The Avengers First Draft of Avengers Possibly Finish!!

[TheFuture]

Brian Michael Bendis updated his twitter again:

"spent the entire day reading the Avengers screenplay instead of writing the Avengers comic."

Is that a good thing though? The guy probably spent all day reading it cos he kept finding errors.

 

[Khemik@L]

Yep....I was up late and got THE FIRST AVENGER messed up with this thread's title FIRST DRAFT OF AVENGERS.

t: Well maybe its time for that Vacation you keep putting off

 

[C. Lee]

t: Well maybe its time for that Vacation you keep putting off

Not really....I was up late with my 3 year old that didn't want to go to sleep.

 

[Khemik@L]

OOOOH trust me buddy I know exactly what you talking about. When they don't wanna sleep aint nothing much you can do

 

[C. Lee]

I at least got to watch some Tom and Jerry cartoons.

 

[NEXUS 6]

You want to know what I find intriguing..... yesterday the 1st draft of The Avengers gets turned in then today Marvel Buys the domain name for the ant man movie. Maybe I'm thinking too much into this but could this possibly be due to Ultron being the big baddie in The Avengers thus them moving forward with Ant-Man to introduce Ultron?

I like where your head's at louie. Does anyone know if we have learned the unreleased 2012 Marvel film that was rumored? Also, didn't Avengers get pushed to 2013?

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Is that a good thing though? The guy probably spent all day reading it cos he kept finding errors.

the really good thing is the "instead of writing Avengers comic" part!

 

[NickNitro]

Anyone else think they could pull off tying Civil War into the Avengers film? Maybe hint at it at the very end? Have Tony ask Cap what he thinks about the new act SHIELD wants to impliment.

Idk just wishfull thinking I guess I always thought Civil War could be a great premise for an Avengers film/s

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I'm not a fan of Civil War so I would say no. I hated the comic and I also believe they really have extend the Marvel Universe greatly in order to work. They need more than the characters for the Avengers to have it fully work. With that said, you could get the opportunity to expand the Marvel Universe through the first and second Avengers films to set it up if it would happen.

 

[The IronMan]

Ick no civil war story line please. A huge threat that brings together a team of people with their own unique abilities that no one can stand up against

 

[Son of Coul]

Yes... then after that, civil war.

 

[Doctor Jones]

In a way this is exciting... in another this is Zak Penn writing...

 

[Son of Coul]

I think I said it in the Thor thread- With all the Marvel execs', the comic writers', the director's, and actors' inputs on this movie I don't think they'll let Zak Penn **** this thing up. He's more likely being used to structure the script and get the pacing down, all the while throwing in some of his ideas, due to his previous experience in the field.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Maybe. I just hope everyone at marvel knows what they're doing. I know they donb't hire dummies, but let's hope this film isn't for nothing; a buildup for the past four years with no payoff.

 

[MadVillainy]

I just hope that
-there is a cool villain that both The Avengers and regular SHIELD agents can fight. Like HYDRA for example
-That Giant Man and Wasp are in it and are cool
- That Hulk isnt the villain the whole time
-That it's kick ass

 

[mclay18]

In a way this is exciting... in another this is Zak Penn writing...

I won't be surprised if the eventual director of The Avengers ends up bringing their own set of writers to rewrite the script completely. Marvel's almost always done that for their own in-house movies, like the first Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk and Thor.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I hope so. Then we just gotta hope the director is good. But I think Marvel is smart enough to pick the right one. This isn't something you want to **** up and give it to a first time director or someone who is a screenwriter *coughJonahNolancough*

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Imo writing the film can and will be tougher than all the Marvel films because:

1. You can't put any of the heroes to the side. All of them will need their time to shine in the film.

2. The battles will have to be huge.

3. So does the villain.

I believe that if they go with Loki as the main villain it can be a pretty good film. It's gonna come down to having a director that can handle all of these characters. Any ideas?

 

[Doctor Jones]

Abrams. Been saying this for months. Favreau would be great but that's near impossible.

My idea for all of them to play apart in their own meaty roles goes like this:

Thor - Being that Loki is the main villain, Loki returns to Asgard and takes it over, banishing Thor from Asgard and never returning. He sends him back to Earth. Loki doesn't know about the Avengers. But Thor remembers what he told Fury about him working with them if they ever needed them (per the Thor articles) so he joins the team to save his kingdom and father and get Loki. So people question if he is really there to help or to help his kingdom.

