DTL Season 5-Week 7 (Set 2)

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Who? vs. Last Chancers: Who?'s lineup is gonna overpower the crap outta the Chancers.
Nameless Wonders vs. Mistress Gluon: Maybe I just know the characters better, but I have to give this one to the Wonders on lineup strength as well.

 

Who? vs. Last Chancers
Nameless Wonders vs. Mistress Gluon - the all DC line up would give them a huge disadvantage imo

 

Starhawk can at least keep Hal Jordan occupied while Overmind floors Hulk with a psi-blast. I've seen Moondragon psi-blast him into unconciousness fairly easily, so I'd think Overmind could do it. After that, Overmind helps Starhawk against Hal. I believe telepathy has been used effectively against Hal Jordan before, in which case he'd have big problems with Overmind. Meanwhile, the last chancers don't even have a medium and their regs would get crushed by Doom 2099. Who? wins.

As for the other battle -- Hyperion is basically a Marvel Superman, and in Superman vs. Flash I give Superman the edge. That said, Flash would be damn hard to hit and could pull out some tricks that might floor him (e.g., infinite mass punch), but still, Superman could always use his flight to stay out of range. (I'm assuming a battle with characters of this level would stray somewhat onto the Xavier grounds rather than just the mansion interior.) Silver Surfer likewise could stay airborne and rain down energy blasts on his foes. He'd also be able to resist Fernus's telepathy. (He's resisted Moondragon with the Mind Gem in the same mini-series where she psi-blasted Xavier into unconsciousness -- so she was clearly above Xavier and thus presumably above Fernus in raw telepathic power.) That puts Fernus at a big disadvantage, and eventually I think he'd fall to Surfer's superior energy projection. (Fernus could try to telepathically turn Hyperion against Surfer -- but good luck focussing on that when Surfer is frying you with cosmic energy.) After that, I think Surfer and Hyperion together find a way to beat Flash. For instance, I bet Surfer could use his power to reverse gravity or something, which would disrupt Flash's ability to run and make him a much easier target. (I'm not sure if Surfer's ever reversed gravity, but he probably has some kind of trick like that. He can muck with time and space and energy in all sorts of ways.) And even though I think the Nameless Wonders' regs might have the edge on Mistress Gluon's, none of them are beating Surfer either. So my vote goes to Mistress Gluon.

 

Wait, wait, you always refer to that time Flash and Zoom moved so fast Superman appeared to be standing still. Combine THAT level of superior speed with an infinite mass punch and Hyperion is SO out of the ballgame.

 

That was after Flash borrowed speed from other speedsters to match Zoom. Which is part of why I consider Zoom superior despite a lack of speedforce tricks -- he moves that fast to start with.

My impression is that Flash at his natural speed is still faster than Superman, but not so much that Superman would have no chance of landing an attack. And even a glancing attack from Superman/Hyperion could be fairly deadly to Flash.

Anyway, the deciding factor in this battle for me wasn't Hyperion so much as Silver Surfer. He's telepathy resistant and extremely durable, so Fernus can't do much against him. And he can fly and rain down energy blasts from outside Flash's reach (since Flash of course can't fly) -- so I don't really see the Nameless Wonders having much of an answer for him.

 

Who? and Mistress Gluon.

 

Who?
Mistress Gluon

Who?'s lineup is far more robust.

I think the Wonders regs and mid could beat Gluon's. But her ubers should be able to win their fights. And I don't think the Wonder's lower characters can beat the Surfer and/or Hyperion.

 

Who?
Mistress Gluon