Fourth Villian is... THE LIZARD?!?!?

[The Shape]

wai i think i found out the 4h villan!!!


carnage?


spiderman defeats venom and hes sent to rykers island prison were he meets cletus kasady, its than were the alien symbiote attaches a pice of itself on kasady, than transforming him into karnage. than the movie ends leaving us in anticipation for spiderman 4

OMGZZZZZno. way.

 

[Immortalfire]

wai i think i found out the 4h villan!!!


carnage?


spiderman defeats venom and hes sent to rykers island prison were he meets cletus kasady, its than were the alien symbiote attaches a pice of itself on kasady, than transforming him into karnage. than the movie ends leaving us in anticipation for spiderman 4

 

[Shoemeister]

I'm all for it really.

 

[RMThompson]

hmm its hard to say if lizard will make it...

i mean how can u fit 4 villans in this movie, we have to see the alien symbiote get into peter parker than see how it gets into brock and how he becomes venom, than we have to see and how baker becomes the sandman after the nucliur explosian working in oscorp (seeing how hes normans osbournes cousin)

we have to see all these events happen and each one will last quite a wile, cuz u cnt just rush it... unless there quick flashbacks?


anyway how will lizard fit into this movie its a long story just on conners part alone, mabe he will be in the 4th one


theres too much going on in the third film, itl take 4-5 hours to get evrything to fit in. but most likly the film will be 2 1/2 tp 3 hours long

I can't answer someone who decides not use random vowels. It's nothing against you personally, I in fact shorten words sometimes as well, but I don't write words like "mabe" and "itl" and "evrythnig" and nice, eloquant phrases like "wil, cuz u cnt just rush it..."

Good luck communicating with the rest of the humans.

 

[paulyfknt90]

haha sorry about that.

im used to aim talk you know. : p


if you cant understand what im writing tell me and i will write it better. i just have all these ideas and specualtions that i just rush into writing and forget to use good grammer.

plus my keyboard sucks sometimes it dosnt input whatever i type in.

 

[jeaf7]

I agree..it has to be the Lizard, all the facts and story plots are there.

 

[GizmoeTheClown]

Personally I was hoping to see the Lizard, Man Wolf, and Kraven the Hunter in the same movie. It would be a simple storyline to develop in some ways as Kraven tries to capture spidey and the other two villians to prove his mightiness. I wouldn't even mind if they tossed in the Black Cat for that little adventure.

I think the Lizard is one of Spidey's best foes of all time...much better than either of the symbiotes.

 

[xwolverine2]

the lizard is a downgrade

 

[TheSlag]

the lizard sucks!..............

Hardly. Classic Villain, powers and alter-ego, and more importantly... CLASSIC STORY.

But that said, too important of a character, and story.. to throw into this hogwash mix of rumored 4 villains.

 

[xwolverine2]

Hardly. Classic Villain, powers and alter-ego, and more importantly... CLASSIC STORY.

But that said, too important of a character, and story.. to throw into this hogwash mix of rumored 4 villains.

meh..... hes a "meh villian".....

the climax of spidey villians is venom and carnage...especially with GG gone

 

[GothamProtector]

How about the Lizard using Sandman to steal funding for him, so Connors could find a cure.

 

[TheSlag]

meh..... hes a "meh villian".....

the climax of spidey villians is venom and carnage...especially with GG gone

God, you sound EXACTLY like Arad and that's not a compliment for those living in the low flying aircraft zones.

 

[Spidey-Sean]

I could see, and enjoy, a kind of subplot with the Lizard where Peter is trying to deal with all of this craziness in his life, and suddenly also has to find a way to save his professor's life from the Lizard he has become as an extra burden too.
Imagine the lizard suddenly appearing at a random point in the movie, with no hint to his arrival, just attacking spider-man or peter! He fends it off only for it to return when the audience least expects it. Of course we would eventually learn that it is Dr. Connors struggling with a strange transformation, but it could add a little extra mystery and excitement to an already (seemingly) exciting movie.

 

[TheSlag]

It ain't gonna be the Lizard. Plain and Simple. Just from a bottom line (not considering the story, character development, Peter and Connors Relationship, etc.) when you consider the $$$$$ investment to bring the CGI Lizard to the big screen...


AIN'T... GONNA... HAPPEN ... in SM3.

 

[NewYorkSpider]

In the cartoon. When the Lizard is tranforming. Eddie Brock snaps pictures of him. This leads to peter trying to get them because it will ruin connors image. peter then helps him turn back. this would work as a possibility.

 

[RMThompson]

It ain't gonna be the Lizard. Plain and Simple. Just from a bottom line (not considering the story, character development, Peter and Connors Relationship, etc.) when you consider the $$$$$ investment to bring the CGI Lizard to the big screen...


AIN'T... GONNA... HAPPEN ... in SM3.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$???

Are you freaking kidding me?

Of any movie in the world, this one is guaranteed to bust 300mil... they'll be fine.

 

[RMThompson]

In the cartoon. When the Lizard is tranforming. Eddie Brock snaps pictures of him. This leads to peter trying to get them because it will ruin connors image. peter then helps him turn back. this would work as a possibility.

