Rebuttle of rebuttle
Wiegeabo said:
All Exodus has to do is pretty much what Kyle did: Send a tk sphere in all directions to slam into Hadrian. Doing that would give Exodus the moment he needs to regain his senses (if the constant teleportation of someone who can already teleport does confuse him). If the sphere hits Proctor, Exodus won't really care. And once Exodus gets his tk on Hadrian, he'll have no qualms about ripping him apart. And if Hadrian can avoid the sphere by teleporting away, it gives exodus a breather and he can teleport away as well.
It's one thing if Exodus is deliberately telporting to a known location -- but when he's ported against his will, it's got to take at least a fraction of a second for him to get his bearings and figure out where he is and which way he's facing. Not a long time, just a small fraction of a second. But if Hadrian does this over and over at a fast enough rate, Exodus would
never get the chance to get his bearings. And I think Hadrian has enough of a speed advantage on Exodus to pull this off.
The fact that he's used to the physical stresses of teleportation is beside the point. He's
not used to finding himself basically spun around the room at random faster than his mind can keep up -- because when he ports himself, he
already knows where he's ending up. So self-teleporting doesn't train him for the disorientation of being ported to a random position -- and it's pretty well established that telepathy/telekinesis is the sort of power that requires you to maintain your concentration to use effectively.
As for the forcefield sphere trick, the reason I had it work on Zoom was because once Flash had Zoom
inside a large sphere and
outside a small sphere, there was no way Zoom could get out from between the two. Whereas if Hadrian sees a TK sphere expanding towards him, he could just port through to the inside of the sphere. Again, the key point is the speed difference -- Exodus can only expand the sphere as fast as he thinks, and Hadrian thinks and reacts
faster.
Ghost won't be able to use any technology in the base once Kyle sets off an EMP. Zoom wouldn't be able to get to Kyle before the EMP since Exodus will grab his mind when the fight starts. And if Hadrian tries to bring Kyle to him, the EMP will still go off, and Hadrian will take it at point blank. Even if that didn't fry his systems, Kyle has the chance to press the advantage.
Neither Exodus grabbing Zoom's mind nor Kyle realsing the EMP would happen before Zoom was battering Kyle, because Zoom is
so much faster. Even if it takes a hundredth of a second for Kyle to think "EMP", that hundredth of a second is an eternity to Zoom. Hadrian reacts a good bit faster than Kyle as well, but for Zoom it's not even close. And once Zoom's ultrafast blows are pounding him he's not going to be thinking about the EMP at all anymore, he's going to be thinking about fighting off Zoom.
I also question how effective Exodus's telepathy would be against someone who's mind is functioning at such an accelerated rate -- but more to the point, Zoom would be pounding Kyle before Exodus would have time to think the thought to stop him, and for that matter Hadrian would be attacking Exodus as well. (Hadrian's not remotely Zoom speed, but he's still faster than Exodus.)
In short: The faster team should be the one landing their attacks first, and that's my team.
I'm also not quite so sure how Kyle could fry the whole prison's tech without frying Ghost's battlesuit, and that would be illegal -- an uber attacking a reg to start the fight.
It would make more sense for Deadline (with Wanda in tow) to go after Malice. He could detect her with his enhanced senses, and phase through her forcefields. Or, at the very least, phase up from the floor beneath her inside her forcefield and take her out quickly. And sticking together helps them hold up against Ghost and Chase. And if Exodus (and Proctor) are still going, Ghost and Chase are going to be in bad shape.
I actually don't have much problem with how Kyle was handled. In that situation, I could see it playing out much the same way. Although if Deadline were to go after the Invisible Woman, she might not get the chance to stop Kyle.
I think my team is in a better position to dictate the matchups, since Hadrian can port them where they need to be. Deadline has enhanced senses but it's still going to take him a while to find an invisible person who could be anywhere in a large prison, at that gives Malice time to aid in another battle if she chooses.
