Frank Millers Superman?

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  1. BH/HHH

    BH/HHH You Are My World

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    Ok I found this interesting:

    Sorry to bring this up again but I have to admit after re-reading the Dark Knight Returns I'm not as against his portrayal as Superman as I was.

    Anyway the interesting thing I took from it was Miller saying he has a Superman story he'd want to tell someday, I would love for him to do a Superman story and from the comment I don't think it'd be set in the Dark Knight world. Here's hoping he gets to tell his story someday.
     
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    I agree with what Matt Rhodes said in response to that on Comics Cube.

     
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  3. BH/HHH

    BH/HHH You Are My World

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    Yeah I think I'd agree with that, Superman basically saves millions of lives. I'm willing to admit that I think I was wrong n my argument before I think you were right when you basically said the Superman in this is from Batman's POV.

    So do you think there's any chance we might get to see Millers Superman story?
     
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    I was always hesitant to read The Dark Knight Returns because of the so-called portrayal of Superman but when I finally did -- I agreed with Matt Rhodes.

    I found Batman to be very tragic and Superman to be shed in a good light (despite the government stooge angle.)
     
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  5. BH/HHH

    BH/HHH You Are My World

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    I guess I struggled with it originally but re-reading it since I now feel the same way.

    On the subject of Frank Miller's Superman I loved the covers he did for Superman: The Secret Years, better than the actual stories unfortunately:

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    This reminds me of Tim Sale.
     
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  7. BH/HHH

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    Yeah I get what you mean.

    You know I'm re-reading the Dark Knight Strikes Again and is it just me or does this seem more like a Superman story than a Batman one? I don't mean in terms of a typical Superman story but it just seems the focus of the story is mainly on Superman.
     
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    It reminds me more of a justice league story.
     
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  9. BH/HHH

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    Or that I'd agree its more Superman and JL than Batman that's for sure.

    I really can't help wondering what a Frank Miller Superman story would be like as he said it'd be different from his Dark Knight take on Superman.
     
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    Love those covers... I personally never thought (as one SHH thread claims) that Frank Miller hated Superman. To be fair to Frank, he has never really done very much if anything with Superman outside of DKR. There is also his explanation as to why he made Superman a stooge for Reagan which does fit for the DKR story.

    I would be intrigued to see what he could do with Superman.
     
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    I have to admit I would love to see this Superan story he said he'd love to tell however his recent efforts in my opinion have been pretty atrocious All Star, TDKSA and Holy Terror. I would worry I think had he written All Star years ago it would have been different. I just hope he'd do an actual Superman story and not some terribly written f**ked up version. Admittedly though I find Franks horrible stuff strangely interesting kind of lie a freakshow you don't want to look but can't help yourself. All in all though would be very interesting to hear his ideas.

    And yeah the Secret Years covers were better than the content.
     
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  12. Comics N' Toons

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    I agree. Lately, his work, at least in the past five years, has been rather terrible compared to stuff like DKR or Daredevil (though I am one o the few that thought Frank's early Daredevil wasn't that great).

    I think he could write a great Superman book if given the chance!
     
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  13. BH/HHH

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    I've never read his Daredevil would like to mind. Would you say it's overrated then? I didn't like Sin City either.

    I do too, like I said I hope if he does get too he doesnt take it into that place where he took the stories I mentioned.
     
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    Frank's original DD run wasn't as good as everyone says (yes, very overrated) but Born Again and his Man Without Fear stuff that he did with Romita Jr. was excellent. I wasn't crazy about Sin City either.

    As far as a Superman story, he should really have written it in DC's heyday when Superman was still the classic Superman. I believe Frank could write a great Superman tale as a one-shot, but it probably should have been done in the 80's or 90's before all of these mega-events happened such as New 52 and whatnot that change or undermine the original concept of the character so much.
     
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