Five DC Titles Set to End, Including Justice League United and Lobo

[Gee]

JLU, Gotham By Midnight, Lobo, Omega Men and Doomed. Also, Genevieve Valentine will leave Catwoman after her arc in November but will be on B&R Eternal.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/a...mber-including-justice-league-united-and-lobo

Shame. JLU has been great with Parker; it feels like a Brave and the Bold team-up in comics form. I've been enjoying GBM but at least it got the 12-issue commitment unlike Omega Men. And Catwoman is probably DC's best current book no one talks about... I hope Valentine gets another ongoing (hopefully WW or a Batwoman relaunch).

Never cared about that "Lobo" so I'm glad he's gone, though.

 

[Snow Queen]

I hope Valentine gets another ongoing (hopefully WW or a Batwoman relaunch).

Oh...why must you put that thought in my head? It sounds perfect but it's not going to happen.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Well that Justice League team just can't catch a break.

The artist taking over on Catwoman looks like she does really good work, though I believe a lot of people enjoy Catwomans current team which sucks.

 

[CrimsonMist]

JLU hadn't really reached it's potential. I thought it could have been a great book to explore the more obscure areas of the DCU.

Gotham By Midnight was my favorite of the bunch, though I have to admit I'm not surprised. The book never really seemed to go anywhere far. Monsters come, Corrigan may or may not turn into the Spectre. There was nothing deeper than that in the book.

However, DC should totally put Juan Ferreyra on another horror comic. He's be great on Constantine or Swamp Thing.

 

[-Arya-]

Update: 3 more DC titles canceled. Batman '66, Sensation Comics Featuring Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern: Lost Army

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/09/14/5-comics-have-been-cancelled-by-dc

 

[jonathancrane]

I am really disappointed they canceled Batman '66.

 

[hippie_hunter]

This is just pathetic.

 

[-Arya-]

It's a shame that some of these comics were presumably canceled to make way for more Batman related titles. I mean, we all know Batman comics sell like hot cakes, but this reliance on all things Batman could be a detriment in the near future. We will see.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Update: 3 more DC titles canceled. Batman '66, Sensation Comics Featuring Wonder Woman, and Green Lantern: Lost Army

http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/09/14/5-comics-have-been-cancelled-by-dc

 

[Cain]

This is just pathetic.

Blame the people who can't buy anything but mainstream Batman, Harley Quinn and the main Justice League book.

Some people such as myself did our parts in supporting a lot of these books (I buy B'66, Omega Men, Sensation, GL Lost Army and JLU every month) it's not our faults or DC's for that matter that it simply wasn't enough readers to meet their sales threshold.

The main problem with the comic book industry and it's monthly sales is the stubbornness and shallowness of the majority of people that buy floppies. If more people can't have it in them to flex their purchase range a bit and a experiment a bit with their pull lists then maybe both DC and Marvel should greatly limit and reduce their platforms. Just use mainline Justice League and Avengers books as a platform to cover the other characters.

 

[Cain]

It's a shame that some of these comics were presumably canceled to make way for more Batman related titles. I mean, we all know Batman comics sell like hot cakes, but this reliance on all things Batman could be a detriment in the near future. We will see.

It's capitalism and the market demand dictates where it goes.

If anything this makes it easier for people like me to cut some books and save some money. I will never stop buying the more obscure or niche titles but I learned long ago not to expect them to last long in the first place. So these type of announcements no longer phase me.

 

[LuiECuomo]

I was hoping we'd get to see a Batman '66 version of Ras al Ghul before the series ended. Oh well.

 

[hippie_hunter]

Blame the people who can't buy anything but mainstream Batman, Harley Quinn and the main Justice League book.

Usually I would, but in this instance it's really sad and pathetic that DC gives books like Omega Men 12 issue guarantees, only to revoke them. While the comic book buyer does deserve blame as well, DC also deserves blame for not even giving them a chance.

Some people such as myself did our parts in supporting a lot of these books (I buy B'66, Omega Men, Sensation, GL Lost Army and JLU every month) it's not our faults or DC's for that matter that it simply wasn't enough readers to meet their sales threshold.

Can you really blame buyers to not even want to try new books only for them to get canned so shortly? Why take the time and effort to invest in them as a reader if the story isn't even going to finish? Also, just what was DC's editorial thinking about some of these books even selling?

