Eat. Sleep. Wrestling Thread. Repeat. - Part 140

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Rusev is the new Kozlov. His Rumble performance was a good first impression IMO.

Punk is right really. I mean look at Batista. Comes back and automatically wins the Rumble and gets to main event WrestleMania, even though the fans crapped on the Rumble.

A lot of this goes back to the Pipe Bomb promo and the things he said.

Just saying, we could've had one of the greatest moments ever with Daniel Bryan overcoming the odds after losing to Bray Wyatt, infiltrating the Rumble and getting the victory. I mean the storyline writes itself.

I mean what else is the long goal for Daniel Bryan? They keep teasing us and teasing us, but it's a lot like the girl who keeps holding the football for Charlie Brown to punt and then she just takes it away at the last second.

He's going to go to WrestleMania and wrestle Sheamus? That's supposed to excite us how?

Meanwhile, Randy Orton has been in total decline as the heel champion. It's some of the most boring, dull uninspired work of his career. The Authority get to constantly rail down on the roster and no one ever really checks them.

I just don't get Jim Ross' whole wait and see approach. I mean we've waited and we aren't seeing it.

With all that in mind, I can see why CM Punk is fed up with it. He got his run at the top and thought things would change. It didn't really happen. I always got the sense Punk was secure at this point and he would be OK if he had to quit.
The bright side to Punk taking himself out of the picture means Bryan can take his place on feuding with Triple H (since Shawn Michaels doesn't want to come out and play). Defeating Hunter Hearst Helmsley in the main event of WrestleMania 30 means more than winning back the title at this point.
 
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The story on CM Punk:

Former WWE and World champion CM Punk has been pulled from all advertising of WWE live events going forward after a meeting with WWE management yesterday at the Raw taping in Cleveland, Ohio.

We have been working on details for the last 24 hours (as Dave Scherer and I noted on our respective Elite audios earlier today), but the belief among those who are willing to talk about the situation is that Punk is no longer factored into company plans. Punk is under contract to WWE through July.

Punk was slated to face Triple H at Wrestlemania 30. This past Monday's Raw instead began teasing Daniel Bryan vs. HHH down the line, possibly for Wrestlemania.

We have heard from several sources that the original script for yesterday's Raw called for Punk to wrestle Antonio Cesaro and lose after Kane interfered, allowing Cesaro to qualify for the Elimination Chamber. It should be noted that another source has denied that and claimed that Punk was never booked to wrestle last night and was only booked to do a promo that would follow up on Kane causing Punk's elimination from the Rumble. But, Punk was originally slated to be on Raw and those segments were yanked. He was not backstage during the taping and was not backstage at Smackdown.

It is believed that when Vince McMahon had the writers re-write Raw late yesterday (6 PM for a taping that was scheduled to start at 7:45 PM), it was because Punk had informed the company he was going home and wouldn't be back.

While we cannot 100% confirm why, the belief among wrestlers backstage is that Punk leaving was not an injury issue. It was described to us as more likely a case of burnout and unhappiness with the overall direction of the company. Punk had been very vocal in the past about the usage of returning and "part time" stars being pushed beyond wrestlers who were working full-time for the company.

In his interview with Ariel Helwani last week, Punk talked about the crazy schedule he's held up working for the company over the last decade. Punk said that he's been doing it ten years and doesn't know anyone else who can say that. He said that he's only taken time off for injuries and that when he took two months off in 2013, it may not have been long enough.

Punk, who worked about 50 minutes in the Royal Rumble match was described as "pissy" after the PPV, although that wouldn't be an unusual description of Punk's demeanor backstage.

One source believed that since Punk's last goal was to work a Wrestlemania main event, it may also be a situation where Punk realized it wasn't going to happen this year and with his WWE deal expiring in July, that may have weighed down upon him because he was so goal driven and this was one he couldn't accomplish because of elements that were outside of his control.

In the interview with Helwani, Punk was asked about WWE killing his momentum at times and why such things happen. Punk responded that he'd like to think they don't make those decisions on purpose and it's more they wanted to go in another decision. He claimed it's a different era and different time and it can't be looked at the same way he did when he was a kid.

