Eat. Sleep. Wrestling Thread. Repeat. - Part 140

[Superark]

Batista seems way more over as a heel than even Randy Orton is at this point. It's got to be intentional given The Authority referring to him as "a good friend" and him dressing like a *****e two weeks in a row and getting visibly pissed at the fans chanting for Bryan. There is no way Batista could be this bad at being a babyface, could he?

Is it fair to say Daniel Bryan, Roman Reigns and even Cena got the biggest cheers/chants tonight? Everyone else either got booed or got very little reaction.

Have you seen Batista outside of WWE TV? That's how the dude dresses. Ultra "do you even lift" bro *****e is his nature.

 

[DigificWriter]

Remember how quickly they built Rock vs Hogan? Look how great that turned out.

Sting vs. Taker could be done with the same amount of time.

Sting's first WWE fued/match needs to be one he can win, and that's not happening if he fights 'Taker.

 

[TX85]

I want Sting and Taker to be separated or only have teases against each other for a year until they finally collide at WM31 where both retire together

 

[DigificWriter]

I want Sting and Taker to be separated or only have teases against each other for a year until they finally collide at WM31 where both retire together

Agreed.

In that case I'd still debut him at EC,Maybe after whatever Punk does with Kane and go after Kane to tie Sting into the Authority story,At Mania it could be Kane vs Punk/Daniel involved in the title match against Orton and Sting vs Kane

Sting vs. Shield is a much better feud option than Sting vs. Kane.

 

[TX85]

Sting can have feuds with both of them,Face Kane at WM then tag with two partners to take on Shield at Extreme Rules..Although I think Shield should split at Mania so maybe face Kane at Extreme Rules

 

[Superark]

Sting's first WWE fued/match needs to be one he can win, and that's not happening if he fights 'Taker.

Kane is a good option if you simply want to give him a big name and a win. Sting has always enjoyed working against bigger guys as well.

I want Sting and Taker to be separated or only have teases against each other for a year until they finally collide at WM31 where both retire together

I feel like waiting a year is too long for them to put on Taker and Sting given their age and mileage on their bodies. If they decide to not have them wrestle at Mania, then Summerslam is their best bet, as it would give the show a marquee match up.

If they are both healthy enough, WM could be the rematch if Sting were to beat Taker at SS.

I still think Taker's last match will be defeating Cena at WM.

 

[DigificWriter]

Sting can have feuds with both of them,Face Kane at WM then tag with two partners to take on Shield at Extreme Rules..Although I think Shield should split at Mania so maybe face Kane at Extreme Rules

Sting/Kane is not a better 'Mania 30 feud than Sting/Shield. A feud between Sting and The Shield at 'Mania is a win-win scenario all the way around because it's one Sting can win and one that can serve as the perfect catalyst for the trio's implosion.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Have you seen Batista outside of WWE TV? That's how the dude dresses. Ultra "do you even lift" bro *****e is his nature.

If he acts like that when he's promoting his Marvel movie, he'll be replaced.

 

[Ghostvirus]

So will regular cable subscribers be able to access all the previous PPV's on demand, or is that just offered on the net?

 

[vantheman77]

Sting reportedly makes 500K a year with TNA. Given that they could not even pay Styles what he was previously making, which is far less than Sting's, I don't see how he goes back. He could make far more money with WWE on a Legends deal than he could with TNA at this point.

Plus there are two factors to consider. One, it is clear that TNA simply isn't going anywhere anytime soon. After the Hogan/Bischoff failure, it's clear TNA has a long road ahead of them just to get back to being a profitable company. There's not a big future for Sting in the company now and his wishes of helping them reach the next level are surely gone at this point.

Secondly, and what I think might be the most important factor is HHH's new found power and role in the company. HHH was instrumental in getting Bruno back to WWE after years of turmoil. Just as he was the bridge fro Bruno, I can see him as the bridge for Sting. HHH is said to be a big proponent of signing Sting as he has a ton of respect for him. You have to think he would play a large role in making sure Sting looked strong in the company.

Sting isn't a guy who has burned any bridges in the business and by all accounts he is considered one of the few good guys in the business that you never hear a bad word about. I don't see any axes to grind on WWE's part, especially at this stage of the game and WWE has always shown Sting respect and praise in all of their footage of him. Besides, I think Sting would make sure he has assurances that he has some creative control over his character.

Actually AJ Styles wanted more than what he was previously making and TNA couldn't give him that.

