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The Joker said:I dont care what they call it, but I'd sure pick some of the chicks in it's cotton...or something
Try again.
Evolution doesn't just skip races
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The Joker said:you try making a innuendo out of that
Yeah, I'd "pick her cotton", IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN!
There.
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Yeah, but you know what I mean, don't you? 
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The Joker said:...you win this round
And how many rounds have I won already? Yeah, you're my b****.
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Danalys said:
What are you talking about? There's no black people in England. Only cold, white ****mites live in England.
(And that's coming from a bisexual French-Canadian dude.
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Help me come up with a post to counter this post.
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Originally Posted by KaineDamo
Because that isn't how nature works. Is a white horse any more or less intelligent than a brown horse?
You act as if skin color is the only difference between Whites and blacks. It is not. Is the only difference between a Polar Bear and a Grizzly Bear the color of their fur? No, there are myriad differences. So it is with negroes and caucasians(I use these terms to draw focus away from skin color; "White" and "black" are shorthand terms).
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You don't see different coloured horses hating on each other.
Ascribing human emotions to horses is a dicey proposition.
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In order for white people to be superior naturally to black people, white folk would have had to have made some insane evolutionary leap in a very short amount of time, something akin to the X-Men (which is complete science fiction). You should read the X-Men books. They teach you about tolerance and stuff. So yeah, it's just not possible.
The X-Men are mutants. Mutation indeed can produce an "evolutionary leap" of sorts(though it doesn't always). Indeed, there was a controversial study released last year that indicated that pale skin in humans was a mutation. Many ignorant anti-racists misconstrued these results to make the claim that Whites were "mutant blacks" or somesuch. So the claim has been made(not by me, or anyone with any sense).
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Dude, it's practically civil war over there. You'd probably agree with me, the US is to blame. How in the heck are you supposed to force democracy on a whole nation? Who even said democracy was that great anyway? They were doing alot better before the US decided to invade.
You're proving my point that multiculturalism doesn't work. Iraq's population consisted of three distinct ethno-religious groups: Sunni Arabs, Shiite Arabs, and Sunni Kurds. The only reason they weren't tearing each other apart before was Saddam Hussein, whose iron rule kept things in check. Many observers believe that Iraq will ultiamately have to be divided into three automous mini-states. Separatism, just as WNs advocate for Whites.
In any case, WNs are generally against the war, so don't put that on us.
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I know what you said. My answer was sufficiant. It doesn't take millions of Italians to open up a few pizzarias.
Great, and White Western nations don't need mass immigration from China to enjoy Chinese food. That was my point. You were using the tired anti-racist cliche argument that "multiculturalism is good because I get to eat exotic food!", when the reality is that one doesn't need huge foreign populations in order to enjoy the occasional egg roll.
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Do you know what the NHS is? Hospital treatment isn't the same over here as it is in the US. I didn't have to pay a penny to any doctor! It's all done with taxes!
You just contradicted yourself. "I don't pay a penny....It's done with taxes!" Where, pray tell, do you think taxes come from? From YOU(or more realistically, your parents), and from everyone else. You do pay, everyone does.
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I really doubt Pakistani doctors in Britain are payed less, that REALLY wouldn't make sense. I'm sure it depends on their job description and the amount of hours they work. Does a black cop get payed less? No. Depends on high up they are and their hours.
A black cop doesn't get paid less, but immigrants do get paid less for a variety of occupations.
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That's not gonna happen, really. But let's say hypothetically, the black man was disappearing for some reason, becoming mixed into the white race and for some reason all the offspring all turning out white. That's just nature. We're all humans, it's more important to preserve the human race. It's going to get harder and harder to preserve humans over the next 100 years, nevermind races!!
Given the fact that there are more humans alive today than ever before in history, I see no reason to believe that humans in general are endangered. Whites, on the other hand, are getting fewer and fewer, and more troublingly, are being vastly out-numbered in our own countries.
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I do actually believe that we're in a spot of trouble, mostly due to climate change, and guys like you, and guys like Bush.
Guys like me and guys like Bush? I'm an environmentalist and I despise Bush. Why do you assume otherwise? Oh, I forgot, you've pigeon-holed me using your small-minded US VS THEM thinking(glass houses on that point).
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Stephen Hawking said our only chance of survival is to get some humans to colonize planets. Let's say, hypothetically, the human race was in deep crap. How would you feel then about racial mixing?
