The Dark Knight Eric Roberts is Maroni!

[Mikesimus]

or Stephen Frye

 

[Schlosser85]

Brian Cox would be too cliche for Nolan probably, he always plays a scumbag. For that matter so would James Gandolfini because of Sopranos. Nolan obviously likes casting people you don't expect.

I agree about Bob Hoskins being an easy casting choice for The Penguin though.

 

[namtaB]

Very uninspired casting. Roberts plays the mobster very well as seen in previous films. Its not like with Ledger where I was thinking WTF and then was shocked at how he seems to have nailed it.

 

[sasquatchs]

I'm all for taking risks with casting and everything else but they don't all have to be out of left field. Wilkinson was an interesting choice and he's usually very good in American roles, but his Falcone was still an awful cliche. As long as Roberts exudes his usual dignified power it should be fine. I can't see it being a very demanding role

 

[strikezone89]

wow.. im surprised this thread is just now being made

 

[Luchastyle]

i thought wilkinson was pretty awesome as falcone. people knock it all the time, but i liked it.

 

[Laderlappen]

James Gandolfini was suggested to play a mobboss? You're kidding. t:

 

[Mr. Socko]

i thought wilkinson was pretty awesome as falcone. people knock it all the time, but i liked it.

My problems were Wilkinson's tired New Yorker accent and the fact that the character was downplayed. He's suppose to run the underworld of Gotham as Cesar ran the Roman empire, hence the name. Instead, in Batman Begins he runs in cowardice when Crane alerts him that Al Ghul is coming to town.

 

[namtaB]

My problems were Wilkinson's tired New Yorker accent and the fact that the character was downplayed. He's suppose to run the underworld of Gotham as Cesar ran the Roman empire, hence the name. Instead, in Batman Begins he runs in cowardice when Crane alerts him that Al Ghul is coming to town.

Which Caesar?

 

[Mr. Socko]

Romero.

 

[namtaB]

Romero.

He never ran the Roman Empire hoss.

 

[Mr. Socko]

 

[namtaB]

Well you said as Caesar ran the Roman Empire. Just wanted to see if you know what you're talking about. The dodging of the questions says you don't.

Ya' rly.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Well you said as Caesar ran the Roman Empire. Just wanted to see if you know what you're talking about. The dodging of the questions says you don't.

Ya' rly.

My friend, I am speaking of Julius Caesar, who else? You asked which one, and replying "Romero" was just too hard to pass up

 

[namtaB]

My friend, I am speaking of Julius Caesar, who else? You asked which one, and replying "Romero" was just too hard to pass up

Julius Caesar never ran the Roman Empire. There was no Empire in his lifetime at all. His assassination marked the end of the Roman Republic.

 

[JackBauer24]

Julius Caesar never ran the Roman Empire. There was no Empire in his lifetime at all. His assassination marked the end of the Roman Republic.

owned.

 

[JackBauer24]

My problems were Wilkinson's tired New Yorker accent and the fact that the character was downplayed. He's suppose to run the underworld of Gotham as Cesar ran the Roman empire, hence the name. Instead, in Batman Begins he runs in cowardice when Crane alerts him that Al Ghul is coming to town.

Where is that stated in Batman Begins?

You have to remember that Falcone in BB is not the same Falcone as in the comics. Just like Flass was a very different character - you have to take the more minor characters on their own terms, and I thought Falcone was a very fun character and Wilkinson gave an appropriately hammy performance. I like it very much.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Julius Caesar never ran the Roman Empire. There was no Empire in his lifetime at all. His assassination marked the end of the Roman Republic.

You're right, I am confusing the two. So once you take the stick out of your ass you can replace the word "Empire" for "Republic." But clearly the point stands, Carmine controls the underworld of Gotham in the same manner Caesar controlled the Roman Republic as it's noted in the comics. But really, you are pulling the whole thread from it's topic when we're discussing the mob bosses of Gotham.

Where is that stated in Batman Begins?

You have to remember that Falcone in BB is not the same Falcone as in the comics. Just like Flass was a very different character - you have to take the more minor characters on their own terms, and I thought Falcone was a very fun character and Wilkinson gave an appropriately hammy performance. I like it very much.

Yeah I sometimes tend to think of the characters as the same instead of couterparts but you're right, they aren't exactly the same in the comics and the movies. If you thought Wilkinson as Falcone was great, that's completely fine. I'm not raining on parades just tossing out my opinions on a message board as you can clearly read.

