Extreme Dc

[King Ruler]

Yeah, that sounds pretty good.

 

[King Ruler]

Is this still going on? Just wondering.

 

[owen_2006_294]

it's still going on if u guys want it to.

 

[Stealth_Prime]

Hi Owen and Members....

Is it okay for me to throw in? I'd like to contribute some ideas for the Extreme fanfic...and help out if I can.

In return, I'd appreciate some helpful critiques for my own stories.

Thanks.

 

[owen_2006_294]

u guys can throw in any ideas u want.

 

[Reader]

What's the status on this project? Are there any FINISHED 'issues/installments/whatevers' of Extreme DC. I didn't see any other threads. These will be separate threads when they're done, right?

Anywho...I was wondering if there is a place in Extreme DC for an 'Extreme Swamp Thing'? Technically he is part of the DC Universe (originally) and I'd like to be part of this project (in that capacity) if it's still 'happening'.

I figure no one else would be interested in the character, so I'll just do what I want with him and incorporate events / characters of the Extreme DC Universe. The origin and characters will be "updated" as characters were in Ultimate Marvel. (I think "updated" is the main focus of the Ultimate U. over changing things).

So, to whomever answers these questions: How's that for ya?

 

[owen_2006_294]

yes, there will be separate threads. it's still happening as long as u guys r interested. i need u guys to take control of the project since I'm busy getting ready to graduate from h.s. and developing a virtual series for OVN.

 

[Reader]

Well...I'll just write something and post it and yeah.

To Other Writers:

Should we come up with a short synopsis of what this 'Extreme DC' thing is? Just so people will recognize it as a 'brand'. I mean...it will be pretty obvious that it's just Ultimatized DC, but I still think if we could plop the same little paragraph in our thread before our stories then it would seem more like a shared 'universe'.

 

[Batman]

I have a few ideas for 'Extreme Batman'. I don't know if I'll be able to write it... but I may be able to post my ideas, if anyone's interested.

 

[Stealth_Prime]

I'm working on one story involving Batman and Flash....if there is anyone who is already involved in any of those two characters as the official writer...I'd like to work along side you guys.

 

[The Question]

Anyone mind if I just outline all of my ideas for it? You know, to get them out.

 

[owen_2006_294]

sure.

 

[The Question]

Okay:



Superman: We know the drill rocketed to Earth, last survivor of a doomed world, all that stuff. Here's what I'd change:

- Kryptonians look very inhuman. They are generally much lankier by nature, they have huge eyes, oddly shaped ears, no pigmentation in their skin or eyes whatsoever, four talon like fingers on each hand, flaps of skin underneath their arms that mark now vistigial wings, and they are completely hairless. Kal-El's ship, before opening, cosmetically altered him to apear human.

- On the night of the senior prom, Clark went with Lana Lang. Now, both Pete Ross and Clark had feelings for Lana, so this caused a rift between the boys. Now, after the prom, Clark and lana......well.....you know. Wink wink. After the session of sweet sweet love makin' down by the fire, Lana walked home, and Clark went up to the old town bridge to watch the stars. All the while, he followed Lana with his super hearing. Suddenly, he heard her scream. He rushed to her side. Later, authorities would report that a small tornado ripped through the corn feilds and dissipated as quickly as it formed. Clark found that Lana had been hit by a drunk driver (one of their classmates, no less). He was too late to save her, and she died in his arms. He and pete reconsiled, and shortly after graduation, he left Smallville and began traveling around the world. Of course, about four years later, he was contacted by Perry White, who was very impressed with some work he had done for newspapers in order to get some cash during his travels, and offered him a job.

- Superman's status in Metropolis is a bit different. He is quite mysterious. When there's trouble, he goes in, saves the day, and leaves as quickly as possible without even a word. Very few people get a good look at him, and even fewer get a good look at his face. He's not exactly an urban legend, like Batman. He's more comperable to the Loch Ness monster. People are facinated with him, tourists come to Metropolis to try and get a glimps of him, there are plenty of skeptics that doubt he actuall exists, and no one knows the **** what he is. Some say he's an angel, some say he's a demon, some say he's an alien, some say he's some ancient native american spirit, some say he's a mutated human, some say he's a hoax created by vigilante groups to put the fear of god into the criminal element, some say he's a hoax created by some smart pranksters, and some say he's just a figment of people's overactive imaginations. This, of course, makes it easyer for him to keep a secret identity without any kind of mask.

- Power wise, he's a bit scaled down. Think of his S:TAS or Man of Steel power levels, and you're about right. His punches exert a force equivalent to a tactical missile, and were he hit by a tactical missile, it would feel, well, like getting punched.

- No kryptonite.

Batman: He's still a vigilante, his parents were still killed by a mugger, and all that jazz. Changes:

- The reason the mugger that killed his parents didn't kill him was because he was shot dead by a rookie police officer before he could do so. The officer's name? Jim Gordon. Ever since, Jim's looked after Bruce. Because the mugger was killed by Gordon, Bruce has no vengance. Nothing to vent his greif and anger to. This leads to....

