The Amazing Spider-Man Does anyone else get an empty feeling from this movie?

[Nathan]

I didn't have a problem with the cranes but the American flag was a little 'too' on the nose.

I have to admit, this time I didn't notice the flag. Was too focused on Spider-Man. It probably helped that it didn't fill out the screen like in Spider-Man 3.

And honestly, in the first 2 Movies I never noticed the flag too much either. It's only Spider-Man 3, that had me roll my eyes so hard, they almost fell out.

I didn't have a problem with the cranes , but then again I didn't have a problem with the New Yorkers wanting to come to Spiderman's aid or rally behind him in the Raimi films either. Its pretty much the same though , Raimi got flack for it as being cheesy , while Webb gets a pass for it...but whatever. It was an ok sequence.

I admit the crane scene is cheesy, but I think it helped greatly that you didn't have civilians spout cheesy lines to the villain.

 

[spider-neil]

I have to admit, this time I didn't notice the flag. Was too focused on Spider-Man. It probably helped that it didn't fill out the screen like in Spider-Man 3.

And honestly, in the first 2 Movies I never noticed the flag too much either. It's only Spider-Man 3, that had me roll my eyes so hard, they almost fell out.



I admit the crane scene is cheesy, but I think it helped greatly that you didn't have civilians spout cheesy lines to the villain.

Cheese done well is good imho. It's a superhero movie and as such shouldn't take themselves too seriously *cough* Nolan *cough*

 

[Gianakin_]

You know, it's as if people forget that Nolan has lots of humour in his movies (good or bad is up to debate). I don't get it. Do people really not pay attention?

 

[El Payaso]

I didn't have a problem with the cranes , but then again I didn't have a problem with the New Yorkers wanting to come to Spiderman's aid or rally behind him in the Raimi films either. Its pretty much the same though , Raimi got flack for it as being cheesy , while Webb gets a pass for it...but whatever. It was an ok sequence.

I have said it myself: it is the same. But I give Webb a pass as new yorkers helping Spider-man weren'¡t a bunch appearing magically shouting stuff like "Leave Spider-Man alone! You're gonna pick on a guy trying to save a bunch of kids?" "Yeah, I got something for your ass! You mess with Spidey, you mess with New York!" "You mess with one of us, you mess with all of us."

In ASM it was all well explained. But if you want to know I gave Raimi a free pass for the scene where new yorkers helped Spider-man in SM2, and that scene was not without cheese either.

You know, it's as if people forget that Nolan has lots of humour in his movies (good or bad is up to debate). I don't get it. Do people really not pay attention?

I specially remember the "Nice coat" which ruined Batman's introduction and the way Scarecrow was defeated which finished ruined the character. But BB had stupid stuff like the toll guy watching the batmobile and then looking at his cup of coffee, performing the "huh? what did I put in my coffee?" routine. How old is that joke, like 150 years now?

 

[Drummerdude7]

You know, it's as if people forget that Nolan has lots of humour in his movies (good or bad is up to debate). I don't get it. Do people really not pay attention?

But....there's gritty realism....and darkness.

....so much darkness.....

 

[Jick]

I'll admit I felt this kind of empty feeling after I watched. But it is gone. Actually, I want to watch it again.

When I look back at what it did right, I like the movie more than I did before.

 

[El Payaso]

But....there's gritty realism....and darkness.

....so much darkness.....

 

[Jick]

The general audience loved the crane scene, at least from what I gather on youtube and facebook.

So did I. It was my favorite scene in the movie.
There's some level of cheesiness to it, but it was well executed and the music behind it only made it more climatic.

 

[Radioactive1980]

People keep talking about the cheesiness of the cranes scene in TASM, but I didn't find that cheesy at all. It made sense.

You want to talk cheese?- the bit were Peter webs Gwen's hip, spins her into his arms and kisses her.... I almost cringed to death in my seat.

 

[Drummerdude7]

People keep talking about the cheesiness of the cranes scene in TASM, but I didn't find that cheesy at all. It made sense.

You want to talk cheese?- the bit were Peter webs Gwen's hip, spins her into his arms and kisses her.... I almost cringed to death in my seat.

REALLY?!?!?!

I loved that.....

 

[Schlosser85]

What was cheesy about that? That's totally something a guy would do trying to impress a girl.

 

[Drummerdude7]

What was cheesy about that? That's totally something a guy would do trying to impress a girl.

Not only that, but there's the awkwardness and romantic tension between the two of them that had been building 'til that point, and Peter gets so worked up that he's essentially goes "f**k it" and puts everything on the table....and it pays off. You can even see the cheeky, almost bad-boy like grin on his face after...like he's saying "yes, it worked!"

