Fat Tonie Doesn't Know Anything About Football

[FaT_tONle]

So I heard the whole debate over my local radio... and I just wanted to know where NFL fans stood on the issue. Lemme clarify the options of the poll so there is no confusion.

1. Each team guaranteed one possession. Sudden death after one possession each no matter what.

2. Mandatory punt/field goal attempt on fourth down for ensuing possession. This is an intriguing option. Eliminates the team that receives the ball second from getting an extra down to match or exceed what the opposing team did on the opening possession during the ensuing drive.

3. First TD wins game. Field goals can not win the game on the opening possession. Field goal can not win the game until every team gets at least one possession.

4. Extra OT period (8-15 minutes). If game remains tied at the end the game ends in a tie. Go to a sudden death period during post season.

5. Similar to college format. Each team gets the ball at the 25 or 50 yard line.

6. Team that wins toss MUST start possession at their own 20. Eliminates good starting field position since most teams start at their own 30-35 after the return. This forces teams to drive at least 40-50 yards before getting into field goal range.

7. No change... it is perfect as it is.

8. Other.

(Poll Forthcoming)

 

[Matt]

I say keep it as it is. These are professional defenses. There is no reason they should not be able to get the stop and get their offense the ball.

 

[Kaleb]

Make it so that Field Goals are not counted, only way to score is to get a td.

 

[bunk]

Make it so that Field Goals are not counted, only way to score is to get a td.

This would be the only option I'd consider.

If you're defense cannot come through in a clutch, then you lose the game. It isn't that complicated.

 

[FaT_tONle]

I like teams starting at their own 20... my big radio guy Mike Francesa here in NY loves the idea. It makes sense. You need a darn good kicker and insane special teams to stop a team from getting passed the 20 yard line on the kickoff return. Kickers kicking at their own 30 sometimes barely kick the ball within the opposing ten yard line on the kick off. This balances out the field position... taking into account both an offensive/defensive/special teams oriented game.

Make it so that Field Goals are not counted, only way to score is to get a td.

Yeah this is the second best option IMO... but you look at games like Philli/Cinci (the tie) or Jets/Raiders where offenses can't get out of their own way... you'd need to go to sudden death after the first possessions each. It's a doable option. San Diego would have still won the game Saturday because of the TD.

 

[Kaleb]

This would be the only option I'd consider.

If you're defense cannot come through in a clutch, then you lose the game. It isn't that complicated.

exactly.

 

[Addendum]

It works fine as is.

 

[Matt]

Special teams are just as much a part of the team as an offense and defense. Making teams start from the 20 or not counting field goals in overtime are punishing teams who have spent time and money to hone their special teams and rewarding teams who did not. If I'm the coach who spends a good amount of time working on kick returns or training my kicker to make the 50 yard field goal, I'd be pretty pissed if they implemented these rules.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Special teams are just as much a part of the team as an offense and defense. Making teams start from the 20 or not counting field goals in overtime are punishing teams who have spent time and money to hone their special teams and rewarding teams who did not. If I'm the coach who spends a good amount of time working on kick returns or training my kicker to make the 50 yard field goal, I'd be pretty pissed if they implemented these rules.

Yeah but you could say if you had a good returner... it's not fair that you win the toss and begin the period with that given advantage. Why let a coin flip decide that? Just start at an even perspective with regards to field position.

 

[KALEL114]

It's fine as it is. If you don't get the ball first, then your defense should do it's job and get the ball back for you.

 

[Matt]

Yeah but you could say if you had a good returner... it's not fair that you win the toss and begin the period with that given advantage. Why let a coin flip decide that? Just start at an even perspective with regards to field position.

And if the other team pays proper focus to their special teams, they will stop the good returner from giving their opponent great field position.

 

[KALEL114]

Yeah but you could say if you had a good returner... it's not fair that you win the toss and begin the period with that given advantage. Why let a coin flip decide that? Just start at an even perspective with regards to field position.

The advantage is that the team owner paid to have that kick returner and paid to have the special teams to do it's job, which is to give you the best possible field position.

 

[FaT_tONle]

And if the other team pays proper focus to their special teams, they will stop the good returner from giving their opponent great field position.

I am just saying... it balances out since the team gets the ball back after half time if they didn't already receive the ball to begin the game. But now with OT you are going to skew the thing again and grant a team an extra kickoff return? The receiving team ALWAYS has the advantage with the kickoff no matter how bad a return man they have back there.

 

[Matt]

I am just saying... it balances out since the team gets the ball back at half time to start if they didn't already to begin the game. But now with OT you are going to skew the thing again and grant a team an extra kickoff? The receving team ALWAYS has the advantage with the kickoff no matter how bad a return man they have back there.

That's total nonsense. The return team does not always have the advantage. And it doesn't balance anything out. It rewards laziness in teams who did not properly prepare their special teams and punishes the teams who spent the time, money, and effort to make their special teams unit strong.

 

[FaT_tONle]

That's total nonsense. The return team does not always have the advantage. And it doesn't balance anything out. It rewards laziness in teams who did not properly prepare their special teams and punishes the teams who spent the time, money, and effort to make their special teams unit strong.

It's nonsense to get an extra kickoff return. How many teams really begin inside their own twenty after a kickoff? With punts you have the OPTION of kicking it out of bounds. You can't do that on a kickoff. So why grant a team an extra kickoff when they know they get a free return or start at the 40 yard line?

 

[Addendum]

Because the kickoff in overtime is done the exact same way as the kickoff to start the game. It all depends on who wins the coin flip and the winner of the flip decides

 

[FaT_tONle]

Yeah but you are starting only a third half... not a full game. Since the other team does not get a return...

 

[Addendum]

So? The other team has their chance to make a stop or get an interception

 

[Matt]

I'm with Addendum, what is your point Tonie. Why have a special teams unit if they can't perform in a clutch situation? Why have a defense if they can't make a stop?

 

[Cmill216]

Wanna get the ball back?

Play defense.

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[ih8nyy]

I say keep it as it is. These are professional defenses. There is no reason they should not be able to get the stop and get their offense the ball.

You can't let a coin flip determine the outsome of a game.

Do it NHL Shot Out Style. Both teams get a certain # of chances starting from their own 20. 2 minute drill style.

 

[Showtime]

No change.

 

[Immortalfire]

Leave it be. If you want the ball back, play defense.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Okay guys WTF... Immortal... I admit it... I am a Bulldog fan... been a fan for life... I only am so negative about that team because I am deeply hoping inside that they prove me wrong one day and win a Championship. That's why I am always dissing the Bulldogs... I am SECRETLY rooting for them. Now can we change the freaking title of the thread please?

 

[Showtime]

I changed it a bit.