- His training. It starts when he's about fourteen. Because of his issues, he's getting into alot of fights. And losing badly. Eventually, Alfred and Leslie Thompkins (Bruce's doctor) decide that something must be done. Alfred calls up Ted Grant, a proffesional boxer and former military man who Alfred met when he used to work for the British government. Ted trains Bruce how to fight, making sure that he isn't likely to get the crap beat out of him again, and letting it be a way to vent his anger. Ted eventually starts teaching Bruce more in depth military hand to hand combat style moves, saying "Boxing, by itself, ain't gonna help you in a real fight. Learning how to think like a fighter, and learning what parts of the body break easiest, does." We also allude to Ted's mysterious past with the JSA.

Later, Bruce meets private detective and bount hunter, Henri Ducard, at a charity event. Bruce, intrigued by Ducard's craft and realizing that he may want to persue some sort of career in law enforcement, askss if Ducard could teach him some skills. So, over his summer vacation for the next two summers, Bruce and Alfred live in France while Bruce trains as Ducard's aprentice. Ducard teaches him tracking, forensic chemistry, and, most importantly of all, how to think like a detective. He takes Bruce on cases with him, has him read over his notes, and puts him through tests to train his analytical way of thinking. Eventually, Bruce becomes an acomplished detective, tracker, and tactitian under Ducard's tutilidge. One day, after completing a job, Bruce meets their client. A wealthy Arabic aristocrat named Ra's Al Ghul. Ra's, seeing potential in Bruce, offers to train Bruce in his school of Ninjitsu in Asia. Bruce, intrigued, accepts.

Over the next year or so, Bruce learns stealth, diguise, and how to use misdirection and mind games to fight his oponent. He also becomes a skilled swordsman and staff fighter very quickly, having already been an acomplished combatant in the first place. While at Ra's Al Ghul's school, he meets his daughter, Talia. The two become fast friends, and very quickly fall in love. However, that all came crashing to the ground when Bruce realized Ra's Al Ghul's true nature. Ra's was a wanted international terrorist. He had recently lead an atack on a small town near the acadamy with his "elite" class. However, they had been found out, and the town malitia was coming for them. While angry at Ra's, Bruce agreed to help defend the school. During the fight, Tallia was killed. In a fit of rage and greif, Bruce lashed out, killing several of the townspeople. After the battle, empty without Talia, angry at Ra's, and disgusted with himself for what he had done, he left. He spent the next year or so wandering Aisa and Europe. He eventually made his way back to Gotham, just in time for his 21st birthday.

- The suit. It's all black, and made primairily of a nylon/spider silk weave. It's padded with Kevlar, and especially padded on the chest and back. These areas are also reinforced with ceramic platting. The gloves and boots are leather, and are reinforced with ceramics in the toes and knuckles. The mask comes in two parts. One is the basic mask, which is like a regular ninja mask. The other is the cowl. It's kind of like an old leather football helmet that covers the eyes. It's black leather, is padded with kevlar, and is armored in some places with ceramics. The lenses are Lexcorp starlight night vision lenses that he purchased. The cape is made of the same material as the suit, and connects to his torso by a black metal clasp shaped like a bat that atatches to his chest. The belt is a standard military style utility belt. In it, he carries boomerang like shuriken of his own design he calls "batarangs," a colapsable bo staff, flashbangs, flexi cuffs, smoke pellets, a taser, and several sedative blow darts. he keeps the blow gun in his boot.

- He uses a black motorcycle designed to run as silently as possible and make him look like a giant pat like demon flying through the streets to someone seeing him pass buy. When not in use, it folds up to resemble a giant bat and hangs from fire escapes or the sides of buildings.

- The cave. Basically, it's just where he keeps all of his stuff and where he goes to think.

Wonder Woman:

- First off, Themyscera is not female exclusive. There are men there. Lost of men. It's just, they live in seperate villaiges from the women and are used only for breeding. They have their own ruler, who answers directly to the queen of the amazons. Due to advanced eugenics and use of preformance enhancing herbs in their every day diet, the Amazons are naturally much faster, stronger, and tougher than your average human. Diana, the queen's eldest daughter, was born rather sickly. Using the best their scientists/mystics (the line between science and magic is very blurred in my version of the DCU, and the practices of Themyscera's scientists reflect that) had to offer, Diana's physical abilities were enhanced through a combination of surgury, exposure to certain mutinagenic vapors found on the Island that are generally used for religious perpouses, and deep meditation. It worked far better than anyone expected, making Diana vastly superior to anyone on the island. Powe wise, she's comperable to Superman in terms of strength, speed, and durability. The procedures also gifted her with great inteligence, making her one of the foremost thinkers on the island. When Themyscera finally made contact with the outside world, they had to choose an ambasidor. By Themyscerian law, the Amazons shall be represented by the strongest, wisest, most compasionate, and most skilled of all their warriors. It was quite obvious that Diana fit the bill. Arming her with both weapons of war and symbold of peace, Diana became Themyscera's ambasidore, a title which, in the Tjemyscerian language, roughly translates to "Woman of Wonder."

