Favorite Single/Multiplayer Game of All Time

[Fading]

I agree with kez. Just because something is new to you doesn't mean it's new to the rest of us as well.

I haven't played Mass Effect so can't comment on that topic, but agree with this. Too many games are being called innovative anymore when they are really just refining what other games have done. Bioshock may have given us a good FPS experience mixed with choices, but Deus Ex did it a decade earlier, and System Shock did before that. I still enjoyed Bioshock tho, I just wouldn't say it was the first, it just refined what others had done before it (just using Bioshock as an example).

 

[Swordmaster]

Single Player: Kingdom Hearts or Devil May Cry 3
Multiplayer: Super Smash Bros. Melee, Rock Band, or Halo 3.

 

[Soapy]

Sure they are. We've never seen a game like Mass Effect. The way it tells it's story, the cinematic feel it gives you. The dynamic speech trees to the dynamic combat. The freedom it gives you. Name one other game, just one, that allows you to travel the entire galaxy and explore worlds. You can land on them and mine the elements, or just explore and uncover crazy side missions. And the side missions are so well scripted you think it was part of the main story. You might be able to think of a game where you can travel the galaxy, but none where you can land and uncover dozens and dozens of side stories that alone would put most games main stories to shame.

And Mass Effect is also well known as being the first game where your custom character doesn't have to look like crap.

Oh, and it also got a lot of attention for being the first game to have in game characters having realistic eye movement which I think is what makes the game look so real.

Yes, you're landing on planets, but as kez said you aren't really travelling anywhere. You're selecting a point on a map and then you explore that point. You're not traversing any sort of "physical" space.

I haven't played Mass Effect so can't comment on that topic, but agree with this. Too many games are being called innovative anymore when they are really just refining what other games have done. Bioshock may have given us a good FPS experience mixed with choices, but Deus Ex did it a decade earlier, and System Shock did before that. I still enjoyed Bioshock tho, I just wouldn't say it was the first, it just refined what others had done before it (just using Bioshock as an example).

I agree. For the record, I liked Bioshock. But people were treating it as revolutionary when, as you said, Deus Ex did the same thing earlier and arguably better. It might be alright for gamers to think such a game is innovative when they're ignorant of what has come before, but it really bothers me when the games press treat these games in the same manner when they know better. Just something that bugs me.

 

[DACMAN]

You aren't traveling the entire galaxy, you are traversing between maps, they done the same with Baldur's Gate.

I don't mean to be mean, but you're crazy. Baldur's Gate and Mass Effect are nothing alike. I mean seriously, I can't tell if you're kidding or not.

 

[DACMAN]

I haven't played Mass Effect so can't comment on that topic, but agree with this. Too many games are being called innovative anymore when they are really just refining what other games have done. Bioshock may have given us a good FPS experience mixed with choices, but Deus Ex did it a decade earlier, and System Shock did before that. I still enjoyed Bioshock tho, I just wouldn't say it was the first, it just refined what others had done before it (just using Bioshock as an example).

But you can oversimplify any game and see that it just refined something that came before it. GTA didn't create the free-roam game, Body Harvest came before it. And before that you had games like Zelda that let you travel anywhere just from an over head view. They all refined on it. Wolfenstein wasn't the first FPS it just did it the best and got the most attention. Maze War was the first FPS shooter ever. But guess what? All it did was refine the idea of going through a maze in 3D. It's those "refining" moments, when done well, that make a game innovative. Otherwise, nothing really should be considered innovative.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Single Player: MGS series

Multiplayer: Street Fighter III

 

[Spider-Vader]

Single Player- Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2/ Call of Duty 4
Multiplayer- Halo 3

I have sadly not played as many Single player games as Multi-player. I might do a re-cap this Christmas (Bioshock, Mass Effect, Fallout 3).

 

[SuperFerret]

I'd just like to say that I've never found anything enjoyable in many of the games that've been posted. Halo is just blah, God of War is so much of a forced attempt to be "badass" that it's lame, and Mass Effect is probably the most pretentious game I've ever tried playing.

That's just me of course, but I've been holding back for a bit and needed to vent.

 

[Isildur´s Heir]

Single Player - Tons...but, to simplify, anything from Bioware, Blizzard, Valve and Epic
Multiplayer - Halo 3

And just to throw another one

Series - Half-Life, Gears of War, God of War and Halo

 

[Lucien]

Best multiplayer ever has to be Mario Kart 64. I had some great times with that game.

Singleplayer is harder for me to choose. I think i'll be boring and say Final Fantasy VII.

 

[DACMAN]

I'd just like to say that I've never found anything enjoyable in many of the games that've been posted. Halo is just blah, God of War is so much of a forced attempt to be "badass" that it's lame, and Mass Effect is probably the most pretentious game I've ever tried playing.

That's just me of course, but I've been holding back for a bit and needed to vent.

I don't think it was as much pretentious as much as smart, well written, and politically savvy.

Metal Gear games. Now that's pretentious.

 

[DACMAN]

Oh something else that sets Mass Effect apart from the others is the fact that even though the graphics are maybe the best ever, all the NPC's look totally different and actually have very distinct personalities.

 

[SuperFerret]

I don't think it was as much pretentious as much as smart, well written, and politically savvy.

