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I wish... dog sitting and a date last night kept me from IMAX this weekend. But, should be getting that in tonight or tomorrow.
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The rest of House Harkonnen probably got executed.
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I thought they were already dead by the time the movie ended. I want to know what happened to my guy (Not) Spider-Man.
Poor little guy must be starving.
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Some spoilerly thoughts and speculation after the first showing has settled.
Anyway, pretty confident that this is going to be the best Dune story of them all, if just not the most faithful.
This movie is going to be in my head for awhile.
I will say, after this movie, I fully understand why Villenueve ended the first movie where it did. It always felt a tad weird, as the taking of the name felt like the logical ending point of the first movie just based on the books. Rather than the getting the name as a triumphant part of him joining the Fremen, with a little aside of trying to change the prophecy, it helps reinforce Paul's actual fight against the Bene Gesserit planning. Which, the true believers still take a sign of the prophecy, of course. I will be so happy to see those Stilgar memes in the coming months.
I do wish that the conflict between the fundamentalists was different between the North and the South (yeah, yeah Denis, point out the US all you want), because as presented visually, it was more the elders were the religious ones, and the younger Fremen were more secular. Which I think is a more fascinating angle, if a bit more difficult to square into a story.
I absolutely adore the changes they made to Jessica, and by default, Alia. They really needed to emphasize how much the Water of Life would **** you up, change you as a person. That was not something really dealt with in the early Dune books. Here talking to Alia in womb aloud was a great choice, and Ferguson KNOCKED it out of the part, making Jessica uber creepy. And Alia, oh boy, I love it. I get it, people want a sass talking murder toddler. But Alia's role here, trying to get Paul to become the Kwisatz Haderach is more than doing Alia through the lens of Messiah. That is, in a lot of ways, a form of Alia from Children. Which given all the hints about Villenueve's view over the overall message of his Dune movies, gives me some fascinating ideas of what role Alia will be playing in Messiah. And I love that they seem to be emphasizing that she has lesser powers to Paul, but even a version of communicating with Paul like Leto and Ghani could do.
And Chani, god, I love what they did with her. Oh, it is tossing out Messiah at this point, but goddamn, I am excited she isn't going to get Padme'd. Now, don't get me wrong, certain parts of that story is still in play. Messiah implies that Paul was behind Bronso of Ix, out spoken critic of Muad'dib. And I'm fairly certain it says that Paul left the palace many times by himself. I love the idea of Chani being against Muad'dib in public, but getting private get togethers with Paul. So much more interesting than "they will remember us concubines as the real wives" sexist bull****. And honestly, it isolates Paul even more. Which, would make the introduction of the Bene Tlielax and Hayt make more sense. Please Villenueve, give me Hayt. I need that comedy of acting. I also love that Denis made Paul's nickname for Chani in the books into her hidden name. It always bugged me that Herbert set up this concept, but never gave anyone else a "hidden name", except maybe Liet Kynes.
I do wish the Spacing Guild was a bit more involved in the end. They did a good job of emphasizing on how much weaker the Emperor is compared to what you thought, with the Bene Gesserit. Should have had some stuff with the Guild in there too.
Can't wait to see it again. So many details I need to catch. A detail I missed on my first watch was how the Fremen were burning bodies in a mass pyre like the Harkonnens were doing at the start of the movie. Dune, by itself was always very much a white savior story, despite Herbert's best intentions. Here, he is not, and they make that very, very clear. I do love how Paul's decision to take the Water of Life wasn't some move out of ego, but it was a move in desperation in face of a tragedy his limited prescience did not warn him off. And I loved that they brought Jamis back.
I will say, after this movie, I fully understand why Villenueve ended the first movie where it did. It always felt a tad weird, as the taking of the name felt like the logical ending point of the first movie just based on the books. Rather than the getting the name as a triumphant part of him joining the Fremen, with a little aside of trying to change the prophecy, it helps reinforce Paul's actual fight against the Bene Gesserit planning. Which, the true believers still take a sign of the prophecy, of course. I will be so happy to see those Stilgar memes in the coming months.
I do wish that the conflict between the fundamentalists was different between the North and the South (yeah, yeah Denis, point out the US all you want), because as presented visually, it was more the elders were the religious ones, and the younger Fremen were more secular. Which I think is a more fascinating angle, if a bit more difficult to square into a story.