- The outfit. Diana has three basic outfits. One is a white mini robe/toga thing that she wears when she's off hours and relaxing. The second is what she wears to diplomatic meetings. It's a set of red and blue grecko/roman ceremonial robes, adorned with bird and star patterns. The third is what she wears when fighting. It's her usual costume with some changes. The red part is leather, the gold parts are metal. The gold eagle on her chest goes up more, covering her chest for the most part, and atatches to the back with straps. She wears a dark blue leather armored skirt, which is adorned with a star pattern at the very bottom. Her bracelets are silver and cover her entire fore arms. Her boots are a little above knee high, are metalic, and are silver and red. They also give her the ability to fly. Her weapons of choice are her lasso, a sword, and a battle axe. The tiara is the same.


I'll post more later.

 

[Spectre722]

didn't you already post these?

 

[The Question]

Here? I don't think so.

 

[Spectre722]

dude those sound very familiar, i know u posted them somewhere

 

[The Question]

I posted them in some threads a while go, but not here.

 

[Spectre722]

ah...there ya go. i knew i heard it somewhere

 

[Batman]

I'm not sure of the 'sure.' was for both of us, But I might aswell share my ideas anyway... If anything, to get them out there...

Batman: 2000 (A title I was working with. Obviously, if these were used for this, they'd go under the title of Extreme Batman)

I think the most drastic changes from the normal continuity are in regards to Bruce Wayne, not Batman. For starters, Bruce wouldn't be the high class socialite that he is in the comics. He'd be more of the modern day celebrity... A male version of Paris Hilton. In the public's eye, at least.

At only 21 years old, He'd go to clubs, and be photographed drinking, dancing, and flirting with numerous young women near his age, some of them even being celebrities. Then, he'd be photographed leaving with one or two, and be spotted the next morning leaving an expensive hotel with messy hair and ruffled clothes. Not only that, but he'd have dumb quotes in magazines when asked about economic growth and the like, futhering his stereotype as a young, spoiled heir who wouldn't know a martini glass from a checking account.

The reality? That is all a guise. He wouldn't even really drink. Like the Bruce Wayne in normal continuity, He puts on a facade for the public, intentionally making everyone think he couldn't possibly be the man that he really is. At night, He's the Batman we all know. Smart, mysterious, intimidating, brooding, and fully equipped with many martial art forms and gadgets... A criminal's worst nightmare. He'd basically be a younger, less experienced version of the Batman of mainstream continuity... Possessing many of the same traits. (Even morally, considering this Batman also wouldn't kill or use a gun, like his DCU counterpart)

Another change would be that Bruce wouldn't be the CEO of an industrial company. He'd be the financial backer to one of Gotham City's leading hospitals, doing no actual work in the field of surgery or doctoring, but attending all the big meetings, paying the bills, and attending all the public events sponsored by the hospital. Lucius Fox would be the head surgeon, having started the hospital with Thomas Wayne nearly two decades ago, and would also be the manager, only answering to Bruce and his superiors.

And since the hospital would naturally not have ties to the miltary, Some of Batman's equipment would actually be alot of customised surgery tools (IE: Batarangs made from surgical knives aswell as scissors and evidence bags, anethesia), aswell as alot of stuff Bruce would discreetly buy out of the country and aqquire in his pre-Batman travels. (Bolas, Grappling launchers/hooks, Smoke pellets, Gas pellets, Flash Grenades, Hearing devices)

Another? Bruce Wayne's name. Unlike his counterpart in the DCU, Bruce's full name would be Thomas Bruce Wayne IV, with his father being the III. However, due to the confusion among the Wayne houseold at an early age, He would be called Bruce by everyone, so it wouldn't be a common mention. The tabloids would call him Bruce, the news... Even Alfred. The reason behind this is that it would sound more royal... With Bruce being the unoffical 'Prince Of Gotham' under his parent's legacy.

Oh, and speaking of Alfred... He would serve two jobs. One, as Bruce Wayne's butler, and another as his personal assistant, taking care of filing at the hospital and managing contracts. Having access to top of the line computers, Alfred would also be an invaluble source to Batman, who would need Alfred to look up any information when he couldn't get it himself. They'd communicate alot through the radio and microphone devices equppied in Batman's cowl.

Jim Gordon would be a Morgan Freeman in 'Se7en' type of cop, in appearance and personality. Though he'd be Commisioner from the get-go. The problem is, that would be more of a title than anything, since Loeb would have him on a tight leash, only being authorised to do things Loeb wants and not what's needed for Gotham. At first, he'd be heavily against Batman, seeing him as more of an addition to the problem than a help since Batman could possibly inspire more vigilance in Gotham. However, Batman would save his daughter and son during a hostage situation, prompting the inevitable alliance.