 

[El Payaso]

People keep talking about the cheesiness of the cranes scene in TASM, but I didn't find that cheesy at all. It made sense.

You want to talk cheese?- the bit were Peter webs Gwen's hip, spins her into his arms and kisses her.... I almost cringed to death in my seat.

What could possibly be cheesey about that?

 

[chaseter]

Yeah it was okay. Here are the unforgivable cheesey moments:

- ripping off the girl's dress on the subway. Now how old is that joke? Haha BEWBS!

- the dunk. It was just over the top. Nobody questioned how he can dunk from farther than the likes of NBA players? He then breaks the backboard and what does he get in trouble for?....humiliating Flash hahaha.

- Flash bullying the kid with everyone standing around chanting. Really? There was a girl extra right behind Garfield whose face was crazy!

- the football goal post bending. This one probably is the worst of them all. It's just bewilderingly stupid. The others I can sort of forgive but this one...no.

- cops lined up somehow on the rooftops shooting at Spider-Man while a giant lizard attacks OSCORP. How did the cops know which rooftops to be on? That one is less cheese and more wtf!?

 

[optimus2861]

You want to talk cheese?- the bit were Peter webs Gwen's hip, spins her into his arms and kisses her.... I almost cringed to death in my seat.

I've been reading Spider-Man comics for most of my life, watched the cartoons, watched the movies.. at that moment, I had no idea who the hell I was watching. It wasn't any Peter Parker I've ever seen before. Revealing his secret ID to a girl he barely knew so he could score a makeout session with her?

I think that was my tipping point. I had a lot harder time with the movie after that, and I can't rank this film above any of the others save SM3. And even SM3 had its good parts that I'll watch again. I'm really not sure I'll watch TASM again.

 

[Radioactive1980]

Yeah it was okay. Here are the unforgivable cheesey moments:

- ripping off the girl's dress on the subway. Now how old is that joke? Haha BEWBS!

- the dunk. It was just over the top. Nobody questioned how he can dunk from farther than the likes of NBA players? He then breaks the backboard and what does he get in trouble for?....humiliating Flash hahaha.

- Flash bullying the kid with everyone standing around chanting. Really? There was a girl extra right behind Garfield whose face was crazy!

- the football goal post bending. This one probably is the worst of them all. It's just bewilderingly stupid. The others I can sort of forgive but this one...no.

- cops lined up somehow on the rooftops shooting at Spider-Man while a giant lizard attacks OSCORP. How did the cops know which rooftops to be on? That one is less cheese and more wtf!?

Agree, these two incidents were just so dumb and out of character.
They just totally disrespected the comicbook.
Pete would never have shown off his powers like that because in the real world that is how you would get found out.

PS- What did you mean by that girls face being 'crazy'?

 

[Jick]

I liked the scene in the train. I agree about football goal post bending, though.
I thought they would leave that out of the final cut of the movie.

 

[Drummerdude7]

Yeah it was okay. Here are the unforgivable cheesey moments:

- ripping off the girl's dress on the subway. Now how old is that joke? Haha BEWBS!

- the dunk. It was just over the top. Nobody questioned how he can dunk from farther than the likes of NBA players? He then breaks the backboard and what does he get in trouble for?....humiliating Flash hahaha.

- Flash bullying the kid with everyone standing around chanting. Really? There was a girl extra right behind Garfield whose face was crazy!

- the football goal post bending. This one probably is the worst of them all. It's just bewilderingly stupid. The others I can sort of forgive but this one...no.

- cops lined up somehow on the rooftops shooting at Spider-Man while a giant lizard attacks OSCORP. How did the cops know which rooftops to be on? That one is less cheese and more wtf!?

While I didn't mind the basketball scene, the goal post scene was cringeworthy for me as well. I woulda rather him just caught the football while kissing Gwen. It's smooth, shows his spider sense, and there's no over the top "look I have super strength" that he shows off in front of his peers.

 

[Flemm]

What was cheesy about that? That's totally something a guy would do trying to impress a girl.

I don't think it was too cheesy, really, but I do think it's another sign of some issues with Peter's character arc.

As you say, it's something you would do to impress the girl: see, look, I'm cool, I have powers. Also: I'm the bad boy your father doesn't like. Same thing with humiliating Flash in front of everyone. Given Uncle Ben's reprimand, Peter should learn a lesson from this, but instead Gwen shows up and they flirt some more. So, mission accomplished? Who cares what the old man thinks when the girl of your dreams shows as much or more interest in you after you start acting like a dick than before?

The movie can't decide whether this is supposed to be about Peter learning responsability, or Peter getting the girl because he is an attractive bad boy this time around.

A little of both, I guess? Meh.