For Sting dealing with Triple H may be one thing since he has amount of respect for him, but can he do that with Vince McMahon himself which is another thing?

With the praises Sting gets through old footage of him, it's mostly on his original blonde surfer persona and I wonder if WWE wants the old Sting instead of the dark Sting from the 90's as they may have too many dark characters like Undertaker and Kane.

I would like to see another reunion between Sting and Ultimate Warrior.

 

[Slushy]

I would like to see another reunion between Sting and Ultimate Warrior.

I don't see The Blade Runners getting chummy anytime soon.


Back in UWF, Bill Watts told Warrior to get on his hands and knees so that he could show him a move. This was a rib done by Watts, and after the wrestler got down on the floor, he would legit kick them as hard as he could. Warrior caught wind of this from the other wrestles beforehand and told Watts to make him get on the floor, which ended up stopping everything cold and causing Eddie Gilbert to remark, “they’ll never make it.” Sting did not have Warrior’s back throughout the entire exchange and that was the end of their friendship.

 

[vantheman77]

I don't see The Blade Runners getting chummy anytime soon.


Back in UWF, Bill Watts told Warrior to get on his hands and knees so that he could show him a move. This was a rib done by Watts, and after the wrestler got down on the floor, he would legit kick them as hard as he could. Warrior caught wind of this from the other wrestles beforehand and told Watts to make him get on the floor, which ended up stopping everything cold and causing Eddie Gilbert to remark, “they’ll never make it.” Sting did not have Warrior’s back throughout the entire exchange and that was the end of their friendship.

No, not as the Blade Runners as I don't expect them to return to that. They outgrew that. The last time they reunited was in 1998 when they faced Hulk Hogan and Bret Hart a couple of weeks before Halloween Havoc 98.

I know it wasn't a friendly parting between Sting and Ultimate Warrior, but in retrospect that breakup was the best thing happening for them as they would go on to have great careers in WWE and WCW respectively. Had they stayed together, they'd have become Road Warrior imitators like Powers of Pain and Demolition.

 

[TheVileOne]

I would want to believe this is a clever heel turn, but they had Batista cut a total face promo. Other than the reactions, his win was a face-type win at the Rumble.

That was clearly the plan. And it doesn't seem like the plan has changed much.

I don't believe an audible has been called. Sheamus is still in the Elimination Chamber. I dunno, that just still seems the direction to me.

 

[Slushy]

In honor of Jake Roberts, I thought I'd post my favorite promo of his:

Let me relay a little story to you so maybe you'll understand exactly where I'm coming from. Once upon a time, there was a little rabbit hopping down a trail and he looks out onto the roadway and a snake had been crushed by a car. Nearly dead, but not quite. And the rabbit hopped out and he looked down at the snake and

Rabbit: Snake, I know you're hurt badly and I'm going to take you back to my den and help you and I'm going to nurse you back to health.

Snake: Oh, no. You can't do that. I'm a snake. I'm a snake. You can't do that.

Rabbit: No, but I'm going to make you my friend, Mr. Snake.

So he did. He carried that snake back to his den. Put him in his den. And slowly, but surely, he did nurse him back to health just like The Rabbit said he would. Then one day, the rabbit went out for more food and more water for the snake and he came back. The snake was gone. He turned around and there was the snake in front of him.

Snake: Mr. Rabbit, I am going to eat you.

Rabbit: Oh, no. I'm your friend.

Snake: In the very beginning I told you I was a snake.

And you, Ultimate Warrior, have to be the biggest, dumbest rabbit I've ever seen!

 

[TheVileOne]

Even though it was sorta goofy, that stuff with Warrior and Roberts was pretty creepy and IMHO ahead of its time.

 

[Hunter Rider]

So question time....

If Sting signs, how would you have him debut? Who would you have him wrestle during his time with WWE?

I know the usual suspects that will be suggested but if they decide to hold off on Sting vs Taker until Mania 31 then Sting needs to win the matches he has in-between, and I'm not sure you book him over the entire roster.

I'd say matches with Triple H, Batista and Orton would be good choices, I expect Batista to be a heel soon and that will give Sting 3 high profile heels to beat.

Do you remember the fun tag title run Edge had with Hulk? I'd do the same with Sting for a few months in the summer. I'd pair him with a young face and let that dynamic serve both.

Another question. Do you think if Sting signs with WWE, he should win the WWE title at some point?