The origin would be more or less the same. He sees his parents gunned down infront of him. Wages a war on crime. Trains with the very best of the world to perfect his mind and body. Comes back to Gotham years later. Becomes Batman. However, there are changes. Bruce would actually have aspirations of being a lawyer beforehand, mostly due to his two best friends have the same aspirations. He'd even persue a degree before realising that he'd rather fight against injustice for the people of Gotham, and go off on his travels.

Those two best friends? Harvey Dent and Rachel Dawes. Harvey would start out as District Attorney, but would eventually be demoted to Assistant DA under Janice Porter, due to Mayor Gillian Loeb's affair with her. Rachel would start out as Assistant DA, but like Harvey, be demoted to a lessor role... Secretary. This would obviously create alot of hostility towards the corruption of Gotham City on personal levels with the two. Later on, they'd be allied with Batman, not aware he's actually their former best friend.

The Batmobile would be a modified street racer, equipped with armor and even a custom turbo nitrogen engine allowing Batman to evade police at higher than average speeds. The Batsuit would be a leather suit, laced with a layer of kevlar and a cape made of materials designed to look like leather, but in actuality be alot more flexible. (Yes, it would look like the designs in WIZARD Magazine. The illustrations along with Batman Begins and other mediums were the inspirations for this.)

I'd go into details about the villians such as The Joker, Sal Maroni, Penguin, Two-Face, Scarecrow, Mr. Freeze, Catwoman, Ra's, and others... But I'm running out of space for this post alone. Plus, I want to see what others reactions are to what I have so far before I go too far with it.

That said... Have I completely and utterly disgraced the Batman mythos? Or is there a chance any of this stuff is... good?
​

 

[The Question]

Not bad ideas all around. Here's more of mine:



The Flash:

- The origin. Basically, it involves Barry's childhood friend, Edward Thawne. Thawne, after college, became a world renound biochemist, while Barry became a forensic specialist for the Central City PD. Edward has, for the lst few years, been working on preformance enhancing technology. His current project is a bio engineered nano virus designed to rewrite human DNA, using traits found in animals are a base for the rewrite, plus some things he came up with on his own. His latest sample is designed to simulate the high speed movements and internal proccesses of several animals such as Cheetahs and Humming Birds. However, all of his test subjects' imune systems have killed the nano virus before it could have any effect. Eventually, Edward movd back to Central City, and being the friend that he is, Barry helped him move into his new lab. While helping move some equipment, there was an accident. Barry was badly electrocuted. When this happened, his hand smashed into a vail of the nano virus. Barry spent th next several weeks in the hopsital. Miraculously, Barry recovered very quickly, although his apitite went through the roof. Barry, soon, discovered that he had gained superhuman abilities.

- The powers. Barry's top speed would be at about mach ten. It would be explained that the reason he can move so fast for so long is that his body absorbs kinetic energy and converts it into fuel. That's also why he doesn't kill himself when he hits things while moving at high speeds.

- Secret identity. Barry would try the mysterious hero thing for about a week, but after a fight with some bank robber with a freeze gun calling himself "Captain Cold," Barry would make his powers public. He would, quickly, become a local celebrity. He'd apear on shows like Riply's believe it or not, he would apear in comercials for sports drinks and power bars, and would basically be the guy in town who everyone knows. He would still be a CSI< and most of his super heroing would happen through his role as a cop. Basically, he's not as much "that super hero" as "that cop with powers." After going public, he would normally wear his Flash suit with no mask, and usually his lab coat or blue CSI jacket and a pair of sunglasses over it.

Green Lantern:

- Oa would be the center of the United Planets, which was set up by the Gaurdians milenia ago. It's like the universe's U.N. The delegates from a million different worlds go there to meet. The Gaurdians and the corps serve as the primary enforcement of intergalactic law and serve as special forces against major intergalactic threats. Each sector has two Green Lanterns, who serve as partners. They respond to planetary and system wide threats, which, thankfully, don't tend to happen enough to warrant more than two GLs per sector.

- Ring's workings. The rings are capable of manipulating plasma, which is stored in vast amounts in their ring which uses a miniturized black hole to contain it all. The plasma can be fired as energy blasts, and be shaped into force feilds, allowing the wearer to withstand injury and fly. The plasma can also be shaped into anything the wearer can imagine, although it took on the form of a complex machine, it wouldn't neccessairily hve that machione's functions. Such as, if a Green Lantern made a time machine with his ring, it probably wouldn't allow them to travel through time unless they knew in intricate detail how to make a time machine. And even then it may not work, because the ring wouldn't generate the proper matwerials. The ring's range of effect is incredibly vast. Wearers have been able to create constructs the size of cities and generate enough force to destroy several cities. A group of ten Green Lanterns were even able to move a small planet a bit on one occasion. The rings can also alter matter to a small degree, enabling the wearer to sinthisize whatever they need to breath, allowing them to survive in the vacume of space. They cannot, however, make complex structures out of nothing that aren't constructs. The rings are also capable of activating warp gates. The warp gates are scattered all across the universe, and are apart of the sub space transport web created by the Spider Guild millenia ago. Using the subspace web allows a Green Lantern to travel great distances almost instentaniously,. thus allowing them to atend to matters on the other side of their sector or travel to Oa. Other functions of the ring include translation, scanning, and access to the Universal Information Cortex, which is alot like the internet and TV combined. Also, there's no yellow weakness.