 

[namtaB]

You're right, I am confusing the two. So once you take the stick out of your ass you can replace the word "Empire" for "Republic." But clearly the point stands, Carmine controls the underworld of Gotham in the same manner Caesar controlled the Roman Republic as it's noted in the comics. But really, you are pulling the whole thread from it's topic when we're discussing the mob bosses of Gotham.

Caesar never controlled the Republic either. The leading figures of the Republic were the First Triumvirate of Pompey, Crassus, and Caesar with Caesar being the "junior partner" throughout his time in Gaul. It was only after Crassus was executed during his failed Parthian campaign that the leading figures were Pompey and Caesar.

But even this is tenuous since control of the Republic wasn't held by a single individual or individuals. Rather it was held by the entire Patrician class with a select number of individuals including the aforementioned plus Cicero, Piso, Cato, Marcellus, Curio, Longinus, etc. outshining others in terms of wealth and auctoritas.

I suppose one could argue that Caesar held control of Rome after defeating Pompey and returning from his African and Egyptian campaigns. But even this is questionable since he was assassinated well before most of his reforms went into effect, his rumored plan to reenter and establish Roman presence in Britain after his first two weak attempts while in Gaul, and to attack Parthia and avenge Crassus's death.

In short, Julius Caesar never controlled the Roman Empire because there was no Empire to speak of during his time. Furthermore, the extension that the control was present over the Republic doesn't work either since many individuals at the time held much more control than Caesar and he was murdered premature to the fruition of any unilateral control by himself.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I read the first few lines then the last few lines and decided no need to read anything else(though I don't doubt you had fun typing it) as you're still completely off topic

 

[Schlosser85]

Caesar never controlled the Republic either. The leading figures of the Republic were the First Triumvirate of Pompey, Crassus, and Caesar with Caesar being the "junior partner" throughout his time in Gaul. It was only after Crassus was executed during his failed Parthian campaign that the leading figures were Pompey and Caesar.

But even this is tenuous since control of the Republic wasn't held by a single individual or individuals. Rather it was held by the entire Patrician class with a select number of individuals including the aforementioned plus Cicero, Piso, Cato, Marcellus, Curio, Longinus, etc. outshining others in terms of wealth and auctoritas.

I suppose one could argue that Caesar held control of Rome after defeating Pompey and returning from his African and Egyptian campaigns. But even this is questionable since he was assassinated well before most of his reforms went into effect, his rumored plan to reenter and establish Roman presence in Britain after his first two weak attempts while in Gaul, and to attack Parthia and avenge Crassus's death.

In short, Julius Caesar never controlled the Roman Empire because there was no Empire to speak of during his time. Furthermore, the extension that the control was present over the Republic doesn't work either since many individuals at the time held much more control than Caesar and he was murdered premature to the fruition of any unilateral control by himself.

Well, someone sure likes to hear themselves talk.

Your history lesson has nothing to do with anything here. Off-topic.

 

[The Schlone]

Caesar never controlled the Republic either. The leading figures of the Republic were the First Triumvirate of Pompey, Crassus, and Caesar with Caesar being the "junior partner" throughout his time in Gaul. It was only after Crassus was executed during his failed Parthian campaign that the leading figures were Pompey and Caesar.

But even this is tenuous since control of the Republic wasn't held by a single individual or individuals. Rather it was held by the entire Patrician class with a select number of individuals including the aforementioned plus Cicero, Piso, Cato, Marcellus, Curio, Longinus, etc. outshining others in terms of wealth and auctoritas.

I suppose one could argue that Caesar held control of Rome after defeating Pompey and returning from his African and Egyptian campaigns. But even this is questionable since he was assassinated well before most of his reforms went into effect, his rumored plan to reenter and establish Roman presence in Britain after his first two weak attempts while in Gaul, and to attack Parthia and avenge Crassus's death.

In short, Julius Caesar never controlled the Roman Empire because there was no Empire to speak of during his time. Furthermore, the extension that the control was present over the Republic doesn't work either since many individuals at the time held much more control than Caesar and he was murdered premature to the fruition of any unilateral control by himself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Be sure to double-space and turn in a works-cited list with your essay; MLA format, please.

 

[Mister J]

Well, someone sure likes to hear themselves talk.

Your history lesson has nothing to do with anything here. Off-topic.

What he said.

 

[Starbird]

i thought wilkinson was pretty awesome as falcone. people knock it all the time, but i liked it.

100% agreed.

 

[ronny]

How was Wilkinson "hammy"? What does that mean exactly? That he overacted? I don't think so really.