Yesterday, Punk wrote on Twitter, "Thanks for all the support. Keep being you guys, it's pretty cool."

Depending on how you read the statement, it could be taken as a cryptic farewell.

We'll obviously update more as we confirm additional details.

http://pwinsider.com/article/83178/...-going-forward-following-raw-meeting.html?p=1

Part of me wonders if this could be part of an angle, but I doubt it. Hopefully something is worked out. Otherwise, it's been, Punk.

I'll be waiting on the shoot or podcast with Austin. Well, it looks he at least told the company instead of just walking out without warning.

Maybe he was told he would lose to Triple H at Wrestlemania, or that he's facing Kane at Wrestlemania.
 
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The story on CM Punk:

Former WWE and World champion CM Punk has been pulled from all advertising of WWE live events going forward after a meeting with WWE management yesterday at the Raw taping in Cleveland, Ohio.

We have been working on details for the last 24 hours (as Dave Scherer and I noted on our respective Elite audios earlier today), but the belief among those who are willing to talk about the situation is that Punk is no longer factored into company plans. Punk is under contract to WWE through July.

Punk was slated to face Triple H at Wrestlemania 30. This past Monday's Raw instead began teasing Daniel Bryan vs. HHH down the line, possibly for Wrestlemania.

We have heard from several sources that the original script for yesterday's Raw called for Punk to wrestle Antonio Cesaro and lose after Kane interfered, allowing Cesaro to qualify for the Elimination Chamber. It should be noted that another source has denied that and claimed that Punk was never booked to wrestle last night and was only booked to do a promo that would follow up on Kane causing Punk's elimination from the Rumble. But, Punk was originally slated to be on Raw and those segments were yanked. He was not backstage during the taping and was not backstage at Smackdown.

It is believed that when Vince McMahon had the writers re-write Raw late yesterday (6 PM for a taping that was scheduled to start at 7:45 PM), it was because Punk had informed the company he was going home and wouldn't be back.

While we cannot 100% confirm why, the belief among wrestlers backstage is that Punk leaving was not an injury issue. It was described to us as more likely a case of burnout and unhappiness with the overall direction of the company. Punk had been very vocal in the past about the usage of returning and "part time" stars being pushed beyond wrestlers who were working full-time for the company.

In his interview with Ariel Helwani last week, Punk talked about the crazy schedule he's held up working for the company over the last decade. Punk said that he's been doing it ten years and doesn't know anyone else who can say that. He said that he's only taken time off for injuries and that when he took two months off in 2013, it may not have been long enough.

Punk, who worked about 50 minutes in the Royal Rumble match was described as "pissy" after the PPV, although that wouldn't be an unusual description of Punk's demeanor backstage.

One source believed that since Punk's last goal was to work a Wrestlemania main event, it may also be a situation where Punk realized it wasn't going to happen this year and with his WWE deal expiring in July, that may have weighed down upon him because he was so goal driven and this was one he couldn't accomplish because of elements that were outside of his control.

In the interview with Helwani, Punk was asked about WWE killing his momentum at times and why such things happen. Punk responded that he'd like to think they don't make those decisions on purpose and it's more they wanted to go in another decision. He claimed it's a different era and different time and it can't be looked at the same way he did when he was a kid.

Yesterday, Punk wrote on Twitter, "Thanks for all the support. Keep being you guys, it's pretty cool."

Depending on how you read the statement, it could be taken as a cryptic farewell.

We'll obviously update more as we confirm additional details.

http://pwinsider.com/article/83178/...-going-forward-following-raw-meeting.html?p=1

Part of me wonders if this could be part of an angle, but I doubt it. Hopefully something is worked out. Otherwise, it's been, Punk.

I'll be waiting on the shoot or podcast with Austin. Well, it looks he at least told the company instead of just walking out without warning.


Well I hope Punk knows what he's doing...even Austin has gone on the record of saying that he regretted behaving the way he did back in 2002 and walking out on the company the way he did.