- Hal Jordan. While on a test flight, Air Force pilot Hal Jordan is pulled into the desert by an unknown force. He finds himself in a large crater, and sees what look like two alien beings in it. One alive, and one quite obviously dead. The living one says that his name is Abin Sur. He is a member of the Green Lantern corps, and his partner is dead. Hal is the replacement. At first, Hal is hesitant, but soon accepts. He's taken to Oa to be trained, and soon becomes the protector of his sector. Of course, after crashing a jet and disapearing for two weeks, he's dishonorably discharged from the Air Force, and has to become a test pilot. Through his travels as a green Lantern, he meets two others, Sn Estroh, and his partner, Killowog. They, along with Abin, train him. Eventually, however, it is discovered that Sn is corrupt, and has actually conquered his homeworld and put it under a military dictatorship. He claims that the Corps' idea of peace and order is flawed, and that people need such things forced upon them. Killowog, Hal, and Abin try to stop Sn, leading to a battle just outside of Earth's orbit. Sn Estroh kills Abin, and Hal and Killowog manage to subdue him. Both now in need of new partners, two Earthmen are chosen. Jon Stewart, an architect and former marine, is chosen as Hal's partner, and Guy Gardner, an old high school friend of Hal's an a current Gotham City homicide detective, is chosen as Killowog's.

Aquaman:

- Atlantis is a city that was once populatied by a great and advanced civilization that sunk beneath the waves. All of the prigional inhabitants are now dead. The current ihabitands are mutated speicese of marine life. You see, do to centuries of polution in the ocean, the gene pool is severely ****ed up. That eventually caused a jump start in their evolution. Eventually, these mutated creatures find Atlantis, master it's technology, and make it their home. There are many different speicese in Atlantis, all with similar traits. There is a race of apmphibious, humanoid sea creatures with dark green and orange scales, two webbed fingers with a thumb, black eyes, and more than a few fins, who are the most common. There are also a highly advanced speicese of Octopus, Dolphins, Crustacians, and Sharks. Orin is one of the first speicese. When he was a baby, his older brother, Orm, usurped the throne of Atlantis and banished Orin. Orin survived in the wilderness in a Tarzan like manner, eventually coming to the surface and meatinga fisherman named Aurthur Curry, who looked after him. He eventually became a sort of myth amung sailors, who called him "the Aqua Man." While exploring the sea, he met Vulco, a dolphin like creature who was once his mother's grand advisor. Learning of his heratige, Orin led a resistance against his brother, defeating him. He reclaimed the throne of Atlantis shortly there after.

- Powers. Like all Atlantians, Orin posseses vast supehuman strength, sped, and durability, which allows him to survive at the ocean's depths. Because he was physically active and fighting for his survival from an early age, Orin is in amazing physical condition for an Atlantian. He's roughly comperable to Superman in terms of power. Orin is also a mutant, possesing highly impressive telepathic abilities.

- Outfit. Another speicese that populates Atlantis is a highly evolved and inteligent speicese of krill, who live in a symbiotic relationship with the Atlantians. Because of his telepathic abilities, Orin can comunicate and comand the Krill. His clothing is made up of them, and can morph to suit his needs. While swimming, they become a skin yight suit. While in battle, they become body armour. While on a mission to the U.S., they become diplomatic atire. When on land, the suit contains enough moisture in it to keep him from getting dehydrated as quickly as he normally would. He can also, on land, form wing like fins with the suit that enable him to fly. He often carries a trident that can discharge electrical blasts into combat.

Martian Manhunter:

- How his powers work. He has no natural physical form. His body is a hive mind of single celled organisms. His natural form is green goo. He can form into any shape he wants, and can even walk through walls. He is telepathic, for that is the natural way of comunication for his people. He is capable of flight, super strength, and "martian vision" because he uses his shapeshifting to simulate the organs neccessairy to have these abilities. When he does this, they're quite similar to Superman's internal workings.

- J'onn has many aliases across the globe. His most usefull one is John Jones, an agent for the D.E.O. and director Bones' right hand man.

- Also, the details of J'onn coming to Earth are a bit different. His race was wipped out by a war, not a pyrokinetic plague. You see, the Martians had split into two seperate tribes. The White Martians and the Green Martians. The two tribes were always rivals, and they eventually went to war. J'onn was a police officer (on Mars, the title was something along the lines of "Manhunter") before the war broke out, and became a soldier once it started. Eventually, the war led to the White Martians invading the capital. A group of White Martians broke into the power plant housing Mars' main source of power: The blue flame of Ma'aleca'andra. Protex, leader of the group and wartime rival of J'onn, did battle with J'onn. J'onn was defeated, and Protex and his squad of two hundred proceeded to shut down the blue flame. However, their information on how to use the technology was flawed, and they caused the blue flame to explode. They were able to cover themselves (and J'onn, by sheer luck on his part) in what remained of the flame's containment feild, while the rest of Mars was consumed in blue flame. J'onn and the squad of White Martians were the only survivors. J'onn was then able to escape in the confusion, and to punish Protex and his squad for their act of genocide, used what remained of a warp gate generator to trap them in the "Still Zone," a dead universe used as a prison by Martian authorities (and the same dead universe as Krypton's "Phantom Zone). Completely along, J'onn burried his dead, and finally, having nowhere else to go, preped a ship and headed for Earth. He crash landed in the Atlantic ocean, swam to a small boat, climbed on board, and assumed the guise of a human. He landed on Ellis Island in New York on February 12th, 1857.

