The Amazing Spider-Man Does anyone else get an empty feeling from this movie?

[El Payaso]

Actually Harry swearing revenge on Spiderman was a plot that organically opened at the end of the movie. TASM offered plots at the very beginning and middle of the movie that were never resolved.

Same thing. Except for the convenient use of the word "organic."

Because Harry's revenge didn't solve until SM3, which means there was a whole movie with the issue unsolved.

You don't solve everything right away. It's the way trilogies work and you know it.

 

[Jexx]

Except the original Spider-Man trilogy wasn't planned as a trilogy..

 

[AF3619]

Except the original Spider-Man trilogy wasn't planned as a trilogy..

but they knew they will get sequels

 

[El Payaso]

Except the original Spider-Man trilogy wasn't planned as a trilogy..

Yeah, but since X-Men (2000) they were constantly introducing themes and plots that were not supposed to be solved within the movie. Now, trilogies are even better so they won't make this mistake of trying to over-stretch everything like Raimi started to do. SM3 should have been the end, with MJ and Peter married instead of the constant 'we're good-we're not' game.

 

[Jexx]

I'm still confused why the police didn't have suspects on who Spider-Man was due to how often MJ got taken hostage.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

but they knew they will get sequels

Heard it was planned a 6 parter

 

[Stringer]

You're stuck too much on Harry. He's a secondary character so he had limited screentime.

What if there is no sequel to this movie? Would everyone be upset we didn't get a complete story then?

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Not secondary, he was one of the main centric characters throughout the trilogy

 

[Jexx]

Sony already have a sequel planned.

but if there still is no sequel? I would be upset we didn't get a complete story, yes, but I wouldn't blame it on the people who made the movie. They made the movie with a sequel in mind.

Not to mention, if there was no sequel to this movie, there would still be more Spider-Man films.

 

[El Payaso]

You're stuck too much on Harry. He's a secondary character so he had limited screentime.

He was absolutely central to the story of Peter.

And please, don't divert from the fact that the old franchise - as much as Nolan's Batman movies, X-men, Hulk, Thor and hell, etc, etc, even Superman the movie back in the day - presented plots that weren't solved during the course of the movie itself.

What if there is no sequel to this movie? Would everyone be upset we didn't get a complete story then?

Yeah, let's be pre-angry at a movie because of what hypotetically could por could not happen in 3 years.

 

[pickleweed]

i would chime in, but payaso seems to be holding it down pretty well.

 

[Jexx]

Aww.. I can't handle anything yet?

 

[Stringer]

Other movies have done it no doubt but I can't remember a movie doing it so blatantly in the first installment of a franchise. And like I said, I like it when a movie can stand on it's own and doesn't NEED sequels to finish off the previous movie.

 

[The Guard]

You all realize its possible for a creative effort to have both good and bad points, right?

That an entire franchise hasn’t “failed” just because it didn’t get one element faithful?

At least Raimi's Peter "allowed" a man to die before he became Spiderman. Webb's Peter breaks promises to protect his girlfriend AFTER he learned his lesson about being a hero.

That’s because…he has more than one lesson to learn in his life. He hasn’t learned the importance of both sides of him having power.

"I should use this power to be a hero” isn’t the end all be all of being a hero.

It feels like people want Peter Parker to be Clark Kent, with Superman’s morals. He’s not. He never has been.

 

[AbsractPo3tic]

You all realize its possible for a creative effort to have both good and bad points, right?

That an entire franchise hasn’t “failed” just because it didn’t get one element faithful?



That’s because…he has more than one lesson to learn in his life. He hasn’t learned the importance of both sides of him having power.

"I should use this power to be a hero” isn’t the end all be all of being a hero.

It feels like people want Peter Parker to be Clark Kent, with Superman’s morals. He’s not. He never has been.

THANK YOU! Geez, like he's still a kid. He's 17 freaking years old, and no offense to anyone here 17 or younger, but at that age, you're still growing and figuring things out. You're going to make mistakes. Period. And Peter has made plenty of mistakes in the comics, no matter what age he is. It's one thing to say "with great power comes great responsibility" but there's a reason Peter keeps learning that lesson over and over and keeps finding out the depth of it as the years go on. If he isn't fallible, where is the character growth?

 

[El Payaso]

Other movies have done it no doubt but I can't remember a movie doing it so blatantly in the first installment of a franchise. And like I said, I like it when a movie can stand on it's own and doesn't NEED sequels to finish off the previous movie.

Fantastic. So you hate about every superhero franchise out there. Except the Burton/Schumacher Batman one.

 

[Jexx]

I actually felt like the movie stood on it's own, regardless of the fact that it leaves two plot-threads hanging.

 

[Supa]

I actually felt like the movie stood on it's own, regardless of the fact that it leaves two plot-threads hanging.

It felt good on it's own, but it's pretty obvious they were setting up a sequel.

 

[Jexx]

that's practically what I said :/

 

[Just one more]

Fantastic. So you hate about every superhero franchise out there. Except the Burton/Schumacher Batman one.

Please give examples of how every superhero franchise have left major plot points unresolved.

 

[El Payaso]

Please give examples of how every superhero franchise have left major plot points unresolved.

Please watch every superhero movie out there.

But I mentioned some in SM1 and SM2 one or two pages ago.

 

[Just one more]

Please watch every superhero movie out there.

But I mentioned some in SM1 and SM2 one or two pages ago.

Went back 5 pages and nothing there from you at all so I will ask again, please list some examples.

Oh, if it happens in every superhero movie like you said it should take you about 20 seconds to list just a few of them for me.

 

[El Payaso]

Went back 5 pages and nothing there from you at all so I will ask again, please list some examples.

Oh, if it happens in every superhero movie like you said it should take you about 20 seconds to list just a few of them for me.

Kryptonian villiains in Superman.
Banner controlling Hulk at the end and Betty being separated from him.
Joker card at the end of BB, and Arkham immates on the loose.
Batman as a fugitive, with Gordon and him lying to everyone at the end of TDK.
Thor and Jane separated with the BiFrost destroyed. And Loki didn't die.
Captain America waking up 70 years later.
Well, all the post-credit scenes of Marvel movies are unfinished plots left for sequels.

And this is what i said about SM1 and SM2:
"...if a Spider-man movie ended with Harry swearing revenge against Spider-man, not knowing he's his best friend, Peter kissing MJ, who now suspects Peter is Spider-man, or Norman coming back from death and asking his son to avenge him. Nothing of which happened in the movies themselves but were to happen in the sequels."

and a long etc.

EDIT:

Oh, and Lord of teh Rings and Harry Potter movies.

Yes, both LOTR and ASM are trilogies. Trilogies don't solve everything in the first movie.

 

[©KAW]

Exactly, it makes perfect common sense to me.

It's like you have to explain the obvious to a bunch of ******s. Do people NOT know how trilogies work?

 

[Jexx]

Triloception