First look at G.I. Joe's Scarlett.

[DarknessOfDeath]

I like it...


*listens to Back in Black*

 

[Rac]

REALLLLLY?

What's so bad about that? It looks basically the same as the movie outfits.

 

[Mercurius]

I like it...


*listens to Back in Black*

Oh, I see: you are in the Sith side of the Force.

 

[ohbc07]

alright looks good.

 

[Timstuff]

So, has anyone heard anything as to whether or not the Scarlett / Snake Eyes love story will be represented in the film? Will it at least be hinted at / left open for sequels, or are they going to turn her into Duke's plaything, or worse-- *shudders* Marlon Wayans'? I really hope they don't mess their relationship up because it was always my favorite GI Joe ship... (not that there were many ships in GI Joe to begin with considering what a sausage fest their team is)

 

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

So, has anyone heard anything as to whether or not the Scarlett / Snake Eyes love story will be represented in the film? Will it at least be hinted at / left open for sequels, or are they going to turn her into Duke's plaything, or worse-- *shudders* Marlon Wayans'? I really hope they don't mess their relationship up because it was always my favorite GI Joe ship... (not that there were many ships in GI Joe to begin with considering what a sausage fest their team is)

Scarlett and SE are close. Ripcord hits on her; she rebuffs him. FInally, she changes her mind about him and tells him before he gets on a plane that SE is like a brother to her and she kisses him before he heads off on a dangerous mission.

 

[Timstuff]

Great, so we'll have to see Rachel Nichols suck face with Marlon Wayans...

I'm hoping that when they get around to doing a sequel, they'll make an attempt to start playing the Scarlett / Snake Eyes angle. Poor SE has suffered enough already without having to get dropped into the friend zone on top of it, y'know? Especially not for one of the Wayans brothers...

 

[The Guard]

I realize this is a change to the mythology but...

We know Channing Tatum has relatively little charisma, so who wants to see that
unfold onscreen with Scarlett? Besides, he's got The Baroness in his past and present conflicting with his "soldier's mindset", which works pretty well on paper.

Whereas Snake Eyes doesn't talk, mumble, or do much besides kick ass and look surly. That whole "Do they or don't they" thing between him and Scarlett works well in the comics and cartoon when you have episode after episode of small glances, awkward moments, etc, to build intrigue for a relationship, but it's not real compelling in a two hour movie, and it's difficult to flesh out. It will probably feel a bit more real if it's done over the course of several films.

The Ripcord/Scarlett relationship subplot, even though it's sort of a "Dance Movie" angle, is actually one of the more interesting elements of the script. It's one of the few sources of character development, and leads to some of the few humanizing scenes, some of which really allow Scarlett to shine. The writing lays some basic groundwork for a "close friends and teammates becoming lovers" thing to unfold between Scarlett and Snake Eyes, and it could also set up a "triangle" a la X-Men with Snake Eyes, Ripcord, and Scarlett, though it's not made obvious that Snake Eyes is interested at this point. In the script, Scarlett is unsure of herself and unfamiliar with matters of emotion and the heart, but fierce in battle. She's not really into relationships, so she and Snake Eyes wouldn't have been together anyway. Snake Eyes is protective of her, and they're close, but he doesn't exactly make any romantic overtures.

 

[TheVileOne]

Just shows lack of creativity that they had to go that route.

 

[The Guard]

How does creating something new show a lack of creativity?

Wouldn't sticking to the status quo in fact be less creative?

 

[TheVileOne]

Its not creative because they just said, "Oh we can't figure out a way to make this relationship compelling for a movie. So let's just stick the redhead with the black guy that can talk."

There's nothing creative about having the wisecracking goofball hitting on the hot girl who ultimately returns his affections at the end.

 

[TheVileOne]

Its not creative because they just said, "Oh we can't figure out a way to make this relationship compelling for a movie. So let's just stick the redhead with the black guy that can talk."

There's nothing creative about having the wisecracking goofball hitting on the hot girl who ultimately returns his affections at the end.

 

[The Guard]

I suppose that depends on your definition of creative. Mine involves an artist actually creating, not just using another artist's existing ideas.

This is not at all just "wisecracking goofball hits on the hot girl". If there just one scene of that happening or something, I'd give you that this was not creative at all. Instead, they've bothered to actually establish characterizations, test them, and develop them at least somewhat over the course of the film.

So by the general definition of creativity, it is creative. And it is, despite your objections, more creative than simply using an idea that existed.

I'm not saying it's better. I'd rather see her with Snake Eyes, and ultimately, they may well end up together. And frankly, if Snake Eyes and Scarlett end up together, rather than them just BEING together at the beginning of the franchise a la Cyclops and Jean Grey in the X-Men franchise, I wouldn't mind seeing how they got together.

I suspect what you all mean to say is "That's not very original".

 

[Timstuff]

Agreed... To me, stories about a couple coming together are a lot more interesting than stories about pre-established couples. There's a lot more sexual tension and build up, which makes it more satisfying when the characters finally end up together.

I want to see Snake Eyes and Scarlett together, but I'm OK with having to wait for a sequel. Maybe a little love triangle is in order, with SE being the Betty and Ripcord being the Veronica...

...man, TVtropes.org really is taking over my life.

 

[The Guard]

There's definitely more sexual tension and build up in stories about a couple coming together.

(Snicker)

 

[Timstuff]

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah. The script doesn't really imply they could get together later. Also if the first movie is a flop, then WE WILL NEVER SEE A SEQUEL WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP ANYWAY!

 

[Vile]

Also if the first movie is a flop

If?! IF?!

 

[Timstuff]

Keep dreaming. This movie will make money.

 

[The Guard]

Yeah. The script doesn't really imply they could get together later.

The script doesn't need to give away future story points. It hints that they are close, and that Snake Eyes is very protective of Scarlet, and that she is somewhat aware of his feelings about her, but that he's never made a move. The groundwork to go elsewhere is there.

Also if the first movie is a flop, then WE WILL NEVER SEE A SEQUEL WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP ANYWAY!

That's true. How about that? Then you'll have to fall back on the years and years of comics and cartoons that featured it.

 

[TheVileOne]

The script doesn't need to give away future story points. It hints that they are close, and that Snake Eyes is very protective of Scarlet, and that she is somewhat aware of his feelings about her, but that he's never made a move. The groundwork to go elsewhere is there.

You are interpreting way too much. Scarlett basically says she doesn't like Snake Eyes that way and wants to be with dumbass Ripcord for his dumbass bravery and all that ****.

That's true. How about that? Then you'll have to fall back on the years and years of comics and cartoons that featured it.

The cartoons never featured it.

 

[Bug-Eyed Earl]

I still think the most original thing to do would be to have Scarlett still dislike Ripcord in the end, but her attitude is that he's "a useful idiot."

It would have gotten the biggest laugh in the movie if he went to kiss her at the end before he got on that plane and she gently pushed him away and told him "You're out of your mind." because by this point the audience would have been expecting the cliche of "the funny but tough goofball wins over the hot girl who initially hates him."

 

[Timstuff]

Not only that, but it would be more realistic. I mean, how does hitting on a girl over and over again make them like you, anyway? It's not flirting unless it's two way...

 

[That-Guy]

Keep dreaming. This movie will make money.

It'll make SOME money, but unless you're planning on buying on 30,000 tickets just for yourself, you don't have any guarantee that it's going to turn a profit.

 

[TheVileOne]

Its a tough call IMHO. Hype name value alone could propel to the movie to success ala the first Tomb Raider and Fantastic Four.