Doctor Strange In The Multiverse Of Madness Rate And Review Thread(Tag Spoilers!!)

[First Avenger]

It's probably the most visionary movie from Marvel and I'm sad it seems to be so divisive. For me it was all on point, from Raimi's directing and editing style, to Elfman's music, the tone, pacing, acting, the way the story is kept simple and linear even when dealing with the Multiverse shenanigans. Just a fantastic production and I REALLY want more Sam Raimi Marvel!

 

[GuestStar2004]

At times it felt like a Tim Burton movie. Maybe it was the music.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I feel like this movie is gonna age well, especially when all the fan expectations wear off. I'm seeing a lot of love directed towards Raimi and the performances, and I think that's just gonna grow more and more over time.

 

[Negrotigre]

Poorly written movie with some cool action scenes in it. Elizabeth Olson was MVP for sure, but I did not like what they did to her character. She was basically a deadly psycho, which doesn't mesh with her character at the end of Wandavision. Christine and America Chavez weren't really needed either.

The movie had its moments, and the two leads were good. Elizabeth Olsen was very good. I will not call it a bad movie, but it wasn't very good either. Overall, it's a missed opportunity because this could have been something special. I'm thinking Raimi wasn't the right person for this. And Marvel needs new writers! Most of the past few movies, and the TV shows, have suffered from poor writing, including preachy, cringe inducing dialogue in big moments.

Grade: C

 

[First Avenger]

I think people really need to re-evaluate what happened in Wandavision because Wanda didn't redeem herself at all at the end of the series:
1) She runs away from Westview without facing any consequence, She doesn't even apologize to the people of Westview
2) She traps Agatha Harkness' mind in her sitcom persona, as cruel a torture as It can be
3) She starts studying the Darkhold and getting corrupted by it

Wanda is hardly a hero at the end of WV. The movie also makes it very clear that the Darkhold corrupts everything and everyone around it, through visual clues, dialogues and the Strange's variants we meet.

 

[CyclopsSummers]

My audience applauded Captain Carter, Mister Fantastic, and Professor X.

I'll tell the true. If Illuminati werent in this movie, Dr Strange 2 wouldnt be good that much

In fact this movie introduces us the best MCU variant universe, earth838! among all variant universe (in What-if, Raimiverse, Webbverse, Venomverse, 838 ...) in this 838, avengers exist, X-men, F4, inhumans all exist
I'ld like the same for main MCU (616)

 

[InCali]

I think people really need to re-evaluate what happened in Wandavision because Wanda didn't redeem herself at all at the end of the series:
1) She runs away from Westview without facing any consequence, She doesn't even apologize to the people of Westview
2) She traps Agatha Harkness' mind in her sitcom persona, as cruel a torture as It can be
3) She starts studying the Darkhold and getting corrupted by it

Wanda is hardly a hero at the end of WV. The movie also makes it very clear that the Darkhold corrupts everything and everyone around it, through visual clues, dialogues and the Strange's variants we meet.

Wanda has always been psychologically fragile. While I haven't seen the movie yet, it would be well within character for her to temporarily go off the edge.....again. In fact, I would be surprised if she didn't. Ultimately, she is a good hearted person who has been traumatized on multiple occasions (in particular, brainwashing, feeling responsible for the deaths of people she was trying to save, and the death of those she loved).

 

[GuestStar2004]

Spoiler

Wanda's story in this film is that she wants to be happy with her kids and it doesn't matter who gets in the way. she will kill them all. and she does.

 

[Punisher_MAX]

Poorly written movie with some cool action scenes in it. Elizabeth Olson was MVP for sure, but I did not like what they did to her character. She was basically a deadly psycho, which doesn't mesh with her character at the end of Wandavision. Christine and America Chavez weren't really needed either.

The movie had its moments, and the two leads were good. Elizabeth Olsen was very good. I will not call it a bad movie, but it wasn't very good either. Overall, it's a missed opportunity because this could have been something special. I'm thinking Raimi wasn't the right person for this. And Marvel needs new writers! Most of the past few movies, and the TV shows, have suffered from poor writing, including preachy, cringe inducing dialogue in big moments.

Grade: C

...did you even really watch WandaVision?