I would feel the same way. If the human race were in trouble, I would want to preserve that portion of the human race which has, historically, been the most beneficial to civilization. I refer, of course, to the White race.
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Oh dear God. Dogs didn't exist a few thousand years ago?? Humans are partly the reason why so many breeds exist. Could you back that up with proof at all? Man, seriously, you will find very few experts that would say evolution takes a few hundred years. Evolution isn't even a fully proven theory. If it only took a few hundred years, there would be NO question about evolution being totally true.
You're all over the map. Evolution isn't proven? The only people who don't buy evolution are those who object to it for religious reasons. Beyond them, it's accepted by basically everyone.
In any case, I hate to use wikipedia, but:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog
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Originally Posted by wikipedia's entry on "dog"
The dog is a mammal in the order Carnivora. Dogs were domesticated from wolves as recently as 15,000 years ago, or perhaps as early as 100,000 years ago based upon recent genetic fossil and DNA evidence.
See? Thousands of years. Even 100,000 years is still far short of the millions of years you spoke of.
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Glad we can agree about something. Except for the "don't care for Palestinians" part. Everything else, I agree with totally.
Oh please, you only oppose Israel because you view them as a White, Western civilization. Your anti-White hatred extends to jews, who most people wrongly see as part of the White race. If a non-White nation were oppressing White people, you wouldn't care. How do I know? Because people of your ilk never make mention of Zimbabwe, where White farmers had their land stolen, and were in many cases brutally murdered, by the black government. Actually, some leftists/anti-racists mention Zimbabwe, but only to applaud the genocidal actions of the Mugabe regime. In their eyes(and yours, mostly likely), genocide is a-ok, as long as the victims are White and the killers non-White.
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Originally Posted by KaineDamo
I have to bring up the dog thing again while I'm still thinking about it.
What you said, MisanthroPunk, is so completely ridiculous. Different breeds of dog aren't proof of evolution at work. C'mon now!! And your "dogs didn't exist a few thousand years ago comment". Are you serious? Are you for real?
See, this just goes to show what a house of cards your beliefs are. You HAVE to believe that somehow whites made some sort of leap, even though it's completely impossible.
I backed it up abve, and I was going to delete this part of your post due to its redunancy, but I left it in to illustrate your style of "debate:" you ignore any points I make, you ignore questions I pose, and when you do address something, it's only to say, "that's crazy!" without explaining yourself. At one point, you said separatism and domination were the same thing(to justify your interchangable use of the terms "White Nationalist" and "White Supremacist," despite my correcting you repeatedly). I asked you to explain how living separately from a group of people was the same as dominating them. You didn't answer.
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And if it were possible, surely black people would be better evolution wise because of all the breeding white people did in the USA.
Because of all the breeding? What does that even mean? Black people are better because White people reproduced? Black people did a lot of breeding, too...seriously, what are you trying to say? I thought it was a typo or something, but you repeated the same phrase in a later post.
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I've effectively prooved your beliefs are based on hypocritical rubbish.
You've "prooven" no such thing.
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Have you ever read 1984? I think some that crap is going on in your head. You know, the "DoubleThink" stuff. In other words, you lie to yourself to keep your beliefs intact.
Again, you're not posing an argument. You're basically saying, "you're wrong" again and again, in different phrasings.
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Originally Posted by KaineDamo
I'm pretty pleased with myself. As far as I'm concerned, I've won this argument. And it's your own fault really. Don't make dumb claims you can't possibly back up.
Again, you've won nothing. For the most part, you haven't even argued. Every time I make a point, you ignore it or say, "nuh-uh!"
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Evolution can't just skip races. That's not how evolution works.
"Skip races?" What does that even mean? Different populations of organisms, living separately in different environments, will evolve different characteristics. That IS how evolution works.
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Why would evolution skip the other races? Oh! Oh!! I know!!! It's a Christian thing! God favours white people, or something. Even though Jesus wasn't white. For some bizarre reason, God decided that white people, who came after the black people, should be superior.
More non-arguments.
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I gotta point this out again. If this weird view of evolution you guys had was real - very X-Men sounding evolution to me - the black people would be superior because of all that breeding the US did.
The second time you've used the same nonsensical wording. "All the breeding.." I'd ask you to explain yourself, but whenever I do that, all I get are chirping crickets.
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This is the only thing I really disagree with in your post. Part of the problem as I see it, is that the government doesn't do enough to help the poor in the US. This is evident in many things, such as the minimum wage and healthcare being so expensive. I agree with you that Americans need an attitude change, but not in the way that you're thinking.
The government doesn't do enough to help the poor? You really don't know what you're talking about. Of course, why would you, you don't even live in the US. You seem to be recycling all of the typical anti-American attitudes of European liberals.
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Teen pregnancies are so high in the US partly because of the heavy conservative view on sex education and sex in general, in my opinion.
Sex education is given in pretty much all high schools in the US, and condoms are widely distributed, especially in black neighborhoods. Seriously, try to know what you're talking about before you open your big yap.
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Countries with low teen pregnancies and low STDs have more and better sex education. People would disagree with me that more sex education is the way to go.
It isn't working in black and mestizo neighborhoods.
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The problems of crime are more complicated. I think that when an area is crime ridden, it's because of poor education and high unemployment. Better schools, more job opportunities, and you'll see a decrease in crime.
Then why are the poor areas of West Virginia that are populated by Whites less crime ridden than poor black neighborhoods? Crime correlates with race much moreso than it does with poverty. There are stats to back this up all over Stormfront. Again, educate yourself before you start spouting off.
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I think the US government just doesn't care or completely forgets about poor people.
More cliche European liberalism.
How old are you, 15?
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Originally Posted by KaineDamo
Because that isn't how nature works. Is a white horse any more or less intelligent than a brown horse?
You act as if skin color is the only difference between Whites and blacks. It is not. Is the only difference between a Polar Bear and a Grizzly Bear the color of their fur? No, there are myriad differences. So it is with negroes and caucasians(I use these terms to draw focus away from skin color; "White" and "black" are shorthand terms).
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You don't see different coloured horses hating on each other.
Ascribing human emotions to horses is a dicey proposition.
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In order for white people to be superior naturally to black people, white folk would have had to have made some insane evolutionary leap in a very short amount of time, something akin to the X-Men (which is complete science fiction). You should read the X-Men books. They teach you about tolerance and stuff. So yeah, it's just not possible.
The X-Men are mutants. Mutation indeed can produce an "evolutionary leap" of sorts(though it doesn't always). Indeed, there was a controversial study released last year that indicated that pale skin in humans was a mutation. Many ignorant anti-racists misconstrued these results to make the claim that Whites were "mutant blacks" or somesuch. So the claim has been made(not by me, or anyone with any sense).
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Dude, it's practically civil war over there. You'd probably agree with me, the US is to blame. How in the heck are you supposed to force democracy on a whole nation? Who even said democracy was that great anyway? They were doing alot better before the US decided to invade.
You're proving my point that multiculturalism doesn't work. Iraq's population consisted of three distinct ethno-religious groups: Sunni Arabs, Shiite Arabs, and Sunni Kurds. The only reason they weren't tearing each other apart before was Saddam Hussein, whose iron rule kept things in check. Many observers believe that Iraq will ultiamately have to be divided into three automous mini-states. Separatism, just as WNs advocate for Whites.
In any case, WNs are generally against the war, so don't put that on us.
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I know what you said. My answer was sufficiant. It doesn't take millions of Italians to open up a few pizzarias.
Great, and White Western nations don't need mass immigration from China to enjoy Chinese food. That was my point. You were using the tired anti-racist cliche argument that "multiculturalism is good because I get to eat exotic food!", when the reality is that one doesn't need huge foreign populations in order to enjoy the occasional egg roll.
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Do you know what the NHS is? Hospital treatment isn't the same over here as it is in the US. I didn't have to pay a penny to any doctor! It's all done with taxes!
You just contradicted yourself. "I don't pay a penny....It's done with taxes!" Where, pray tell, do you think taxes come from? From YOU(or more realistically, your parents), and from everyone else. You do pay, everyone does.
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I really doubt Pakistani doctors in Britain are payed less, that REALLY wouldn't make sense. I'm sure it depends on their job description and the amount of hours they work. Does a black cop get payed less? No. Depends on high up they are and their hours.
A black cop doesn't get paid less, but immigrants do get paid less for a variety of occupations.
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That's not gonna happen, really. But let's say hypothetically, the black man was disappearing for some reason, becoming mixed into the white race and for some reason all the offspring all turning out white. That's just nature. We're all humans, it's more important to preserve the human race. It's going to get harder and harder to preserve humans over the next 100 years, nevermind races!!