 

[The Question]

Anyone like?

 

[owen_2006_294]

I'm not sure of the 'sure.' was for both of us, But I might aswell share my ideas anyway... If anything, to get them out there...

Batman: 2000 (A title I was working with. Obviously, if these were used for this, they'd go under the title of Extreme Batman)

I think the most drastic changes from the normal continuity are in regards to Bruce Wayne, not Batman. For starters, Bruce wouldn't be the high class socialite that he is in the comics. He'd be more of the modern day celebrity... A male version of Paris Hilton. In the public's eye, at least.

At only 21 years old, He'd go to clubs, and be photographed drinking, dancing, and flirting with numerous young women near his age, some of them even being celebrities. Then, he'd be photographed leaving with one or two, and be spotted the next morning leaving an expensive hotel with messy hair and ruffled clothes. Not only that, but he'd have dumb quotes in magazines when asked about economic growth and the like, futhering his stereotype as a young, spoiled heir who wouldn't know a martini glass from a checking account.

The reality? That is all a guise. He wouldn't even really drink. Like the Bruce Wayne in normal continuity, He puts on a facade for the public, intentionally making everyone think he couldn't possibly be the man that he really is. At night, He's the Batman we all know. Smart, mysterious, intimidating, brooding, and fully equipped with many martial art forms and gadgets... A criminal's worst nightmare. He'd basically be a younger, less experienced version of the Batman of mainstream continuity... Possessing many of the same traits. (Even morally, considering this Batman also wouldn't kill or use a gun, like his DCU counterpart)

Another change would be that Bruce wouldn't be the CEO of an industrial company. He'd be the financial backer to one of Gotham City's leading hospitals, doing no actual work in the field of surgery or doctoring, but attending all the big meetings, paying the bills, and attending all the public events sponsored by the hospital. Lucius Fox would be the head surgeon, having started the hospital with Thomas Wayne nearly two decades ago, and would also be the manager, only answering to Bruce and his superiors.

And since the hospital would naturally not have ties to the miltary, Some of Batman's equipment would actually be alot of customised surgery tools (IE: Batarangs made from surgical knives aswell as scissors and evidence bags, anethesia), aswell as alot of stuff Bruce would discreetly buy out of the country and aqquire in his pre-Batman travels. (Bolas, Grappling launchers/hooks, Smoke pellets, Gas pellets, Flash Grenades, Hearing devices)

Another? Bruce Wayne's name. Unlike his counterpart in the DCU, Bruce's full name would be Thomas Bruce Wayne IV, with his father being the III. However, due to the confusion among the Wayne houseold at an early age, He would be called Bruce by everyone, so it wouldn't be a common mention. The tabloids would call him Bruce, the news... Even Alfred. The reason behind this is that it would sound more royal... With Bruce being the unoffical 'Prince Of Gotham' under his parent's legacy.

Oh, and speaking of Alfred... He would serve two jobs. One, as Bruce Wayne's butler, and another as his personal assistant, taking care of filing at the hospital and managing contracts. Having access to top of the line computers, Alfred would also be an invaluble source to Batman, who would need Alfred to look up any information when he couldn't get it himself. They'd communicate alot through the radio and microphone devices equppied in Batman's cowl.

Jim Gordon would be a Morgan Freeman in 'Se7en' type of cop, in appearance and personality. Though he'd be Commisioner from the get-go. The problem is, that would be more of a title than anything, since Loeb would have him on a tight leash, only being authorised to do things Loeb wants and not what's needed for Gotham. At first, he'd be heavily against Batman, seeing him as more of an addition to the problem than a help since Batman could possibly inspire more vigilance in Gotham. However, Batman would save his daughter and son during a hostage situation, prompting the inevitable alliance.

The origin would be more or less the same. He sees his parents gunned down infront of him. Wages a war on crime. Trains with the very best of the world to perfect his mind and body. Comes back to Gotham years later. Becomes Batman. However, there are changes. Bruce would actually have aspirations of being a lawyer beforehand, mostly due to his two best friends have the same aspirations. He'd even persue a degree before realising that he'd rather fight against injustice for the people of Gotham, and go off on his travels.

Those two best friends? Harvey Dent and Rachel Dawes. Harvey would start out as District Attorney, but would eventually be demoted to Assistant DA under Janice Porter, due to Mayor Gillian Loeb's affair with her. Rachel would start out as Assistant DA, but like Harvey, be demoted to a lessor role... Secretary. This would obviously create alot of hostility towards the corruption of Gotham City on personal levels with the two. Later on, they'd be allied with Batman, not aware he's actually their former best friend.

The Batmobile would be a modified street racer, equipped with armor and even a custom turbo nitrogen engine allowing Batman to evade police at higher than average speeds. The Batsuit would be a leather suit, laced with a layer of kevlar and a cape made of materials designed to look like leather, but in actuality be alot more flexible. (Yes, it would look like the designs in WIZARD Magazine. The illustrations along with Batman Begins and other mediums were the inspirations for this.)

I'd go into details about the villians such as The Joker, Sal Maroni, Penguin, Two-Face, Scarecrow, Mr. Freeze, Catwoman, Ra's, and others... But I'm running out of space for this post alone. Plus, I want to see what others reactions are to what I have so far before I go too far with it.

That said... Have I completely and utterly disgraced the Batman mythos? Or is there a chance any of this stuff is... good?

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awesome ideas.

 

[The Question]

More of my ideas:


Robin:


- The origin, at it's very basics, is more or less the same. His parents were circus acrobats who were killed by the mob when their circus wouldn't pay protection. The main differences is that they'd simply have been shot, mafia exicution style, and Dick would be older. More like fifteen than twelve. He goes into the orphaniges, but runs away. Wanting revenge, he dons his father's preformance costume plus a black ski mask, and goes to try and kill the mobster who he knows killed his parents. He breaks into the guy's house, gets the crap beaten out of him by the gaurds, and is taken into the city to be killed. Luckily, Batman shows up and saves him. Batman enquires to him as to what he was doing, and the story is told. At first, Batman tells Dick that he should quit now before he gets himself killed. But, soon, he realizes that Dick isn;t going to quit. So, he decided to make sure he at least doesn't get himself hurt. He has him train with Ted Grant in how to fight, gives him a place to stay, and supplies him with the gear he'll need. Soon, he hits the streets. His relationship with Bruce is more like older brother/younger brother than father and son.

- The costume is quite different. First off, no cape. It's a completely black suit with a full faced mask. He wears a dark red kevlar vest, and goggles with green lenses. He also wears a golden R pin on the vest. His father had given it to him when he was ten. Weapons wise, his arsenal is more or less the same as Bruce's, although the batarangs are dropped in favor of a sling that he uses to fire metal balls at targets.

The Joker:

- Basically, his origin is the same, but with no Batman. A failing comedian low on money, he gets a job working for the mob to support his pregnant wife. However, after a screw up, the mob kills his wife and unborn child, and dump him into a vat of toxic chemicals. When he comes out, he's horribly scarred from head to toe, but alive. Crawling to an old abandoned theater/opera house, he heals, stealing what food he needs to survive. Eventually, to hide his scars, he begins wearing head to toe clothing. Soon, he finds a mask to cover his face. It is a white porcelin harkequin mask. All of the tragidy and hardship in his life had forced him to become what he always wanted to be as a child. A clown. He completely snapps. Using his skills in chemistry, he hunts down and kills the mobsters who killed his family. However, it leaves him feeling completely empty. And so, inspired by his grief, he decides to do what all good comedians do. Open people's eyes to the truth. The truth that all life is is an utterly cruel joke. That the world is nothing but chaos and tragedy. But, he shows the world not through his words, but through his actions. By spreading as much chaos and tragedy as possible.

- His gang would be a bunch of street gang members, homeless people, and juvinile delinquents who he's manipulated into following him. In that respect, it's sort of like Charles Manson's "family." They would not be thugs in suits, but isntead resemble "The Jokerz" from Batman Beyond.

Two Face:

- Origin is mostly the same. Except, instead of the acid to the face, a bomb is planted in his house. In the blast, his wife is killed, and the left half of his face is horribly scarred. Now, he had always been a very hard working guy. Because of his strict upbringing, he learned to puch the Id (or desire) to the very back of his mind. This caused him to become incredibly stressed, and eventually re****ed in occassional violent mood swings. After his scarring and the death of his wife, the Id came to the forefront. The Harvey Dent persona went away, and was replaced with a personality who could deal with it all. What remained was Two Face. Someone who wanted everything Harvey wanted, but didn't give a crap about the consiquences for trying to atain them. He began hunting down mobsters and criminals, especially ones who got off in court but were obviously guilty, and killed them. Shot two bullets into their heads with a 22. hand gun. Still wanting some sense of justice, and being somewhat influenced by Harvey's morals, Two Face flipped a coin. Heads, he spared his victims. Tails, they die. Let fate decide, he said.

- Harvey would also have been a childhood friend of Bruce, although a few years older than him.

Killer Croc: He would be a mob leg breaker with a power lifter's build and a skin condition. Plain and simple.

Mr. Freeze:

- His condition. Instead of being caused by an accident, he was instead born with an unusually high core body tempurature and no sweat glands. This, of course, means that he cannot survive out of cold tempuratures. He became a scientist to try and figure out ways to make his condition easyer to live with for him and other people like him.