Stark - We've discussed this, but Stark is disapointed by Cap He expects some great noble warrior and is disapointed. He sets his standards too high. He feels he needs to lead the team because Cap is adjusting so he feels that Cap can't do it. Which is where they butt heads. On leadership. Cap thinking his ways are good, but Stark doesn't feel it can work. He just doubts him because times have changed and doesn't believe he can follow through. It's no longer WWII. But eventually, Stark has to realize that Cap IS the true leader of the Avengers. Maybe Tony and Rogers have to do something together in the third act and work together. I see this like the Kirk/Spock relartionship in ST. Them not liking eachother at first but then they devlop a good camraderie. This is why I think Abrams can handle this.

Captain America - like I said, he is in a new time and century. No longer WWII. Enemies have changed, and so have heroes. Being that he was the only hero. But he has a hard time nderstanding and adjustiong to these new times, a point where Stark thinks he isnt' fit for the leader. But Cap has to realize he must step up and be the leader. It was never going to be the second he was unfrozen. It takes time to know what to do.

Banner - Banner is still hiding out in the mountains. Ross visits him by himself. He tells him they will leave Banner alone if he agrees to join a special team. Ross has made a deal with SHIELD to use him. Banner is reluctant and just wants to see Betty. He doesn't trust himself. Ross tells him face to face if he doesn't accept, they will come after him with force, eventually Ross will come after him, and he will be on the run again. Banner is the last member to recruit. SHIELD shows up when Bruce plans to leave the mountains. Rogers, Thor and Stark show up. Rogers wants to talk and believes Banner and the Hulk can be controlled and trusted. Stark is of course reluctant about it all. Which leads into the trust theme. When Banner runs, they anger him somehow. After Cap tries to subdue him, he fails, further questioning himself as a hero and suppose leader. Stark in his own ideals also fails. Thor eventually manages to defeat Hulk. Thy take him back to wherever and throw Banner in a cell. Which leads to Cap and Stark bashing heads about how to use him. Eventually he comes through in the end and they can trust Banner. He also accepts being on the team because he is wanted. At the end, Banner eventually sees Betty for the first time since TIH.

The overall theme is camraderie and trust. Trust in another and even in yourself. These heroes aren't all perfect. It addresses what it means to be a hero. It could come off as cheesy, but they need to get it right. These people have their share of problems, but hopefully they don't come off as *****ebags.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

You know the Civil War idea wouldn't be bad considering Civil War is about making super-heroes register and the Avengers movie starts by putting a goverment-sanctioned team together while there's no reasons to think there are threats coming. It reminded me of the early issues of The Ultimates when the goverment put all this money to create super-heroes, yet they have no purpose afterwards so they fight amongst themselves. In the current Marvel movie Universe there are Iron Man, Cap, Hulk, Thor and they can by themselves beat their villains. Why would they assemble as a group and need S.H.I.E.L.D. unless there is an ulterior motive? I think Fury wants the create a team so he can police the super-human element. And make sure everyone that comes out in the futur will have to join them or else.

That would be an interesing mix of The Ultimates, Civil War and the regular Avengers who started off beating the Hell out of another when Lee and Kirby came up with that book. Fury convince Thor and Tony to join his crew(that include Shield-trained Hawkeye and Black Widow). Convince Cap to lead it. First mission, stop the Hulk since Fury wants him on a leach and maybe join the Avengers. Of course he wants none of it and fight them. But then Cap realise they're starting to become goverment lap dogs. There's other super-human folks that the Avengers have to subdue and then Cap has an argument with Tony on the battlefield. Eventualy it could lead to all out confrontation with some choosing Cap's side and other choosing Iron Man's side(maybe you could do a surprise with Hawkeye leaving Shield and going with Cap). And at the 1:30 mark of the movie, there's a larger menace and both side join together to stop it. Then Cap agree with Tony's argument that a team like this should exist but Tony agree with Cap that it should be free of goverment red tapes. All the super-heroes leave on their own, form the real Avengers.

Epilogue: There's a deal made to work with the goverment in some manner. Last scene we hear a knock on the door, it opens and Henry Peter Gyrich(David Caruso) enters the room! t: