Logan Does the events of "Logan" ruin "Days of Future Past" for you?

[Infinity9999x]

Honestly, worrying about time lines and such just seem silly to me. Especially since, with Logan, you could easily view this the same as you would the comic story of Old Man Logan, or The Dark Knight Returns; a cool elseworlds detailing the character at the end of their days. Or you can imagine it as part of the time line.

It's never been an issue while reading comics before. Why is it suddenly one while watching this film?

 

[DACrowe]

No, for as I expected the movie was more ambiguous than folks were expecting or rumors made out.

It turns out that Charles [blackout]killed only two or three X-Men. The radio, as I recall, said he killed seven people, several of whom were X-Men, which puts it down to a rather small amount of a team that by the 2020s encompasses dozens of heroes. We also don't know WHO died.[/blackout]

The X-Men could still exist, it's just Xavier is lying low, and maybe the X-team is as well. But that happens in the comics, and those who didn't die could regroup. This is not a permanent end to the X-Men or mutants, just the characters we are following.

I view it as continuity until a film actually contradicts it. Otherwise, Fox is just playing fast and loose in case fans get mad, but since the movie is great I doubt that they really will.

 

[DACrowe]

Yes it does. When you watch Supernova sometime in the future, do you think Xavier will have a long healthy life and would die due to old age and his beloved X-Men would be there until last breath, upon seeing Logan? I guess not.

Could you not enjoy Rogue One even though you knew they were going to succeed at getting the plans?

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

I'd say... not really. Because now I know both timelines end in failure and now I want to see Cable come along and start a new timeline.

I'll be honest, I don't really buy the 2029 thing. I would have said mid 2030s. Logan and Charles are *substantially* older than in the ending to DoFP. 10 years minimum. And how many mutants died off in the course of only 6 years? Nah. No way. That would be hundreds of millions of deaths a year. The economy would collapse. Things would be in chaos for the humans too. I say it happened way slower. 2035-ish. The radio talk show was a recording. Logan is ~200 years old. Charles is ~100.

Which means DoFP bought the planet about 20 years of peace. And mutant-kind saved humanity from themselves. Pretty poetic.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I wanna say that this is a branched off story of the main universe. It takes place in the New main timeline, but it's an elseworlds story.

 

[titansupes]

I don't know how to think of it yet. It's a strange sense of whiplash going from the happy ending of DoFP to what happens in this one.

 

[SAUspartan]

X-Men universe has time travel so no it doesnt ruin anything.

 

[Smilodon]

Yeah, doesn't ruin anything at all. The film makes it clear they're not all gone, and the DOFP ending would've been null without Logan anyways thanks to Cable. Or another film set in the future. Something else would've just come along.

 

[By your Command]

I don't feel it ruins everything first and foremost because DoFP at the end established a multiverse, there are multiple realities according to what happened in the past for all we know this is the Last Stand continuity not the corrected timeline. Secondly because the X-Men movies are much like their comic books, some respect continuity, some don't, there are standalones, yada yada yada. So for me it's basically a beautifully acted story by two great X-men actors, and this is how they wanted their story to end, personally I'll wait to see what happens in the next movies to come, and I'll decide how to accommodate this story and how it all fits.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Nope, doesn't ruin that ending for me at all. As others said Cable time travelling will change some things anyway.

 

[Drexelhand]

No, what you don't get is some people view these X-Men films as a string of films, a film series basically. It might be okay to you, but for the audience, it won't be. And this series has a history of underperforming prequels and another movie undermining the stakes of more prequels to come is not good.

Yes, because the audience is clearly indicative of your tastes.

I've already disproved your underperforming prequel theory, which you never bothered responding to but I have to ask, do you get pleasure out of coming in wholly negative into a thread just to bash the series? At this point, people can guess what you're going to say when they see your avatar and it usually goes something like "But muh original cast... something something something underperforming prequel". We get it. You don't like the series, how about you try to add something constructive to the situation and if you believe you are, try rephrasing it because nobody else is seeing it that way.

 

[Binker]

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Logan is non-canon.

 

[ciscostudent561]

How u know it's not

 

[Mr.T]

Nah. DOFP is my top X movie, but I never thought Logan ruined any of it for me. I "try" to believe it takes place significantly after........

 

[Binker]

How u know it's not

Non-canon

 

[rebellion]

Non-canon

 

[Binker]

Hey!...

Dudes, come on...

 

[Herolee10]

So FOX is telling me that the only way for his dystopian like future to once again be altered, we may have to rely on the likes of Deadpool and Cable?

 

[Binker]

So FOX is telling me that the only way for his dystopian like future to once again be altered, we may have to rely on the likes of Deadpool and Cable?

I was thinking this too, but it could be a simple retcon. I don't think Wolverine is in Supernova, and recent interviews proves this so. But the next X-Men movie after that, maybe even X-Force, yes there will be a new actor cast as Wolverine. From then on, a soft reboot that is not replying on previous film's continuity or story arcs, including how they were resolved (i.e. Logan), is the direction they're going.

 

[Mutant 77]

The problem with the revised timeline is that the ending of 'Days of Future Past' cannot possibly coexist with the storyline of 'Logan'. The former ends in a happy 2023 where all the mutants (well, the good guys anyway) are alive and well. Logan states that no mutants have been born since 2004 which means those little kids running around Charles' school wouldn't exist in the first place.

 

[Herolee10]

When it comes to the films in the X-Men Men universe, they have never been great at following the dates established in other films. I mean in the first X MEN film, Professor X said that he met Magneto when he was 17 but First Class said otherwise.

 

[Herolee10]

I was thinking this too, but it could be a simple retcon. I don't think Wolverine is in Supernova, and recent interviews proves this so. But the next X-Men movie after that, maybe even X-Force, yes there will be a new actor cast as Wolverine. From then on, a soft reboot that is not replying on previous film's continuity or story arcs, including how they were resolved (i.e. Logan), is the direction they're going.

Whether it be X Force or some future version of the X MEN, I just hope that if Deadpool gets involved with them that it doesn't mean that those films will automatically become like Deadpool's film when it comes to the level of gore, language, and content that goes along with his character.

 

[ciscostudent561]

The problem with the revised timeline is that the ending of 'Days of Future Past' cannot possibly coexist with the storyline of 'Logan'. The former ends in a happy 2023 where all the mutants (well, the good guys anyway) are alive and well. Logan states that no mutants have been born since 2004 which means those little kids running around Charles' school wouldn't exist in the first place.

It's

 

[Legendver2]

The problem with the revised timeline is that the ending of 'Days of Future Past' cannot possibly coexist with the storyline of 'Logan'. The former ends in a happy 2023 where all the mutants (well, the good guys anyway) are alive and well. Logan states that no mutants have been born since 2004 which means those little kids running around Charles' school wouldn't exist in the first place.

Bro, just blame Barry

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

blame Barry

Foh