- His wife contracts some illness, and he diverts all of his reaserch to helping her. However, that's not what his employers want. So they cut his funding. Enraged, he puts his wife into cryogenic stasis. he then dons a prototype suit of his design, and alters it slightly. It boosts his strength and durability considerably, and he can vent excess coolants from his suit outward from nozels in his gloves as offensive weapons. He procceeds to rob several buildings owned by his former employers.

- The end is where I'd really change things. Instead of his wife dying and him completely going off the deep end, Batman offers to help him fund his wife's recovery. Soon, Freis is getting funds in prison from Wayne Enterprises, and is well on his way to helping to cure his wife's condition. Bruce also, calling in some favors, gets Freis out of jail early. Freis, feeling indebted to Bruce, becomes Batman's tech guy, building high tech gagdets for him when he needs it and things like that.

Poison Ivy: A highly over zelious eco terrorist who's imunized herself against hundreds of natural poisons and diseases. This, of course, enables her to carry such poisons in her system and deliver a kiss of death. She fights Batman when she and her group begin killing several owners of sewage and chemical proccessing plants. Her main change is the costume, which would be alot more practical. More like a green jump suit.

The Riddler:

- He's basically the criminal who wants to prove he's better than everyone else. It starts out with him going on and winning a bunch of game shows. Eventually, bored with that, he deiced to commit some thefts and leaving clues to mess with the police. His latest crime is kidnapping a bunch of people in Gtham and giving the police 24 hours to find him before he exicutes all of them. Now, he doesn't actually want to kill anybody. If the police fail, he'd simply let the hostages live. But, he wants to prove his superiority. And, he wants a worthy challange. A proper game of wits. Comissionor Gordon and Batman provide that for him.

- His costume would be a bit different. No question marks all over the suit. Just green pants, a green jacket, black shoes, a plack shirt, a green bowler hat with a purple band, purple gloves, green lensed sun glasses, and a purple tie with a golden question mark tie pin.

Scarecrow: I'd keep him basically the same, except give him a long, tattered brown coat. He wants to get revenge against his former employers. He fails. When he gets out of the Asylum, he aims to get revenge on Batman and the cops. Since he can't find Batman, he'll settle for killing cops.

Penguin: Short, slightly overweight mob boss with a long nose. He's the kind of guy who likes to pretend he's high society British when he's really a punk kid from a pooer family in Gotham. Is actually a rather acomplished hand to hand combatant.

Black Mask: Mob boss. Psychotically obsessed with masks. Was a childhood friend of Bruce Wayne. When his parents died in a fire, he went crazy. When the company he inherited went under, he disapeared, crafted a new identity for himself as The Black Mask, and formed his gang.

The Mad Hatter: A very lonely man, Jervis Tetch found comfort in his favorite book, Alice in Wonderland. Eventually, he began to act and dress like the Mad hatter, to the point where he believed he was the Mad Hatter. He began kidnapping people, and forcing them to play out the parts of the different Alice in Wonderland characters, to populate his fantasy world.

Calendar Man: Suffering from severe multiple personality disorder, Julian Day's personality changes depending on what day it is. On monday, he thinks he's the god of the moon. On tuesday, he's a hardened military general. On Wednesday, he's a wise old man with one eye. On Thursday, he's a hard drinking warrior. On Friday, he's a wedding planner. On Saturday, he's severely paranoid and will kill and eat anyone he doesn't trust. On Sunday, he's quite cheery and nice. And, there's the holodays. On Halloween, he kills people and sacrifices them to the pagan god Samhain. On Christmas, he delivers toys to poor children. On Valentines day, he plays the part of the matchmaker. On Arbor day, he's un unneccessairily violent ecological conservist. He's basically severely ****ed up in the head, is what I'm saying here.

Ten Eyed Man: A former special forces marine who now serves as the leader of a gang of bank robbers, coordinating their heists with military precesion. After being blinded after getting a flashbang between the eyes, he went througha surgical procedure to regain his sight. He now sees through tiny video recorders on his fingertips that link to his optic nerves.

Catwoman: A theif who likes to play Robin Hood from time to time. The main change with her costume is that she has no mask, but instead a pair of goggles and a cat ear headband.

KGBeast: The former soviet union's atempt at creating a super soldier. He's got enhanced strength, speed, and durability, plus a machine gun that atataches to his hand. Now, he sevres as a leg breaker for the Russian mob in Gotham.

Bane: Same story. He's in Gotham as muscle for hire, and has fought Batman several times. He's currentl working fro The Black Mask against his father, The King Snake. Speaking of which.....

King Snake: A blind mob boss from Britain. He's a highly skilled hand to hand combatant. Bane's father.

 

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i think Scarecrow should also have a scythe. i think that is a strong image of the 'extreme' version of Scarecrow is have him the same with a long tattered trenchcoat with a scythe.

 

[The Question]

Yeah, I guess a cythe would be cool.