For me personally, I tried to buy DC's more obscure books in the past. I loved books like Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E., Infinity Man and the Forever People, Aquaman & the Others, Demon Knights, O.M.A.C., and I, Vampire. While DC gave some of them a chance, it's easy to get jaded when DC cancelled a bunch of them very quickly. I probably would have checked out a book like Omega Men, but even though DC promised 12 issues, I didn't trust them anymore.

In this instance it works both ways IMO.

The main problem with the comic book industry and it's monthly sales is the stubbornness and shallowness of the majority of people that buy floppies. If more people can't have it in them to flex their purchase range a bit and a experiment a bit with their pull lists then maybe both DC and Marvel should greatly limit and reduce their platforms. Just use mainline Justice League and Avengers books as a platform to cover the other characters.

I actually do believe that both DC and Marvel need to reduce and limit their platforms. They overdid it on a lot of their lines such as Avengers and Batman to the point where they are no longer guaranteed sellers for books.

Although I would say that the biggest problem is how awful the promotion has been for DC You. Asides from Black Canary and Martian Manhunter, I have had very little interest in DC's new batch of titles. Same with All-New, All-Different Marvel. They have given me little interest in their new books, especially when they are going to be charging $3.99 for them.

Instead, I have replaced what I have been dropping or losing from DC and Marvel, I have been replacing with other books that have caught my interest like Star Wars, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Jem & the Holograms, etc.

 

[Gee]

I agree that DC and the consumers are both to be blamed.

I'm still annoyed they couldn't keep their commitment of 12 issues. They definitely still should have gone to that number. Lesson learned? Maybe they should announce their next batch of new books as mini-series of four or six issues for some. If they sell well, expand to twelve and then to on-going series if they keep doing really good. That way, DC won't too look bad when a book's short run is over with mediocre sales.

 

[LuiECuomo]

Just spoke with Jeff Parker (writer for Batman '66) on Twitter and he implied that we may see Ras al Ghul in the U.N.C.L.E./Batman mini-series.

 

[jonathancrane]

YES! (to the Twitter news.)

DC is having the same problem Marvel had: over saturation of core books. In Marvel's case, it was too many Mutant and Avengers books, while with DC, it's too many Bat books. Seriously, they could fix the sales by having as follows:

DC

-Batman
-Detective Comics
-Batman/Robin
-Batwoman
-Batgirl

Marvel

-Uncanny X-Men
-X-Force
-Wolverine
-Avengers

 

[Snow Queen]

YES! (to the Twitter news.)

DC is having the same problem Marvel had: over saturation of core books. In Marvel's case, it was too many Mutant and Avengers books, while with DC, it's too many Bat books. Seriously, they could fix the sales by having as follows:

DC

-Batman
-Detective Comics
-Batman/Robin
-Batwoman
-Batgirl

Marvel

-Uncanny X-Men
-X-Force
-Wolverine
-Avengers

I just woke up and scanned over your post before really reading it. You got me excited since I thought Batwoman was announced to come back.

 

[Gee]

I just woke up and scanned over your post before really reading it. You got me excited since I thought Batwoman was announced to come back.

Don't be silly. If there's such announcement I'd be the first to create a thread about it.

 

[jonathancrane]

I am hoping for its return as well.
I have a framed issue signed by Amy Reeder hanging over my desk.

 

[Snow Queen]

Just so long as Andreyko isn't writing. I can do without obvious mysteries, contradicting plot points of the story you're wrapping up, going into space and rape apologizing.

 

[CrimsonMist]

Usually I would, but in this instance it's really sad and pathetic that DC gives books like Omega Men 12 issue guarantees, only to revoke them. While the comic book buyer does deserve blame as well, DC also deserves blame for not even giving them a chance.

Can you really blame buyers to not even want to try new books only for them to get canned so shortly? Why take the time and effort to invest in them as a reader if the story isn't even going to finish? Also, just what was DC's editorial thinking about some of these books even selling?

I suspect their revoking of the 12 issue promise may have something to do with all the money they lost during the move to CA, though this is merely speculation on my end.

I think your second point is a little unfair if only because new readers can't foretell the fate of these books. But I think DC hopes that new approaches to some of the fringe aspects of the DCU might be appealing if presented correctly.

On the flip side, to echo Cain's point, most readers seem to read only the popular books(and even then, some read them just to complain about how awful they are).