But I can understand where the guy is coming from. Heck, this has been a issue for both the male and female superstars of the company, especially when it concerns losing their spots on Mania due to a part timer returning to steal the spotlight.

I got nothing against Trish, but I can't think of a good reason of why people would want to book her in a match with Snooki as her partner for Mania when there are more credible Divas backstage that could have taken that spot.

And the same goes for the Rock and Batista, most notably the former. At least Batista is going to be wrestling more than three times a year and is going to be working a full schedule until GOTG comes out.

The Rock was pretty much handed two Mania Main Event slots for free with the lightest of all schedules. Not to mention, you had Vince making everyone know before engaging in a physical segment with him that they should be careful so that they don't have him injured.

It's just sad and amazing on how much the WWE has practically become the next WCW when it come to its backstage politics and poor treatment of their wrestlers.
 
This isn't good PR for WWE right now, with the WWE Network launch coming soon.

- Crowd hijacks and rebels against the WWE during the 3rd biggest show if the year out of support for their popular but ignored star.

- A top star leaves the company due to dissatisfaction over the company's direction.

- And in the reasons for why both incidents have occurred is Batista returning and getting the Mania spot.
 
I can't deny I'm disappointed about CM Punk's departure if it turns out to be true, but I can't say I'm surprised either. Judging by his posts on Twitter or even his demeanour on TV in recent months, I'd say the writing has been on the wall for a while now. And Batista's a Royal Rumble victory may have been the straw that broke the camel's back.
 
Defeating Hunter Hearst Helmsley in the main event of WrestleMania 30 means more than winning back the title at this point.

Eh...no. The belt means much more than beating a 44-year-old, semi-retired suit. Trips' true main event days are a decade in the past now; Bryan beating him would mean next to nothing.

Part of me hopes this is a work but I doubt it. SCSA walked out in 02 if I remember correctly. I don't think WWE can afford to lose Punk but I don't want him to come back and just get buried.

Even if it's not a work, it could blow over in a few days. It's too bad Shawn Michaels doesn't have a blue ring to slide on Punk's finger and tell him, "All will be well."
 
can't help but think this might be a work/angle to build up the hhh vs punk match
it would be cool if the authority ran wild and hhh was talking trash about punk for weeks and then he returned to confront/attack hhh

it seems strange there has been no official word from anyone yet

but this is wwe afterall, i've gotta give it to tna, atleast they tried this week, more than i can say for raw/royal rumble
 
WWE same old s***.

Can't say I'm surprised. It's disappointing that a few years after Punk's pipebomb everything he said is still relevant regarding the WWE.

Vince obsession with big guys, Vince craving mainstream popular cultures attention yet not understanding mainstream popular culture. The same old guys holding the title and having boring feuds for the ninth time.
 
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So this monday we can expect HHH to do the usual "Took his ball and went home" promo,while also having AJ make out with Batista.
 
I had a feeling all was not well when they didn't even mention Kane screwing Punk out of the Rumble match. The news sucks but isn't that surprising, I think he's probably sick of his own booking since Summerslam and the Bryan situation probably bothers him as well, I mean look at the final 3 in the Rumble, Vince's vision for what WWE should be, alive and well!

It could be a work but I doubt it, and of course WWE could talk him around but something tells me that's unlikely. My favourite wrestler since HBK retired now also left is disappointing but given the way WWE is heading and the fact TNA is unwatchable, it just adds to the overall way I feel about wrestling right now.


The "Daniel Bryan" situation isn't the first time fans have hijacked shows. It's happened for years, even in the early 90s:

Flair was in his legal rights to take the NWA/WCW World title belt with him to the WWF because Herd refused to give Flair back the $25,000 deposit that the NWA required of every wrestler upon winning the World title to keep him from appearing in a rival promotion (like the WWF); according to NWA bylaws, the deposit would be paid back upon losing, plus interest. Without Flair, the 1991 Great American Bash became what many fans consider one of the worst wrestling PPVs in history, as the Baltimore audience loudly chanted, "We want Flair!" throughout the entire show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Herd#Lasting_impact_on_the_NWA

Heh, I actually mentioned this to my Dad yesterday.
 
