Escape from New York (Remake)

[DorkyFresh]

That's where acting comes in.

yes, but you act as if actors/actresses don't have limits. also, i like how you're so quick to point out "that's what acting is for" but when it comes to a man's build you don't ever think "that's what pre-production training is for"...

Wasn't he that way in that stupid Dragon movie?

in Reign of Fire, he was a tough guy...but he wasn't a selfish, anti-hero like Snake is. he was a tough, stubborn yank that wanted to get rid of the dragons.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I like him but as Dorky says, he's the likable guy with the ladies pants removal grin, not a grizzly badass, it's just not in him, just the way there is no way to make Steve Buscemi the lead in a Rom Com.

 

[Advanced Dark]

yes, but you act as if actors/actresses don't have limits...


in Reign of Fire, he was a tough guy...but he wasn't a selfish, anti-hero like Snake is. he was a tough, stubborn yank that wanted to get rid of the dragons.

Where do I talk about any actor having no limits. If anything some of you are suggesting Matt is limited to only how you've seen him act.

 

[Mr. Socko]

Yeah but in DP Russel really didn't have to do anything but sit in a drivers seat..being snake is a whole new ball game, especially with the way you know they will do it


I think I would like to see someone real random, who doesn't appear to be a snake but takes the character on, nuances it and tour de forces it in a much different but sweet way as apposed to Russel, cause Russel will be so synonomys with snake unless someone brings a different aspect of him out like the many bonds have done...if every bond had copycated connery the series would be far less popular because everyone would be dissapointed that it isn't connery.. so my choices are

Matt Damon, Mark Wahlberg, Guy Pearce, and Clive Owen (well maybe not the aussie and the brit, but they are still bad asses)...just let a great actor like one of these three take the role and do whatever they want with it

I still however think a Danny Boyle could make a brilliant EFNY, you could almost look at 28 days later as escape from london but with zombies instead of the duke etc

Clive Owens would be a great choice!

 

[Midnhtsun]

That's where acting comes in. Wasn't he that way in that stupid Dragon movie?

Yes but it doesnt matter how good of an actor you are just some people cannot pull off certain roles. Can Matt play an action role yes he can, but capture snakes personnality no. You could say that he could act his own version of snake but it wouldnt be anything like the character russel has portrayed.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Where do I talk about any actor having no limits. If anything some of you are suggesting Matt is limited to only how you've seen him act.

well considering he's been in at least 1 film a year since he's become popular (with the exception of 2004) it's a pretty good-sized library to judge his acting abilities by. if we're not supposed to judge him by his movies, then wtf are we supposed to judge him on?

 

[Midnhtsun]

Clive Owens would be a great choice!

Clive own would be too much of a intense badass. Even Snake would be intimidated by Clive haha

 

[Advanced Dark]

^ Are we confusing Snakes personality with Kurt Russel's personality? I think you are. I do NOT want whoever plays snake to copy Kurt's performance at all. Keep the core character traits but the actor who plays Snake should make it his own.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

They shouldn't have got him for the role anyway, I don't think that he would be able to effectively cover his accent but I could be wrong.

When did Mostow become a great director? He made the not awful but pretty damn useless Terminator 3, that in no way compared to the second one or first one for that matter and I'm not even a huge fan of the first poorly acted and shot first one.

 

[Advanced Dark]

well considering he's been in at least 1 film a year since he's become popular (with the exception of 2004) it's a pretty good-sized library to judge his acting abilities by. if we're not supposed to judge him by his movies, then wtf are we supposed to judge him on?

If he hasn't portrayed a character similar to Snake we can't assume anything. We also can't take a comedic performance, or his role in Contact and base your opinion on that either. Is he a good actor...yes. Does he look the part? Yes. Can he do it? That remains to be seen. Who thought Bruce Willis would be an action hero before Die Hard? Now he gets the big bucks for action films.

 

[Advanced Dark]

They shouldn't have got him for the role anyway, I don't think that he would be able to effectively cover his accent but I could be wrong.

When did Mostow become a great director? He made the not awful but pretty damn useless Terminator 3, that in no way compared to the second one or first one for that matter and I'm not even a huge fan of the first poorly acted and shot first one.

Mostow is a good choice for this. I think T3 was more of a money grab by Mostow than anything else. Howabout David Twohy to direct. Riddick was too much for him to handle but with a script already in place for EFNY, and with TWOHY's ability to tell a great story even with a bare bones budget it could work.

