Foster Kid Taken From Parents Who Refuse To Teach Homosexuality

[The Evolutionist]

Divorce was detailed as sinful when there is no Biblically moral reason for it (i.e. "irreconcilable differences", which is more often than not used as an easy way of escape, because they don't want any inconvenience or sacrifice in the marriage). Jesus did say that when a spouse has been unfaithful, divorce is valid. that could apply to either spousal or child abuse, an extramarital affair, or any other means of degrading the solemn oath made to both each other and God.

No, Jesus said that when the WIFE is unfaithful, divorce is allowed (Matthew 9:19).

 

[Mr Sparkle]

I never said you or anyone else had to agree. I'm free to state my views, just as you are. That doesn't make me insane.

how can you have "views" on God's law?
you take what you want from it, and what's worse you use it to discriminate.
God says that the bond of marriage is unbreakable, but then you decide that God was wrong.
God says homosexuality is wrong.
you're a-ok with that one.

that's not about me agreeing you. it's about you agreeing with God.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

If the marriage covenant were completely unbreakable, Scripture would never have mentioned the virtues of divorce as an escape from danger or perversity, which it clearly does. As for my views and God's law, I've done my very best to mention each one in the proper context, and with an appropriate Biblical reference. I've answered countless questions from you and others regarding matters of Christianity (most questions more than once), and yet the same scenarios are always brought up, time and time again. If you ever have another question which I have not answered (regardless of whether you're satisfied with my response), I'll be more than happy to make a reply. But until then, I've grown tired of posting the same answers over and over. So, until someone asks a different question than the ones posted repeatedly, I'll remain silent on those subjects.

 

[cookiva]

Divorce was detailed as sinful when there is no Biblically moral reason for it (i.e. "irreconcilable differences", which is more often than not used as an easy way of escape, because they don't want any inconvenience or sacrifice in the marriage). Jesus did say that when a spouse has been unfaithful, divorce is valid. that could apply to either spousal or child abuse, an extramarital affair, or any other means of degrading the solemn oath made to both each other and God.

So what if your husband or wife decided to kill your children, rape their dead bodies, then poop all over the bed and you while you are asleep, you MUST stay with them????

 

[Arc-Light]

Moviefan2k4 how do you know what God wants.....

 

[cookiva]

Moviefan2k4 how do you know what God wants.....

He is Zeus.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

Because whether people choose to embrace it or not, God gave us His Word, both in the Bible and every human spirit. What we do with those resources is up to us. If you want further explanations on this, i suggest you go back a few pages. I've detailed many of my responses there.

 

[cookiva]

Because whether people choose to embrace it or not, God gave us His Word, both in the Bible and every human spirit. What we do with those resources is up to us. If you want further explanations on this, i suggest you go back a few pages. I've detailed many of my responses there.

But still, if you were married, and your spouse killed your children and raped them, would you stay with him/her???

 

[Downhere]

But still, if you were married, and your spouse killed your children and raped them, would you stay with him/her???

I would pretty much think that would fall under unfaithfulness.

The definition of unfaithfulness is as followed: "not faithful; false to duty, obligation, or promises; faithless; disloyal."

Considering a person who would do such a thing that would mean they broke their obligation and promise to protect their family.

 

[cookiva]

I would pretty much think that would fall under unfaithfulness.

The definition of unfaithfulness is as followed: "not faithful; false to duty, obligation, or promises; faithless; disloyal."

Considering a person who would do such a thing that would mean they broke their obligation and promise to protect their family.

I agree with that, DH. Its just that the way that MovieFan is talking about divorce, it seems as if he would stay with his spouse in that instance. He said that divorce is a sin, and that he would never get divorced, even if the spouse was unfaithful.

I mean, its that kind of strict following of the bible that is sometimes laughable. I love living in Texas because I get to hear that type of talk, but then cry for the same reason.

 

[Moviefan2k4]

I would pretty much think that would fall under unfaithfulness.

The definition of unfaithfulness is as followed: "not faithful; false to duty, obligation, or promises; faithless; disloyal."