 

[First Avenger]

Wanda has always been psychologically fragile. While I haven't seen the movie yet, it would be well within character for her to temporarily go off the edge.....again. In fact, I would be surprised if she didn't. Ultimately, she is a good hearted person who has been traumatized on multiple occasions (in particular, brainwashing, feeling responsible for the deaths of people she was trying to save, and the death of those she loved).

Yeah, I mean, Tony convincing himself he needed to create Ultron was Wanda's doing, the very first major thing She does in the MCU...

 

[Havok83]

I was torn between giving this a 5 or 6 but ultimately went with 6 bc it wasnt terrible but it was most definitely a disappointment. Its rare that I have found the original MCU film in a series better than its sequel but DS1 was better than this and I disliked that film when it first came out. DS2 wasnt good. It had alot of potential but ultimately fell flat

 

[InCali]

So I can't go see this until Tuesday and I'd like to get people's opinions about something.

I'm one of those people who actually rather likes 3D. My local Cinemark is showing it in the premium (XD) theater in both 3D and 2D. The problem is that the 3D showtime won't work for me. I could go to a 3D showing at a smaller screen, but am not sure which would work better. I know this is pretty subjective. I like to sit way up close so, while big screens are cool, I've got my face in the screen anyway.

 

[First Avenger]

I Heard 3d is pretty good in this.

 

[Frodo]

I was torn between giving this a 5 or 6 but ultimately went with 6 bc it wasnt terrible but it was most definitely a disappointment. Its rare that I have found the original MCU film in a series better than its sequel but DS1 was better than this and I disliked that film when it first came out. DS2 wasnt good. It had alot of potential but ultimately fell flat

It occurred to me, that I tend to be mixed on the " part 2's" of several MCU films.

I mean: Iron Man 2, Ant Man 2, Doctor Strange 2, GOTG 2, Avengers : Age Of Ultron, have all been so-so or iffy for me at least.

Spiderman Far From Home is okay imo, but it's not as good as Homecoming and No Way Home

I haven't seen Thor : The Dark World yet, but what i've heard about it has been mixed, so I still haven't seen it.

The only MCU "part two" I've really enjoyed was CATWS.
That film is superior to CATFA imo.

I don't know what that means for how I will respond to Black Panther : Wakanda Forever.

 

[Havok83]

It occurred to me, that I tend to be mixed on the " part 2's" of several MCU films.

I mean: Iron Man 2, Ant Man 2, Doctor Strange 2, GOTG 2, Avengers : Age Of Ultron, have all been so-so or iffy for me at least.

Spiderman Far From Home is okay imo, but it's not as good as Homecoming and No Way Home

I haven't seen Thor : The Dark World yet, but what i've heard about it has been mixed, so I still haven't seen it.

The only MCU "part two" I've really enjoyed was CATWS.
That film is superior to CATFA imo.

I don't know what that means for how I will respond to Black Panther : Wakanda Forever.

Thor 2 is arguably the worst MCU film and that’s what I was thinking of. Ultron was definitely a disappointment too. I like the others though

 

[Holy Slapper]

Spoiler

When Xavier went inside Wanda's mind, it shows that the true Wanda was still there but tucked away deep, maybe by the Darkhold, considering how cruel it was.

I have to say Wanda won my sympathies back in that scene.

 

[InCali]

Wanda's story in this film is that she wants to be happy with her kids and it doesn't matter who gets in the way. she will kill them all. and she does.

Do you happen to know that the phrase "tag spoilers" means?

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I would give this a very strong 8/10.

It was refreshing to see that after all these years, Raimi hasn't lost his touch. There were moments where you can see where his hands were tied to Marvel, but they ultimately let him do his thing and all of the cast from Cumberbatch, to Olsen, to Gomez, to McAdams all pulled their weight.

My only real gripe is that I felt that Scarlet Witch was overpowered just a tad, but it still was a thrilling film. The combined efforts of the cast, Waldron, Raimi and Feige made this stellar.

Looked so good on IMAX too.

 

[InCali]

I would give this a very strong 8/10.

It was refreshing to see that after all these years, Raimi hasn't lost his touch. There were moments where you can see where his hands were tied to Marvel, but they ultimately let him do his thing and all of the cast from Cumberbatch, to Olsen, to Gomez, to McAdams all pulled their weight.