Me personally, I love the fringe books more than the major books as I like seeing what's going on beyond Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman and Justice League. This is why I thought the concept for Justice League United was so great.

 

[Gee]

I am hoping for its return as well.
I have a framed issue signed by Amy Reeder hanging over my desk.

Just so long as Andreyko isn't writing. I can do without obvious mysteries, contradicting plot points of the story you're wrapping up, going into space and rape apologizing.

If you haven't yet, check out the Bombshells series for your Batwoman fix. The Batwoman storyline is the best in that series even with only two digital chapters out of eight so far.

 

[Snow Queen]

If you haven't yet, check out the Bombshells series for your Batwoman fix. The Batwoman storyline is the best in that series even with only two digital chapters out of eight so far.

I pick it up in issues as I prefer not to read digitally, but I really enjoyed the first story of hers. Looking forward to the second in issue 3 and I got my shop to order the Kate and Maggie variant for it. Just wish we got another main continuity book going for her. I liked your Valentine suggestion in the other thread.



On topic though, I'll miss Sensation Comics. Not every story was great but it was a fun anthology series.

 

[Cain]

Usually I would, but in this instance it's really sad and pathetic that DC gives books like Omega Men 12 issue guarantees, only to revoke them. While the comic book buyer does deserve blame as well, DC also deserves blame for not even giving them a chance.

Can you really blame buyers to not even want to try new books only for them to get canned so shortly? Why take the time and effort to invest in them as a reader if the story isn't even going to finish? Also, just what was DC's editorial thinking about some of these books even selling?

For me personally, I tried to buy DC's more obscure books in the past. I loved books like Frankenstein, Agent of S.H.A.D.E., Infinity Man and the Forever People, Aquaman & the Others, Demon Knights, O.M.A.C., and I, Vampire. While DC gave some of them a chance, it's easy to get jaded when DC cancelled a bunch of them very quickly. I probably would have checked out a book like Omega Men, but even though DC promised 12 issues, I didn't trust them anymore.

In this instance it works both ways IMO.

I actually do believe that both DC and Marvel need to reduce and limit their platforms. They overdid it on a lot of their lines such as Avengers and Batman to the point where they are no longer guaranteed sellers for books.

Although I would say that the biggest problem is how awful the promotion has been for DC You. Asides from Black Canary and Martian Manhunter, I have had very little interest in DC's new batch of titles. Same with All-New, All-Different Marvel. They have given me little interest in their new books, especially when they are going to be charging $3.99 for them.

Instead, I have replaced what I have been dropping or losing from DC and Marvel, I have been replacing with other books that have caught my interest like Star Wars, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Jem & the Holograms, etc.

See I didn't know that EVERY series was guaranteed 12 issues. That is pretty foul and DC did **** up there. I thought it was just Prez (which will be getting 12 issues spread across 2 volumes). Then again it's also not the first empty promise I've seen from DC in the 28 years I've been reading their comic books. I have seen too many great series come and leave due to low sales for too long now to even take issue with such actions anymore. I've become numb to this kinda **** already.

It's more like a routine thing at this point but the funny thing is if you look at my decades long comic book collection you will indeed find a lot of oddball and obscure minis and cancelled series in the mix because to me it's like this overall : I buy these books because they appeal to me first and foremost. When they get cancelled I don't end up surprised nor am I discouraged.

Business is business so I don't take it personally. At the same time a good story is also a good story and I won't deprive myself of one because "it's not gonna last long anyway" or "it's not even in the main continuity" like some other people do. This is a key reason why the comic book industry remains so creatively stagnant. People keep calling for things but never put their money were their mouth is 9 times out of 10.

I can't quite get the sense in limiting one self to that extent. So in that sense I'll never stop giving any interesting be it niche or obscure a chance regardless of what publisher it comes from. I would've never discovered so many great books in my life if I ever thought otherwise.

 

[Gee]

Looking forward to the second in issue 3 and I got my shop to order the Kate and Maggie variant for it.

That's a beautiful cover even though I don't like the artist. That's an incentive variant; how much will you pay for it?

See I didn't know that EVERY series was guaranteed 12 issues. That is pretty foul and DC did **** up there. I thought it was just Prez (which will be getting 12 issues spread across 2 volumes).

Books that were not announced as a mini were promised a 12-issue commitment.