I absolutely adore the changes they made to Jessica, and by default, Alia. They really needed to emphasize how much the Water of Life would **** you up, change you as a person. That was not something really dealt with in the early Dune books. Here talking to Alia in womb aloud was a great choice, and Ferguson KNOCKED it out of the part, making Jessica uber creepy. And Alia, oh boy, I love it. I get it, people want a sass talking murder toddler. But Alia's role here, trying to get Paul to become the Kwisatz Haderach is more than doing Alia through the lens of Messiah. That is, in a lot of ways, a form of Alia from Children. Which given all the hints about Villenueve's view over the overall message of his Dune movies, gives me some fascinating ideas of what role Alia will be playing in Messiah. And I love that they seem to be emphasizing that she has lesser powers to Paul, but even a version of communicating with Paul like Leto and Ghani could do.
And Chani, god, I love what they did with her. Oh, it is tossing out Messiah at this point, but goddamn, I am excited she isn't going to get Padme'd. Now, don't get me wrong, certain parts of that story is still in play. Messiah implies that Paul was behind Bronso of Ix, out spoken critic of Muad'dib. And I'm fairly certain it says that Paul left the palace many times by himself. I love the idea of Chani being against Muad'dib in public, but getting private get togethers with Paul. So much more interesting than "they will remember us concubines as the real wives" sexist bull****. And honestly, it isolates Paul even more. Which, would make the introduction of the Bene Tlielax and Hayt make more sense. Please Villenueve, give me Hayt. I need that comedy of acting. I also love that Denis made Paul's nickname for Chani in the books into her hidden name. It always bugged me that Herbert set up this concept, but never gave anyone else a "hidden name", except maybe Liet Kynes.
I do wish the Spacing Guild was a bit more involved in the end. They did a good job of emphasizing on how much weaker the Emperor is compared to what you thought, with the Bene Gesserit. Should have had some stuff with the Guild in there too.
Can't wait to see it again. So many details I need to catch. A detail I missed on my first watch was how the Fremen were burning bodies in a mass pyre like the Harkonnens were doing at the start of the movie. Dune, by itself was always very much a white savior story, despite Herbert's best intentions. Here, he is not, and they make that very, very clear. I do love how Paul's decision to take the Water of Life wasn't some move out of ego, but it was a move in desperation in face of a tragedy his limited prescience did not warn him off. And I loved that they brought Jamis back.
Anyway, pretty confident that this is going to be the best Dune story of them all, if just not the most faithful.
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Austin Butler Improvised That Creepy ‘Dune 2’ Kiss and Says Stellan Skarsgård ‘Is Down for Anything. He’s the Best’
"[The kiss] with Stellan Skarsgård? Oh yeah!" Butler said when asked about improvising the moment. "He's game for anything."
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Dude kissed him so hard that he picked up his accent.
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Thank you for this gold. Watching this was a life-altering experience.
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Bennifer al gaib!
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Saw this last night and loved it. It’s going to be a hard to top this movie in 2024; it’s a triumph. I wasn’t wild about part one (it was good, but it was mostly set up and I didn’t connect with many of the characters) and I’m admittedly not the biggest fan of the books. But Denis knocked it out of the park with part two. Chalamet, Zendaya, Butler, Ferguson and Bardem were the big standouts; all of them had a ton of presence and owned their scenes. I haven’t been the biggest Chalamet fan over the years; I don’t have a problem with him but he’s never really wowed me before and some of the overexposure he’s gotten recently kind of annoyed me, but my God, he was fantastic in this. When he finally takes his place as the Lisan al Gaib, it was easy to see why the Fremen would follow him into hell. I also liked the changes they made with certain characters like Feyd and Chani; they served the story and raised the stakes of the film. I could go on and on; it’s an absolute masterpiece. 10/10
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Ah, that's why he said he almost started watching films in his phone.
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Was finally able to catch this today - epic in every sense of the word, improving on pretty much all of the issues I had with Part 1. Would have honestly liked a little more Feyd, and am sad about some of those deleted scenes we'll never get to see, but those seem petty complaints in light of just how spectacular the whole thing was. Hope to see it again soon, in IMAX this time.
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It's a good thing Dune exists. Otherwise Star Wars may never have happened.