 

[tyler-durden]

I see spidey, He's not directing he's writng, something with working on the script

 

[Hunter Rider]

If he hasn't portrayed a character similar to Snake we can't assume anything. We also can't take a comedic performance, or his role in Contact and base your opinion on that either. Is he a good actor...yes. Does he look the part? Yes. Can he do it? That remains to be seen. Who thought Bruce Willis would be an action hero before Die Hard? Now he gets the big bucks for action films.

Willis was ten years young when he played McClane, Matthew has had plenty of action roles and his take on that character is to grin and be cocky, it's how he does, he isn't the brooding badass type.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Matthew has never really held the lead role in an action film. He's never been an action film headliner...at least not in any film of significance. Am I mistaken? He's always had a cast around him big enough to support him and the movie.

 

[Advanced Dark]

I see spidey, He's not directing he's writng, something with working on the script

He has the option to direct. Though I hope Namor is a priority for him.

 

[tyler-durden]

Besides that sahara flick, but iv'e never seen it, looked like crap.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Matthew has never really held the lead role in an action film. He's never been an action film headliner...at least not in any film of significance. Am I mistaken?

Sahara ? I'd say that indicates that he knows his strengths in the genre, Like Willis, who plays a riff on McClane in a lot of his action movies.

 

[Advanced Dark]

Sahara was ok but again that wasn't a real big action flick and he wasn't really a stand out, stand alone lead. He's never carried an action film. Sahara's action was mostly at the very end.

Matthew (in most films) has done a good job from comedy, drama, and his supporting roles in action and sci-fi. I think this could be a pivotal role for him. Whether he can do it or not has yet to be seen. I think he can do it.

 

[DorkyFresh]

If he hasn't portrayed a character similar to Snake we can't assume anything.

so basically you're saying we could consider ANY actor who has a good body and hasn't portrayed a character similar to Snake? that's quite a lot of actors there.....sounds like you're reaching for arguments to me.

Is he a good actor...yes. Does he look the part? Yes. Can he do it? That remains to be seen. Who thought Bruce Willis would be an action hero before Die Hard? Now he gets the big bucks for action films.

first...i don't think Matt looks the part. second, once again...Bruce Willis didn't have that many movies under his belt (same as Kurt) when he did Die Hard. Matt on the other hand has done a plethora of flicks. so once again, your comparison is flawed...

 

[Midnhtsun]

Matthew has never really held the lead role in an action film. He's never been an action film headliner...at least not in any film of significance. Am I mistaken? He's always had a cast around him big enough to support him and the movie.

And theres a reason for that? Because Matt is better suited at other roles.

The character of snake, how the story (not performance of Russel) is that he (snake) is looks out for himself, an anti hero and selfish.

 

[Advanced Dark]

so basically you're saying we could consider ANY actor who has a good body and hasn't portrayed a character similar to Snake? that's quite a lot of actors there.....sounds like you're reaching for arguments to me.


first...i don't think Matt looks the part. second, once again...Bruce Willis didn't have that many movies under his belt (same as Kurt) when he did Die Hard. Matt on the other hand has done a plethora of flicks. so once again, your comparison is flawed...

We're talking about Matthew M...not any actor. You can take what you want out of context to make another argument if you wish though.

Also are you crazy? Kurt had dozens and dozens of films, tv movies, and tv shows under his belt before Escape from NY. He's been acting since he was a child.

 

[tyler-durden]

I don't care anymore as long the film isn't crap.

 

[Advanced Dark]

The character of snake, how the story (not performance of Russel) is that he (snake) is looks out for himself, an anti hero and selfish.

What's your point? Are you saying Matthew cannot portray a selfish character. LOL I'm done arguing. If you don't think he looks the part or don't think he's right for the role whatever but...that argument is weak. So you're saying only actors who have portrayed selfish anti-heroes in the past can do it again? Please tell me how those actors got their first job then. LOL Good bye. I'm done with this argument but I'll be happy to talk about other actors for the role.

 

[Advanced Dark]

I don't care anymore as long the film isn't crap.

Ditto. I'd love that director of Night Watch/Wanted to get this gig. I'd crap myself and post the pic here.

 

[tyler-durden]

I wouldn't go that far he like to just do whatever he wants WANTED looks good, but it's nothing like the book.