Similarly, I thought the scenes with Aunt May were not handled very coherently. There's the one where he forgets the eggs, the one where he is severely beat up and she is understandably very upset ("Where have you been?"), and then the one at the end where he remembers the eggs. The problem here is that, after seeing Peter beat up like that, the eggs don't matter. No responsable parent is going to say, ok, he remembered the eggs this time, everything must be fine now. What about the time where he was severely injured and apparently was assaulted?!?!?!

 

[bapi]

If there wasn't Andrew and Emma but somebody like Josh Hutcherson and Imogen Poots... I'm sure it would be the worst Spider-Man movie yet. My rating is 6.5/10 but without them it would be 4/10 or so. Sorry, I'm honest.

 

[El Payaso]

Yeah it was okay. Here are the unforgivable cheesey moments:

- ripping off the girl's dress on the subway. Now how old is that joke? Haha BEWBS!

That is a cheesey moment. In SM1 it was supposed to be funny that a fork and some piece of paper got stuck to Peter's hand. Suddenly this is "unforgivable"?

- the dunk. It was just over the top. Nobody questioned how he can dunk from farther than the likes of NBA players? He then breaks the backboard and what does he get in trouble for?....humiliating Flash hahaha.

Again, SM1. Peter all of a sudden beats 2 or 3 guys (one of them Flash) and the whole school is in front of him, watching (MJ and Harry included) Peter even some incredible jumps and ounches Flash 10 meters away.

And no. Nobody noticed. Even when Spider-man appears a few days later.

And what does he get in trouble for?....humiliating Flash hahaha.

- Flash bullying the kid with everyone standing around chanting. Really? There was a girl extra right behind Garfield whose face was crazy!

That's how bullying works. And that's how mass behaviour works too.

I didn't see everybody trying to stop Flash and his friend when he was trying to punch Peter in SM1 either.

- the football goal post bending. This one probably is the worst of them all. It's just bewilderingly stupid. The others I can sort of forgive but this one...no.

When does this happen?

- cops lined up somehow on the rooftops shooting at Spider-Man while a giant lizard attacks OSCORP. How did the cops know which rooftops to be on? That one is less cheese and more wtf!?

New Yorkers know where Spider-man is. That's why they carry sticks and stones, to throw them at Spider-man's enbemy right when iut's needed, remember?

Agree, these two incidents were just so dumb and out of character.
They just totally disrespected the comicbook.
Pete would never have shown off his powers like that because in the real world that is how you would get found out.

You can also show off displaying your powers by punching Flash in front of everyone in your school. No matter if it's Mary Jane or your old pal Harry. They will never put two and two together. And this is after everyone saw food trays attached to your hands by spider-webs, go figure.

So it seems that in Spider-man's world people don't deduce things easily.

You can go to a wrestling match, show your powers, show your face to the owner, let him know you're called "Spider-man", then let a muggler escape with the owner's money so he really hate you. Then you can start a superhero career as Spider-man (the same and with the same powers the wresting place's owner knows).

But in spite of having all the information and the motivation, the owner of the wrestling place won't do anything.

That said, doing a slam dunk is humanly possible. Punching Flash like that and jumping in the air like that is not.

 

[Flemm]

That is a cheesey moment. In SM1 it was supposed to be funny that a fork and some piece of paper got stuck to Peter's hand. Suddenly this is "unforgivable"?

Different movies, different tone, different moment in time. Tastes change. Audiences react differently. More/better comic book movies have been made since then.

If Raimi's Spiderman were released now, it would doubtless be received differently, and probably not as well. But it wasn't released now, it was released then, and connected with audiences in a big way at that moment in time.

This movie, while not bad at all in many respects, does not make that type of connection and will not have that type of impact because it doesn't do anything new and is very derivative of movies that *did* do new things and *did* have that type of impact (Raimi's movie being one of those).

Pointing out that this movie does a lot of the same things as Raimi's movie, but people didn't have a problem with it back then, is just another way of stating the problem with this movie. It's not so big a problem that it ruins TASM, which is still an enjoyable movie, but it does limit the success it will have (I think, in all probability).

 

[Jexx]

I don't know if you guys noticed, but in the scene where Peter throws the football that bends the goal post, the players were all wondering were it came from and how it happened.

Also, I don't think that Peter meant to bend the goal post :P

 

[Silvermoth]

Yeah. I got the empty feeling alright. It was about halfway in the middle of the movie when I realised I wasn't enjoying myself. I came to see Spider-man and they gave me the Amazing Bat Spider-man.

 

[Troy_Parker]

After looking at a few pages of this thread, I think it's safe to say people no longer have any idea what "cheese" means. Maybe that's from the Raimi bashers raping that word... or maybe it's just plain ole' stupidity.