My only real gripe is that I felt that Scarlet Witch was overpowered just a tad, but it still was a thrilling film. The combined efforts of the cast, Waldron, Raimi and Feige made this stellar.

Looked so good on IMAX too.

IMMA go to the Cinemark XD and maybe save 3D for later. There's an 85' wide screen there and I think that's the way to go.

 

[Mr.T]

I gave it a 7/10. Overall it was a good movie and very entertaining with Sam Raimi’s name written all over it. I did have a few problems with the movie, especially the illuminati scenes. That entire part of the movie felt very shoe horned in. More so than the first Spider-Man scenes in Civil War. Still though, it’s a very entertaining addition to the MCU.
I’ve seen some mentions of Thor the Dark World, and no way does this movie fall that low. Darcy was the most annoying character ever written into any Marvel Movie, and maybe even all time. She gives JarJar a run for his money.

 

[sdgrandia86]

Deleted because I didn't tag spoiler. How do you tag spoilers?

 

[GREEN =w= DAY]

I give this movie a solid 8

I enjoyed it way more than the first Doctor Strange movie. America Chavez was an excellent addition, I liked her more in the movie than what I’ve seen from the comics. It was nice to see Christine have a more substantial, though smaller role.

I feel the movie could have been about 10-15 min longer, there were certain scenes that could have been fleshed out a bit more. Goes without saying that the Illuminati scene could have been more epic, but it served its purpose in showing just how powerful and dangerous Wanda had become

The movie was definitely Raimi’s style, I liked how it had some creepy/horror vibes thrown in. Also liked Elfman’s score

 

[sdgrandia86]

10/10

Saw In The Multiverse of Army of Darkness for a second time and I was able to appreciate it much more.

Spoiler: Spolier

The combination of VFX and practical, effects and costume design was on point. Shuma Gorath looked beautiful - loved the attention to detail from the runes covering him to his "lips/mouth," happy we got two Kaiju size monsters in Starro (Suicide Sqaud) and Shuma in a year span.

Deadite Strange looked great from the prosthetics, his walking and maneuverability when opening the portal and him being surrounded then controlling and using the souls of the damned was so cool - those things and their voices were straight out of Army of Darkness. Loved his entrance when he knocked Wanda's minions off the cliff.

The opening sequence in NY was beautiful and got me teary eyed. It had that yellow/golden tint that reminded me of his Spidey films. He manages to capture NY in such a unique way; very vibrantly and uses the background and people to enahnce and bring the city to life.

616 Strange entrance as he goes to investigate the commotion, America getting stuck on the ledge and kicking it onto Shuma Gorath and that shot of the scretary screaming along with Elfmans score and the before mentioned color palette was very reminisce of his work on the Tobey movies and made me realize how much I missed Raimi in the super hero world.

I also thought Wong fight against Shuma was very well choreographed, really cool use of the kuneai spear and the magic sword was just bad ass.

Possession - Scarlet Witch possessing Wanda was full on Evil Dead 2, love the silence as the camera creeps in and stalks Wanda and the kids, the lights dangling around, the picture frame, the ocean in the cup of tea and peas moving around the plate all create this uneasy feeling building to Wanda meeting the Witch through the reflection. I was half expecting a deer head to start laughing.

By comparison, the 2nd time she gets possessed had that fast paced camera work knocking through the window, and then knocking the dominos possessing Wanda once again.

This was also seen in the Siege of Kamartaj as the Witch searched for Chavez - Raimi once again uses silence and natural effects (water) to create tension in a way many can't or fail. Again, the sudden doors shutting, the sound design, the eye in the water, and the way the Witch emerges from the reflection and the way her body twisted and reformed was full on Evil Dead/Drag Me To Hell.

616 Strange vs Darkhold Supreme Strange fight was pretty awesome and unique; loved the song battle between them to what I believe had some Beethoven 5th in there. The visuals and use of magic was unsual, unique and very much the perfect Raimi/Elfman pairing.

Loved the practical effects of 616 Strange using the Darkhold and all the candles closing around him.

The scene between Strange, Chavez and Mordo talking about Dreamwalking with overimposed images of the Witch performing the spell with the vibrant red colors, candles and that music was *chefs kiss* sexy!

