chaseter said:
Sorry but no superhero movie makes me cry because the emotional depth is so overwhelming. After I watched X-Men...I didn't go out and immediately start campaigning for gay rights because that is supposedly what those movies mirror. Uncle Ben dying with Peter standing over him and ultimately could have been stopped by Peter is a lot more emotional than anything the X-Men have put out...especially X3. X3's emotion was the funeral scene...and that was pushed out of the story 2 minutes later...Uncle Ben's death still resonates in Peter's life. But Spider-Man aside, the X-Men fight for real world issues in a future parallel of the civil rights movement. Nothing in X3 IMO had any emotional weight to it...the cure was horribly handled and Rogue's emotional weight over the issue was again pushed to the side. It made me laugh so hard how Rogue blew off Storm blabbering her mouth over that issue. Beast should have been handled better with regards to the cure. X3 had too much action and not enough story.
That's your opinion, one you are entitled to, but I do not share.
I never said X-Men makes me cry. Although my mother did cry at the end of
X-Men: The Last Stand when Jean died the first time I showed the movie to her, and she cries everytime Jean dies in
X2.
No, I don't watch X-Men to go cry in a corner, because it's just so emotional. I have movies like
Lord of the Rings,
Titanic, hell, even
Set It Off for that.
Like Spiderman, X-Men is a comic book. It's a bunch of superheroes. I obviously watch it and enjoy it for the fun factor. But for me, what makes it more than just fun is the level of depth and significance it has.
I think an entire group of people being discriminated against, persecuted, and even exterminated, is much deeper than Uncle Ben dying. Uncle Ben died. Wow. So did Bruce Wayne's parents. So did Daredevil's parents. The superhero with the family members killed by criminals concept is nothing new. It's one reason why I consider Spiderman to be much more generic.
Sure, Peter is seeking his own acceptance. But when he dons his Spiderman outfit, he's fighting crime. Bank robbers, car jackers, purse snatchers... and the occassional super villian created through a science project gone bad, who is up to some crazy scheme to either kill Spiderman, take over the city, or the world.
...
Sure, the X-Men have their fare share of non-meangingful crap when they are battling space aliens, or the demented mind that believes in survival of the fittest.... but the foundation of the X-Men is about something with some true meat on it, something that I don't think can be said for Spiderman. Yea, sure, his core has some meat on it. But not nearly on the level of what X-Men is all about.
And while the X-Men movies don't make me cry, I sure
feel the emotion.
Sorry, when Uncle Ben died, I was like "that sucks. He was a nice old man". If Aunt May died, or MJ died, I'd just be like "meh, whatever".
I felt it when Jean died. Both times. I felt it when Xavier died.
Well, Cyclops' death didn't hold the same weight.
I also don't claim that
X-Men: The Last Stand is loaded up with emotion and depth. I think it's much more emotional, and much more powerful than anyone gives credit for. I don't believe it's just a mindless summer popcorn flick. After the final Phoenix sequence, that final ending sequence is just really time for me to recover from what happened. I felt that whole sequence was
VERY powerful. That one sequence alone more powerful than anything in any of the Spiderman movies.
And while I acknowledge the film lacks depth in a major way (bare bones explanations for virtually EVERYTHING), and that's one of my main complaints regarding the film, I do not believe that it lacks an emotional storyline on any level. Even if not handled to it's fullest of potential, the cure concept is much more powerful in it's half-assed execution of
X-Men: The Last Stand than any concept in the Spiderman films.
Spiderman may have it's own depth and emotion, but in my opinion, it is nowhere near anything that X-Men has, even at half assed. Which is why I love
X-Men: The Last Stand so much. Because even as half assed as it was (and yes, despite my love for it, even I find many faults in it), it's still better than anything else that's out comic-book wise. Then you put X-Men at not half assed, the likes of
X-Men and
X2, and Spiderman just has no chance in hell.
But that's nothing against the Spiderman films. I actually find them to be very well crafted and executed films. Despite their lack of depth and emotion, when compared to X-Men, I still find that I do have some attatchment to these characters. Not nearly the attatchment I form with the X-Men, but an attatchment none-the-less. They are very good films. As far as comic book films, they are top of the pack, behind only the X-Men trilogy, and on par with
Blade (not 2 or
Trinity, which were both awful), and
The Punisher.
But I watch these films for something totally different.
Obviously, I don't watch the X-Men for Shakespearian calibur drama. It's a freaking comic book mythology. Despite as epic as that stuff might be, it is
NOT Shakespearian calibur tragedy, epic, emotional. It's just not. And we all need to stop dilluding ourselves that comic books are these high scale works of literature.
That said, X-Men, in comic, and movie form, has some meat on it's bones that I don't see in any other comic mythology. That's why X-Men stands out to me, over just Spiderman, or Batman, or Superman, or anybody else. I watch these movies because I truly can get attatched to these characters, and even if I don't break down crying, I feel it when Jean dies. I feel it when Wolverine makes his sacrifice to save Rogue. I feel it when Xavier and Wolverine fight to bring Jean back from the brink.
I watch Spiderman because it's got nice special effects, and there's cool action. The little bit of meaning behind it gives it a little oomph over a typical
Fantastic 4 or
Daredevil or something. But that little bit of meat is just that, a little bit of meat, and not enough to keep me coming back because I truly care.
I care for the X-Men. I will continue to watch these films, read these comics, and watch the cartoons, for the rest of my life. They are a part of me.
If I never saw Spiderman again, I wouldn't lose a second of sleep.
t: 
that i have some knowldege on Superman ( but i'm not a big fan)and that i had actually high expectations for it.