Given the fact that there are more humans alive today than ever before in history, I see no reason to believe that humans in general are endangered. Whites, on the other hand, are getting fewer and fewer, and more troublingly, are being vastly out-numbered in our own countries.
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I do actually believe that we're in a spot of trouble, mostly due to climate change, and guys like you, and guys like Bush.
Guys like me and guys like Bush? I'm an environmentalist and I despise Bush. Why do you assume otherwise? Oh, I forgot, you've pigeon-holed me using your small-minded US VS THEM thinking(glass houses on that point).
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Stephen Hawking said our only chance of survival is to get some humans to colonize planets. Let's say, hypothetically, the human race was in deep crap. How would you feel then about racial mixing?
I would feel the same way. If the human race were in trouble, I would want to preserve that portion of the human race which has, historically, been the most beneficial to civilization. I refer, of course, to the White race.
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Oh dear God. Dogs didn't exist a few thousand years ago?? Humans are partly the reason why so many breeds exist. Could you back that up with proof at all? Man, seriously, you will find very few experts that would say evolution takes a few hundred years. Evolution isn't even a fully proven theory. If it only took a few hundred years, there would be NO question about evolution being totally true.
You're all over the map. Evolution isn't proven? The only people who don't buy evolution are those who object to it for religious reasons. Beyond them, it's accepted by basically everyone.
In any case, I hate to use wikipedia, but:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog
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Originally Posted by wikipedia's entry on "dog"
The dog is a mammal in the order Carnivora. Dogs were domesticated from wolves as recently as 15,000 years ago, or perhaps as early as 100,000 years ago based upon recent genetic fossil and DNA evidence.
See? Thousands of years. Even 100,000 years is still far short of the millions of years you spoke of.
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Glad we can agree about something. Except for the "don't care for Palestinians" part. Everything else, I agree with totally.
Oh please, you only oppose Israel because you view them as a White, Western civilization. Your anti-White hatred extends to jews, who most people wrongly see as part of the White race. If a non-White nation were oppressing White people, you wouldn't care. How do I know? Because people of your ilk never make mention of Zimbabwe, where White farmers had their land stolen, and were in many cases brutally murdered, by the black government. Actually, some leftists/anti-racists mention Zimbabwe, but only to applaud the genocidal actions of the Mugabe regime. In their eyes(and yours, mostly likely), genocide is a-ok, as long as the victims are White and the killers non-White.
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Originally Posted by KaineDamo
I have to bring up the dog thing again while I'm still thinking about it.
What you said, MisanthroPunk, is so completely ridiculous. Different breeds of dog aren't proof of evolution at work. C'mon now!! And your "dogs didn't exist a few thousand years ago comment". Are you serious? Are you for real?
See, this just goes to show what a house of cards your beliefs are. You HAVE to believe that somehow whites made some sort of leap, even though it's completely impossible.
I backed it up abve, and I was going to delete this part of your post due to its redunancy, but I left it in to illustrate your style of "debate:" you ignore any points I make, you ignore questions I pose, and when you do address something, it's only to say, "that's crazy!" without explaining yourself. At one point, you said separatism and domination were the same thing(to justify your interchangable use of the terms "White Nationalist" and "White Supremacist," despite my correcting you repeatedly). I asked you to explain how living separately from a group of people was the same as dominating them. You didn't answer.
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And if it were possible, surely black people would be better evolution wise because of all the breeding white people did in the USA.
Because of all the breeding? What does that even mean? Black people are better because White people reproduced? Black people did a lot of breeding, too...seriously, what are you trying to say? I thought it was a typo or something, but you repeated the same phrase in a later post.
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I've effectively prooved your beliefs are based on hypocritical rubbish.
You've "prooven" no such thing.
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Have you ever read 1984? I think some that crap is going on in your head. You know, the "DoubleThink" stuff. In other words, you lie to yourself to keep your beliefs intact.
Again, you're not posing an argument. You're basically saying, "you're wrong" again and again, in different phrasings.
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Originally Posted by KaineDamo
I'm pretty pleased with myself. As far as I'm concerned, I've won this argument. And it's your own fault really. Don't make dumb claims you can't possibly back up.
Again, you've won nothing. For the most part, you haven't even argued. Every time I make a point, you ignore it or say, "nuh-uh!"
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Evolution can't just skip races. That's not how evolution works.
"Skip races?" What does that even mean? Different populations of organisms, living separately in different environments, will evolve different characteristics. That IS how evolution works.