Considering a person who would do such a thing that would mean they broke their obligation and promise to protect their family.

Exactly.

 

[Downhere]

I agree with that, DH. Its just that the way that MovieFan is talking about divorce, it seems as if he would stay with his spouse in that instance. He said that divorce is a sin, and that he would never get divorced, even if the spouse was unfaithful.

I mean, its that kind of strict following of the bible that is sometimes laughable. I love living in Texas because I get to hear that type of talk, but then cry for the same reason.

Well, divorce is never a good thing. The bible clearly states that God hates divorce, but there are certain circumstances that it may be needed. Like the example you gave would be a reason for it as that person who would do such a thing to their family would be unfaithful in God's eyes. Unfaithfulness isn't only related to sexual practices, it can be something that endangers the life of the other person or children.

 

[Arc-Light]

Because whether people choose to embrace it or not, God gave us His Word, both in the Bible and every human spirit. What we do with those resources is up to us. If you want further explanations on this, i suggest you go back a few pages. I've detailed many of my responses there.

Hmm but the Bible was written by men, also if God gave us his/hers/its word why would we need the Bible if its already within us.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

This is insane, I'm gay, and what enrages me most about this is that a couple who cared for kids that needed help is not going to be able to help children that need help anymore, cause they want attend a meeting? :

 

[PemLam]

This is insane, I'm gay, and what enrages me most about this is that a couple who cared for kids that needed help is not going to be able to help children that need help anymore, cause they want attend a meeting? :

Is your anger directed at the system which is forcing the parents to attend a meeting that is against their beliefs, or is it directed to the parents because they won't attend the meeting?

 

[Erzengel]

How could the kid learn he was fabulous?

 

[Docker2.0]

We never get anywhere and always end up back at square one. It's why I don't usually come to the community, alas the night beckons. As Max Schreck would say, I've got bigger fish to fry.

I come to the Community, but I barely post in the threads that have something to do with religion or homosexuals. It never ends well and regardless of what stance you take, people find ANY reason to fly off the handle and force their point of views down your throat, knowing damn well it won't happen.

 

[Mister Sinister]

Being religious doesn't put you above the law.

The government has to step in and say 'homophobia is wrong and we won't condone it', they had to step in a while back when the Church didn't denounce pedophilia as wrong.

 

[lou2099]

So it didn't matter that they were caring loving foster parents, but when they don't want to teach them something that is not usually accepted in society anyway, they lose the kids? That's bogus.

 

[Mr Sparkle]

If the marriage covenant were completely unbreakable, Scripture would never have mentioned the virtues of divorce as an escape from danger or perversity, which it clearly does. As for my views and God's law, I've done my very best to mention each one in the proper context, and with an appropriate Biblical reference. I've answered countless questions from you and others regarding matters of Christianity (most questions more than once), and yet the same scenarios are always brought up, time and time again. If you ever have another question which I have not answered (regardless of whether you're satisfied with my response), I'll be more than happy to make a reply. But until then, I've grown tired of posting the same answers over and over. So, until someone asks a different question than the ones posted repeatedly, I'll remain silent on those subjects.

1.- you haven't provided biblical reference ( that's a lie, don't lie, you hurt jesus)

for instance Malachi 2:16a: “I hate divorce, says the Lord God of Israel.”
that's a reference.
“So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate” (Matthew 19:6)

that's another.

Others claim that abuse (spousal or child) are valid reasons for divorce even though they are not listed as such in the Bible. While this may very well be the case, it is never wise to presume upon the Word of God.

and, what about your "jesus said it was ok" approach?

Many interpreters understand this "exception clause" as referring to "marital unfaithfulness" during the "betrothal" period. In Jewish custom, a man and a woman were considered married even while they were still engaged “betrothed.” Immorality during this "betrothal" period would then be the only valid reason for a divorce

so, even that one is up for debate.
in any case this is another instance of the bible contradicting itself.

2.- you haven't answered, you "think" you answer, but your simplistic method of describing god's love for us again, and again as response to different questions is infantile.

so, in closing.

no.

wrong.

try again.