Yes it would... and it lends to the entire storyline of Brock.

Have you noticed on the spider man official sony website, the beginning (and a downloadble screensaver) has Spidey in a black costume, and "someone" is taking pictures of him??

hmmmmm I wonder who that is?

 

[TheSlag]

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$???

Are you freaking kidding me?

Of any movie in the world, this one is guaranteed to bust 300mil... they'll be fine.

Bust 300 million on the budget if they try to put the Lizard, and GG2, and Sandy, and Venom in it on the CGI budget alone.

 

[iambilly81]

here is how i see it. first up, the lizard, opening of the movie fight . then it goes into the story of harry going intothe green goblin life style and somehow working with sandman. during that time parker gets the black suit. end of movie, he rejects the suit defeats harry and sandman, venom is formed. small fight at then, make way for the 4th, all venom.

 

[Nebins]

The Lizard was the the first one who came to mind when I heard it was four villians

 

[The Lizard]

As much as I love Lizzy, I really don't see him happening for SM3.

1. Venom is already playing the role of the toothy monster villain, so another one would be redundant for this storyline.

2. In SM2, Otto Octavius was (incorrectly) given a personality and background resembling Curt Connors. This was a mistake, but as a result Curt Connors would now also seem redundant in a similar "sympathetic" villain role.

3. Adding the human drama to Connors' storyline would require too much time, and quite frankly I don't see how all of the present storylines are going to fit comfortably in SM3, much less one more.

HOWEVER: A possible exception to this could be if the Lizard was shown as a quick montage-villain, or a flashback only with no connection to the main storylines. This would be a cheap slap in the face to the Lizard character, but it would honestly be better than trying to shove him into the already-crowded SM3 main plot.

...But I really doubt it will happen at all.

 

[Maurice]

Who the fourth villian is all depends on how much time is spent on Venom.
If he is seen for only one fight, it seems likely that Eddie/Venom is being setup for a possible 4th movie. This is assumming Sony has plans to further this current franchise's continuity. A fourth movie would most likely have to recast some (if not all) of the major characters due to the stars' contracts. SM3 will most likely have to wrap up Harry's/??'s plot line because JF's contract will be finished. Harry apearing after SM3 would be a remote chance. Likewise, TM/Spider-Man and KD/Mary-Jane would have be either resigned or recast. This would suggest Sony would want to roll over a few established characters/villians from the previous three movies. THC/Sandman will only apear in SM3, so he can be ruled out. Likely canidates would be TG/EB/Venom. If Sony is seriously interested in going this route, I think the fourth villian will also apear in the 4th movie.

Now which character have already been introduced in the previous movies and can be developed as a villian. Only one reasonable choice exists by this logic. Curt Connors is the only character who has been seen in the previous movie , yet hasn't turned villian. The Lizard seems to have the best chance (if my assumptions are correct). Plus the Lizard would present enoungh conflict/drama with out diluting Venom the way Carnage would. Thats my guess.

 

[The Caped Knight]

*NOTE I created this seperate thread from the 4 Villians thread to try and discuss ONLY the Lizard, and his possibilies on being the 4th Villian... not any other choices*

I think it might be The Lizard, as he WAS slated to be in the Spider Man video game, and then pulled last minute. Perhaps he was also going to have a cameo in Spider Man 2... and then pulled last minute.

Perhaps it's just a quick 15 minute piece of the Lizard, getting his powers, and then fighting Spider Man...

REMEMBER THIS:

"Dr. Connors made a minor appearance in Activision's 2004 Spider-Man 2 game, but not the Lizard himself. Originally the Lizard was supposed to have been included in this particular video game, and was even prominently featured in some promotional materials before being suddenly removed. At the time there was speculation that the character had been removed from the game because he was being considered for use in the future Spider-Man 3 film, but this has not been proven."

But also, since a lot of people think that VENOM will be more from the Ultimate Spider Man universe...

"In the Ultimate Marvel universe, in addition to becoming the Lizard, Dr. Curt Conners (note different spelling of the last name) created the Ultimate version of the supervillian Carnage using DNA from both himself and Spider-Man."

So Maybe, just MAYBE, Conners is helping with the symbiote formula of Brock and Parkers father, to try and regrow his arm. In doing so, he bonds the formula to himself, and a regenerative Lizard, and becomes the LIZARD, but upon removing the symbiote, it escapes and (in Spider Man 4) becomes CARNAGE !

*cue triumphant music now.

Any other thoughts/ideas on why The Lizard will/will not work!?

As in The novel of Spidey 2, Dr. Conners tries to preform some test with a Lizard . I can't see any other villian other than the Lizard .

 

[Syncos]

I'm really hoping that the movie takes the TAS idea of spidey going to connors to analyze his suit. It hasn't really been actively shown that connors is a scientist at this point, more that he's just a prof. Hopefully they'll get into some scenes of peter working with connors, and maybe do a bit of lizard backstory, without actually bringing the good doc into play as a villian.

 

[neemer5]

I like the idea of the Lizard because he's not that much of a "super" villain. Too many of those in one movie would make it too complex and unbelievable.
I can see a very interesting "tortured soul" arc as well.