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Reigns is easily my favorite "WWE guy" since Randy Orton's earlier days.
 
That sucks to hear about Punk leaving. I'm not the least bit surprised though.
 
Yeah, I will definitely give you that. Lesnar is still awesome. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir here, but Lesnar, Angle and Edge > Triple-H. I actually think Orton is better in the ring than Triple-H, as well.
 
I honestly can't stand Orton as a person or wrestler. So I'd take Triple H over him pretty easily. Even now.
 
I don't want this Punk news to be real, so I'm going to act like it isn't until we have proof.
 
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Can you imagine how crazy the crowds are going to get if Punk really is gone? That makes Daniel Bryan the undisputed #1 face for smarks, and they will throw their frustration about Punk into their support for Bryan at shows.
 
Can you imagine how crazy the crowds are going to get if Punk really is gone? That makes Daniel Bryan the undisputed #1 face for smarks, and they will throw their frustration about Punk into their support for Bryan at shows.

Yup... or hopefully we get some "We want Punk!" chants during any Batista segments as well.

While it will be a huge disappointment if Punk really is gone, I can't say I'm surprised. Sadly & in a twisted way, Punk taking his ball & going home is all the justification Vince & Co. need for validating Batista's return. "Oh Punk you're leaving? Good thing we just brought in another main eventer to fill your spot!" :cmad::cmad::cmad:

As much as I like what HHH is doing down in developmental, it sure seems like the buddy system is in full effect with Batista's return. It's hard to say who to pin it on, Vince or Haitch, but either way I dislike the fact that a guy like Batista can waltz in after being gone nearly four years to main event WM (and it can't be said enough that he's not nearly the draw he thinks he is).
 
I honestly can't stand Orton as a person or wrestler. So I'd take Triple H over him pretty easily. Even now.

Agreed.

Heck, guys like Orton, Batista, and even Hogan... it just feels depressing that guys like these are promoted to be the best when their wrestling skills and real life personality leave much to be desired.
 
You know, one complaint I don't get about Bryan from some people is his lack of mic skills. Sure, he isn't The Rock or Ric Flair, but people worshipped the ground Goldberg walked on, and that man had zero mic skills and even his one-line promos ("Who's next?"/"You're next!") were often painful to watch. At least Bryan can articulate complete thoughts to tell a story. I actually don't think he is any worse on the mic than Bret Hart (and I love me some Bret Hart). He might not have the promo ability of Randy Savage, but he's not exactly hurting in that area.
 
Yup... or hopefully we get some "We want Punk!" chants during any Batista segments as well.

I have a feeling they'll be keeping Batista's mic time to a minimum for the next two weeks or so. Would you trust the guy not to make an off the cuff "heel" barb at the audience if they are all dumping on him in unison? I know I wouldn't, and god forbid they catch Batista doing anything on live TV that contravenes him as a face. :whatever:

Pretty ****** timing for Punk to do this anyway, but I guess there's no better way of sending a message than giving them the proverbial FU and walking out in Wrestlemania season.
 
Bryan is a very articulate and intelligent guy. He may not have an abundance of sizzle on the mic, but he's much better than Jeff Hardy, or Lesnar, or Batista, or Rey.
 
I gotta say it sucks to hear about Punk. The original plan WAS to have him win the Rumble and face Cena at XXX. That's why they were kept apart most of the year. Batista signs (granted it's for a true final run) and he loses his Rumble victory and WrestleMania spot in favor of someone who hasn't been there for four years. That's like my boss hiring someone new at a higher rate than I make eventhough I've been busting my ass for the company for years. I'd be pissed off too. His contract was/is up in July and he saw the writing on the walll.

We all knew some of the decisions made by creative and management were destined to blow up in their face. It's a shame it's happened right before WrestleMania 30 and the launch of the Network, but hopefully they take notice and actually do what is for business. Time will tell.
 
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