Wanda - that dream sequence with the kids did a really good job at eatablishing her as a sympathetic character and her relationship with her kids for those that didn't see Wandavision. Those kids are just adorable and am happy they made it to the big screen. Hearing the theme for WV, my favorite of the netflix shows, was a bittersweet.

Wanda has become my favorite character in the MCU facing adveristy and overcoming tragedy after tragedy. I was hoping this film would put her on a a road of redemption and happiness under the guidance of Strange but the film did a good job at painting her tragic and sad story, not evil but corrupted, and redeeming her in the end. Hoping we see her return and reunited with her grown and fully powered kids along with the help she needs. She deserves it.

Writing all of this without mentioning the Illuminati or the transitions accross the multiverse is a testament of how strong the movie really is as it's own without the need of gimmicks - of course it plays a part but the cameos were the cherry on top for me.

I loved seeing Black Bolt on his comic accurate costume; the show did the Inhumans dirty and hope they get another shot; Reed was played very well, full of wisdom abd grace and hope we get more of Krasinsky as Reed, Captain Carter was pretty cool, Captain Marvel was forgetable, and seeing Patrick Stewart on the yellow wheelchair with the X Men cartoon them playing was nostalgic. Always full of hope and seeing the best in humanity, loved the use of the quote.

Great scene and death when he entered Wanda mind and got his neck snapped. Still, Black Bolt death takes the number one spot; his death was brutal; followed by Captain Carter and impaled Strange.

I was expecting more cameos and more exploration of the multiverse but am glad with what we got. I think the cameos we got served their purpose and introduced the concept of realities collapsing (the term escapes me) As much as I would have loved seeing Ghost Rider, Tobey Spidey and Deadpool, adding more cameos would have been distracting and dilute the film upseting the fans of those characters. Perhaps they could have been added during the multiverse travel sequence as it was beautiful but a bit short. That will probably be explored in a Battleworld/Secret Wars type of movie. Anyway, I'm happy with what we got.

Great cameo by Bruce and one my favorite end credits scene - pretty much the Evil Dead/AoD gag - love the humor and find it funny how upset some people are getting over it considering Caps patience end credits scene.

Loved the reflection trap in Kamertaj and the scene in Wandas farm as it turns a brautiful orchard field into a red wasteland.

The use of humor was subtle and on point; it didn't distract from the film.

The romance subplot was also on point, short, sweet and mature.

Cons

- No deer head laughing and screaming "Swallow your soul."
- Was hoping for a necronomicon or Ash cameo

But those are superficial and just self imposed expectations that didn't take anything out of the movie we got.

- I do think adding Paul Bettany as the father/husband in the Illuminati world would have enhanced and added more depth, tragedy and sadness; and motivation to a corrupted Witch.

Only thing I don't get is that Wanda is described as Nexus being so shouldn't she be unique accross the multiverse just like Chavez?

The movie just showed how flawed and messy NWH is and the disservice they did to Strange.

In the end, it was one of the best movies experiences. It felt like a Sam Raimi movie with Doctor Strange in it and as a fan of horror and comics I was very pleased with how the worlds merged - let's not forget Blade played around with it first. Hope Marvel gives directors more control as it didn't feel like it had the Marvel lenses and had more of Raimi style much like GotG and Ragnarok with Gunn and Taika. Hoping for more Raimi in the supernatural world.

Definitely up there with Spider Man 2, XMen 2, Days of Future Past, Logan, Deadpool and The Batman.

 

[ZenTheAvenger]

I really enjoyed it and loved the horror vibes. Raimi brought his A game.

Not top tier MCU but definitely a good film and enjoyable too. Loved the multiverse aspects and can't wait for them to be explored further over the coming years.

I'd go 7.5/10.

 

[scarlet-witch]

I gave it a 5. The only thing saving this for me was Cumberbatch and Olsen's performances, and Raimi's directing style. As a Wanda fan who loved Wandavision and was ready to see her as a hero and move on from her never ending cycle of grief, this felt like a huge slap in the face.

I'm incredibly bummed because I loved the idea of Strange and Wanda together when this was first announced, and it's like they did the exact opposite of what I wanted.