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Why would evolution skip the other races? Oh! Oh!! I know!!! It's a Christian thing! God favours white people, or something. Even though Jesus wasn't white. For some bizarre reason, God decided that white people, who came after the black people, should be superior.
More non-arguments.
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I gotta point this out again. If this weird view of evolution you guys had was real - very X-Men sounding evolution to me - the black people would be superior because of all that breeding the US did.
The second time you've used the same nonsensical wording. "All the breeding.." I'd ask you to explain yourself, but whenever I do that, all I get are chirping crickets.
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This is the only thing I really disagree with in your post. Part of the problem as I see it, is that the government doesn't do enough to help the poor in the US. This is evident in many things, such as the minimum wage and healthcare being so expensive. I agree with you that Americans need an attitude change, but not in the way that you're thinking.
The government doesn't do enough to help the poor? You really don't know what you're talking about. Of course, why would you, you don't even live in the US. You seem to be recycling all of the typical anti-American attitudes of European liberals.
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Teen pregnancies are so high in the US partly because of the heavy conservative view on sex education and sex in general, in my opinion.
Sex education is given in pretty much all high schools in the US, and condoms are widely distributed, especially in black neighborhoods. Seriously, try to know what you're talking about before you open your big yap.
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Countries with low teen pregnancies and low STDs have more and better sex education. People would disagree with me that more sex education is the way to go.
It isn't working in black and mestizo neighborhoods.
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The problems of crime are more complicated. I think that when an area is crime ridden, it's because of poor education and high unemployment. Better schools, more job opportunities, and you'll see a decrease in crime.
Then why are the poor areas of West Virginia that are populated by Whites less crime ridden than poor black neighborhoods? Crime correlates with race much moreso than it does with poverty. There are stats to back this up all over Stormfront. Again, educate yourself before you start spouting off.
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I think the US government just doesn't care or completely forgets about poor people.
More cliche European liberalism.
How old are you, 15?
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Storm front is full of idiots. They have a thread there called Harry Potter white supremacy manips and it's just so stupid that they think that little bastard Slitheren kid is a good guy.
"Don't be a race traitor"
Shut the **** up Nazi!
"Don't be a race traitor"
Shut the **** up Nazi!
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kainedamo said:
lol
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Did you know a black man invented peanut butter? 
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And what the f*** does evolution have to do with this? Aren't most of these white supremacists "christian" anyway?
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I've only gotten into one argument with a racist and I didn't make any headway no matter what I said. Most racists just can't be turned and can't listen to reason...just like any fanatacist/fundamentalist really.
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KingOfDreams said:
Maybe you suck at arguing.
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Outsiderzedge said:
I've found that a baseball bat to the back of the head followed by a swift kick to the teeth will shut a bigot up quite well. But that's just me.
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jaguarr said:
Still thinking of me, eh???
Anyway, if you knew anything about me you'd know I don't believe in the macro-evolution of Darwin. It's never been proven. Never has it been proven that one species jumped to a totally different one. The fossil record has never found the "missing link". Yes....there is micro-evolution "within' in a species (i.e. adaptions to environments..etc). But never a snake to a bird or a monkey to a human. Why is everyone so surprised that Darwin's theory yeilds to racist dogma anyway?? IT IS RASCIST! It's predicated on survival of the fittest. Superior dominates inferior. He did plenty of work in which he believed the dark skinned man was slow and dumb.
But.......you guys are too smart to believe in Darwin right??
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TheSumOfGod said:I've found that a baseball bat to the back of the head followed by a swift kick to the teeth will shut a bigot up quite well. But that's just me.
pfft, you take the long way...I just go straight for there testicles with a dull hunting knife...
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Darwin's theories are not racist. In the wrong hands they can be twisted to seem racist.celldog said:Still thinking of me, eh???
Why is everyone so surprised that Darwin's theory yeilds to racist dogma anyway?? IT IS RASCIST! It's predicated on survival of the fittest. Superior dominates inferior. He did plenty of work in which he believed the dark skinned man was slow and dumb.
But.......you guys are too smart to believe in Darwin right??
The Bible is not racist, but in the wrong hands it can be twisted to seem racist.
The Lord of The Rings is not racist but (I **** you not) there is a forum at SF saying that LOTR promotes White Supremecy.
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Tangled Web said:
Well... the elves are presented as being an immortal, superior race, and they're all white with blonde hair and blue eyes, so...
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