Metal Gear games. Now that's pretentious.

Nope. It's very pretentious, but then I don't play video games for "political savvy". I play them for fun, and Mass Effect is not.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Oh something else that sets Mass Effect apart from the others is the fact that even though the graphics are maybe the best ever, all the NPC's look totally different and actually have very distinct personalities.

Definably has some of the best models but I think quite a few games trump it.

 

[DACMAN]

Nope. It's very pretentious, but then I don't play video games for "political savvy". I play them for fun, and Mass Effect is not.

It was often slow, I'll give you that. As you can see I love Gears 2 and going from Gears to Mass Effect is very jarring. You really need to be in a mood for that kind of game. It's very plot/character/theme driven. Watch this and tell me Mass Effect isn't all that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy-eRfupYbA

And to be honest, I think he left out some of the better ones. One of my favorite was

Turian Council member- "You humans have a saying. Even a broken clock is right twice a day."

Shepard- "Yeah. Here's another one: GO TO HELL!"

 

[SuperFerret]

I still say it's a pretentious game. It's also a shining example of the type of game that's driving me away from video games. I'd say I'm outgrowing them, but it's not as cut and dry as that.

 

[DACMAN]

Definably has some of the best models but I think quite a few games trump it.

What really blows me away about the models is the eye movement. It's very realistic. I just made another character that looks just like my wife. It is practically photo-realisitic! I love it.

But seriously you've seen better? I'm not being argumentive, I'd really like to see what game you're talking about. Because Mass Effect blows me away I'd love to see something better.

 

[Rukus]

Single/ Resident Evil: Original and Remake

Multiplayer/ Rainbow Six Vegas 2

 

[DACMAN]

I still say it's a pretentious game. It's also a shining example of the type of game that's driving me away from video games. I'd say I'm outgrowing them, but it's not as cut and dry as that.

Man. You must really hate that game. I hate Metal Gear Solid like crazy. The giant robots. The anime inspired everything, and the corny dialogue. The fact it thinks it's a much smarter game that it really is. The INSANELY long cut scenes, the hero having a mullet, the boring gameplay, the cluncky controls, and the way all the characters act WAY overzealous. It drives me crazy. But that isn't going to make me stop playing the games I love.

That's like watching Batman and Robin and swearing off all movies.

 

[Tron Bonne]

You guys must not have much self-esteem if you think objects without a mind or consciousness is somehow looking down on you or looming itself over you

 

[SuperFerret]

It's more about all the things you're touting it as great for that irk me. The photorealistic graphics, the near limitless immersion into the game world, the overly complex story, all just... ugh. Call me old school, but I prefer my games to be simpler and easier to get into.

A brick road against a blue sky backdrop and a mushroom walking sideways towards me is all the exposition I need.


And yeah, I might have a bit of a personal beef with the game, since my roommate's obsession with it's style nearly ruined my Dungeons and Dragons game, but that still doesn't change the fact that I think it's pretentious and the exact type of video game that I dislike.

 

[DACMAN]

You guys most not have much self-esteem if you think objects without a mind or consciousness is somehow looking down on you or looming itself over you

What? What the screaming crap are you talking about?

 

[Tron Bonne]

What? What the screaming crap are you talking about?

I still say it's a pretentious game. It's also a shining example of the type of game that's driving me away from video games. I'd say I'm outgrowing them, but it's not as cut and dry as that.

Nope. It's very pretentious, but then I don't play video games for "political savvy". I play them for fun, and Mass Effect is not.

I don't think it was as much pretentious as much as smart, well written, and politically savvy.

Metal Gear games. Now that's pretentious.

I'd just like to say that I've never found anything enjoyable in many of the games that've been posted. Halo is just blah, God of War is so much of a forced attempt to be "badass" that it's lame, and Mass Effect is probably the most pretentious game I've ever tried playing.

That's just me of course, but I've been holding back for a bit and needed to vent.

Kind of hard for something without a mind or knowledge of being to be that

 

[DACMAN]

It's more about all the things you're touting it as great for that irk me. The photorealistic graphics, the near limitless immersion into the game world, the overly complex story, all just... ugh. Call me old school, but I prefer my games to be simpler and easier to get into.

A brick road against a blue sky backdrop and a mushroom walking sideways towards me is all the exposition I need.


And yeah, I might have a bit of a personal beef with the game, since my roommate's obsession with it's style nearly ruined my Dungeons and Dragons game, but that still doesn't change the fact that I think it's pretentious and the exact type of video game that I dislike.

I guess. Seeing as how a blue sky and mushroom are enough exposition for you now (that was enough for me too when I was a kid) then I can see why'd you'd hate Mass Effect.

 

[SuperFerret]

Kind of hard for something without a mind or knowledge of being to be that

It's more the people who make the game that make it feel like that.

Also, see below, responses like that are full of pretense (especially the bold part), because clearly, since I enjoy games that are simpler than I myself must be simple as well.

I guess. Seeing as how a blue sky and mushroom are enough exposition for you now (that was enough for me too when I was a kid) then I can see why'd you'd hate Mass Effect.

The D&D thing was the whole "well, I want to talk to everybody and negotiate" attitude, when he knew that I wasn't running that type of game, but I've made peace with that.