the two entities couldn't survive seperated as they were, so The Vision used his powers to fuse them back together.

 

[Anubis]

I've always thought it would be better if someone made Bruce realize Hulk is a part of him (ala Ultimate Hulk v. Wolverine, though I did write a story about this happening before that). After all, it would make sense since all this business of "curing" him would only exacerbate what is essentially a psychological problem (taking on physical form) but being treated as some kind of exterior illness.

Make Bruce make peace with his anger and then have some Joe Fixit/Intelligent hulk fun.

Thats the best way I feel that Hulk should go. At least as far as character progression. I've always liked the Professor Hulk best of all.

 

[Anubis]

It has been done. Doc Sampson and some scientists made a machine that split Banner into two entities. One that was in the form of the Hulk, and one that was in the form of Banner. banner's personality was transmited into the Banner entity, and the various Hulk personalities were transmited into the Hulk enyity. Banner married Betty, and became a government operative. Hoerver, The Hulk became more dangerous than ever, going on a murderous rampage across the U.S., culminating with a showdown between him and The Avengers in New York. Eventually, it turns out that the two entities couldn't survive seperated as they were, so The Vision used his powers to fuse them back together.

Yeah, I thought so. Thats the problem really. Everytime theres a possibility for growth, they go ahead and take things back to the status quo.

 

[The Question]

Yeah, I thought so. Thats the problem really. Everytime theres a possibility for growth, they go ahead and take things back to the status quo.

I'm fairly certain that it was intended to fuse them back together the entire time.

 

[Anubis]

Much like superman's "Death". Okay, I see.

 

[deemar325]

Read 1602 by Neil Gaiman, his explaination for Ben staying the Thing does it for me.

 

[XwolverineX]

I've always thought it would be better if someone made Bruce realize Hulk is a part of him (ala Ultimate Hulk v. Wolverine, though I did write a story about this happening before that). After all, it would make sense since all this business of "curing" him would only exacerbate what is essentially a psychological problem (taking on physical form) but being treated as some kind of exterior illness.

Make Bruce make peace with his anger and then have some Joe Fixit/Intelligent hulk fun.

I always thought it'd be awesome if Banner and th' Hulk became to distinctive personalities, sharin' th' same host. Kinda like th' Prince an' th' Dark prince from Prince of Persia 3. Readin' their conversations with each other would be quite amusin'. An' it would be cool how th' dialogue would change dependin' on whom was in control at that certain point in time.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

Read 1602 by Neil Gaiman, his explaination for Ben staying the Thing does it for me.

what was it?

 

[XwolverineX]

what was it?

Just buy it!

 

[Zaptoitnow]

As far as the original note of this topic, I like Niel Gaimen's answer to the question. In 1602, he had his Reed Richards analogue say that there is something he has deemed the Law of Story. That being that the world above all else is determined by whatever path is more interesting, and tha no matter whether Reed is ever able to cure Ben, he will always return to the Thing since he is "infinitely more interesting that way".

 

[Anubis]

Oh yeah, I remember that. Beautiful line.

 

[deemar325]

Gaiman is the freaking Godhead comic writer!!

 

[deemar325]

what was it?

Zap layed it out already.

 

[Darthphere]

1602 was just a great comic all around. I just wish they wouldve convinced him to write a sequel for it.

 

[GoldenAgeHero]

would gaiman opt for working a comic company exclusively? or is that not part of his thing?

 

[Darthphere]

would gaiman opt for working a comic company exclusively? or is that not part of his thing?

Doesnt seem like his thing. And if he did it wouldnt be Marvel im betting.

 

[Anubis]

I don't know. He worked pretty much for DC doing Sandman and other vertigo titles for a long time. He also worked on Spawn I believe. He didn't seem to be the type to move around much. But the guys getting into movies and stuff, so I don't see Gaimen going that route. Unless Marvel can help him get those Maricle Man rights sorted out. Even then, I'm sure he's weary of what these big companies are capable of. Seeing how they've both treated Alan Moore.

 

[deemar325]

Alan Moore in my opinion screws himself up. The more I learn about the guy the more I dislike him, I love his writting sure. Yet he's kind of a sour puss whiner.

 

[Wolverazio]

Alan Moore in my opinion screws himself up. The more I learn about the guy the more I dislike him, I love his writting sure. Yet he's kind of a sour puss whiner.

I find that interesting since the more I find out about him the more I love him. Funny how the world works.

 

[Anubis]

One man's *****e bag is another man's messiah.

 

[XwolverineX]

Alan Moore is an' will always be one of or th' best comic writer of all-time. But everythin' I hear from him just makes me hate him more.

 

[Darthphere]

Alan Moore, magnificent writer. My opinion on the other stuff is, shut up, get a lawyer and do something about it.

 

[Anubis]

I don't know. I just think he's bitter and opinionated. years of being screwed over by the big two have made him something of a sour puss. An old whiney fuddie duddy. But when you think about it, thats an accurate description of about 90% of all message board posters. The majority should love him. He's they're king.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Reed cannot cure Ben for story purposes, if this were real life and he still could not figure it out, he'd use all his clout as a scientist and rally a whole bunch of biologists, Beast (premiere geneticist) and others to cure Thing if he could not do it himself.