I say it would be a nice gesture to Sting, and if it were to happen it should be over Orton, who could play the perfect heel the fans hate and is established enough not to lose anything by it.

I don't think so, but then again I think Bryan should be champion for a year and that's unlikely, so if it's on Batista come the summer than might as well give Sting a short run if he's up to it with his performances.

I would want to believe this is a clever heel turn, but they had Batista cut a total face promo. Other than the reactions, his win was a face-type win at the Rumble.

That was clearly the plan. And it doesn't seem like the plan has changed much.

I don't believe an audible has been called. Sheamus is still in the Elimination Chamber. I dunno, that just still seems the direction to me.

Sheamus being in the Chamber match is the big worry.

 

[Wheels]

I feel like a kid again watching Brock Lesnar. It's like watching Vader's path of destruction in WCW, but better.

 

[RetroNaz]

Just catching up on RAW.
Where the hell did this Brad Maddox guy actually come from? Stick a fork in these stupid GM roles on TV and just allow HHH/Stephanie to be the "Dana White" of WWE.

 

[Rincewind]

Just watched the Rumble and RAW. Quite honestly, I never expected Bryan to win the thing, so I wasn't surprised. Without reading about creative's plans, I was sure that either Sheamus or Batista would win the Rumble once they returned. Still, it would be foolish of WWE to ignore what the people want. Bryan has been over for quite some time, and it has become pretty serious. It's obvious that he's the guy the audience wants right now.

With that in mind, I really, really refuse to believe that the WWE brass are complete idiots. If they ignore Bryan's insane popularity, they would be shooting themselves in the foot. With a cannon. They cannot be that stupid. No matter how big their egos are, or how out of touch they are with the crowd, they just can't be that stupid. No company would throw away such obvious money and profit out of stupidity.
So I'm thinking that all of this is planned for. Bryan winning the Rumble would have been cool, but imagine how much cooler it would be for him to go over at Mania. The crowd would go nuts. Having Bryan's character SLOWLY and PAINFULLY overcoming the "machine" is a good story. It would make for an incredible Mania moment, with a huge build-up. So I would advice patience. The promo with HHH, Steph and Bryan on RAW confirms it in my eyes. They are not morons, they are just building this up slowly and the fans are buying into it. Any other option is unacceptable. If I'm wrong and they are trying to really bury Bryan instead of building him up by agonizingly overcoming a seemingly unstoppable adversity, then the WWE brass and creative are the worst businessmen ever.

On other topics, the Shield are still my favorite thing to watch. Seriously, all three of them are future stars. Reigns is the Chosen One (breaking Kane's old record was badass, son!), but Ambrose and Rollins are amazing talent as well. The only thing I don't like is that with the inevitable pushes that await those guys, the Shield will soon be history. I know it's for the greater good, but damn, this was the best group I've seen... since I don't remember when.

 

[Herolee10]

How would you guys feel if, for the Elimination Chamber Match, it ended where Daniel got the final pin, but due to some stupid B.S. controversial factor, resulted in neither Daniel gaining the championship or Orton retaining it, thus leading to Daniel getting his chance to go after the title one more time (which would now be vacated) at Mania in a triple threat like match involving Batista?

 

[Rincewind]

As long as Bryan wins cleanly at Mania, it's all good.

 

[Wheels]

One on one matches are so much better. It's just a much better story when there's no thrd wheel, and make no mistake, Orton would be the third wheel due to his awful booking, and WWE's hype of Batista.

 

[DigificWriter]

Daniel Bryan is the new Shawn Michaels. He doesn't have to be in the title match to get his 'Mania moment, and I really wish people would realize that sooner rather than later because I swear that if childish fans hijack 'Mania, I'm done with being a fan for a while.

 

[Herolee10]

Daniel Bryan is the new Shawn Michaels. He doesn't have to be in the title match to get his 'Mania moment, and I really wish people would realize that sooner rather than later because I swear that if childish fans hijack 'Mania, I'm done with being a fan for a while.

At least Shawn was given a chance to take the ball and run far with it.

Shawn has been allowed to partake in several great and memorable feuds, along with having proper WWE title reigns.

Daniel Bryan hasn't, so it's not really fair to say that he could just be in any old match and still have his moment.

Heck, Daniel Bryan hasn't had ANY REAL moment in Mania history that's worth recalling, unlike Shawn.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ I vehemently disagree with and reject this idea that Bryan hasn't been adequately 'given the ball' the way Shawn was.