From what franchise will Marvel TDK born?

[Chris Wallace]

Word.


I know what you mean wallace but as far as MoonKnight that comparison will be there regardless.

I'm not talking about whether there will be comparisons. As tired as I am of people comparing BP to Batman, I know those comparisons will never go away. Hell, there's been numerous people comparing Spider-Man to Batman. I'm saying no deliberate attempt should be made to follow in TDK's footsteps.

 

[marcvader]

What I get from this thread is what hero does Marvel have to make in the scope and epicness, if thats a word, in the way Batman's is perceived. Not necessarily meaning it has to be grounded in realism or have dark themes. Marvel has to blaze its own trail. For me Captain America has the potential of being a film where it's story can be taken seriously and at the same time be a good old fashioned adventure movie ala Raiders of the Lost Ark.

 

[Red Mask]

I hope Captain America does kill some opponents. He is a soldier after all.

 

[Red Mask]

None. I am so tired of threads like this. There will not & should not be a Marvel TDK. Any attempt on Marvel's part to steal The Dark Knight's thunder will be seen as such, & consequently fail.

We Don't Need Another Hero by Tina Turner
Out of the ruins
Out from the wreckage
Can't make the same mistake this time
We are the children
The last generation
We are the ones they left behind
And i wonder when we are ever gonna change
Living under the fear till nothing else remains

We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the thunderdome (Gotham City)

Looking for something (not someone) we can rely on
There's got to be something better out there
Love and compassion, their day is coming
All else are castles built in the air
And i wonder when we are ever gonna change
Living under the fear till nothing else remains
All the children say

We don't need another hero
We don't need to know the way home
All we want is life beyond the thunderdome (Gotham City)


So what do we do with our lives
We leave only a mark
Will our story shine like a life
Or end in the dark (knight)
Give it all or nothing

 

[The Question]

I'm not talking about whether there will be comparisons. As tired as I am of people comparing BP to Batman, I know those comparisons will never go away. Hell, there's been numerous people comparing Spider-Man to Batman. I'm saying no deliberate attempt should be made to follow in TDK's footsteps.

So you think it's a bad idea for Marvel to follow in TDK's footsteps by making a really good movie. Huh.

 

[Chris Wallace]

First of all, to say that Marvel hasn't made any good movies is absurd. I'm saying don't make a copycat Dark Knight movie in hopes of capturing the fans of that movie. Pay attention to what I say & don't put words in my mouth.
More to the point, Batman is Batman & should not be imitated. The Dark Knight was a very tragic film in which nobody got a happy ending. That fits Batman's world, but I don't want to see any other hero go that route.

 

[Red Mask]

More to the point, Batman is Batman & should not be imitated. The Dark Knight was a very tragic film in which nobody got a happy ending. That fits Batman's world, but I don't want to see any other hero go that route.

And yet it spoke to many viewers. Why not? People today don't know where we're headed. We can't agree on what should be done. The future looks bleak.

It reminds me of something Jenny Sparks said in the 2nd volume of Stormwatch. "People don't want a better world, John". Apparently, that's good enough for the audience.

So what do we do with our lives
We leave only a mark
Will our story shine like a life
Or end in the dark (knight)
Give it all or nothing

 

[chiefchirpa]

Again people misunderstood about what I say as a "TDK".

It's not about copying TDK (although in reality Marvel has done many things that are in essence copying DC ideas), but as I said before what is going to be Marvel films that don't feel like a superhero movie. This is what's known as a "TDK" which is a pseudo-superhero film, not a film about a Marvel-own caped crusader.

 

[Triad]

I say the obvious Moon Knight would lend itself to this stye quite nicely and/or maybe a Dr. Strange feature? (With David Fincher for director on MK & Peter Jackson or Guillermo del Toro on DS? I can almost see it now!)

 

[marcvader]

And yet it spoke to many viewers. Why not? People today don't know where we're headed. We can't agree on what should be done. The future looks bleak.

It reminds me of something Jenny Sparks said in the 2nd volume of Stormwatch. "People don't want a better world, John". Apparently, that's good enough for the audience.

So what do we do with our lives
We leave only a mark
Will our story shine like a life
Or end in the dark (knight)
Give it all or nothing

Nah, that movie was well received because it very well done, very well marketed, and had a "must see" amazing performance by the now deceased Ledger. Comic book movies don't all have to be dark and tragic. If the hero lends to it fine. Not everyone goes to the movies to get depressed, real life can be depressing enough.

 

[The Major]

Ledger's death gave TDK a massive push but I just think it would have been a great success if it hadn't occurred.

The buzz about the movie was already incredible before he died plus it had BB which got people excied about the new direction of the franchise.

 

[The Question]

First of all, to say that Marvel hasn't made any good movies is absurd. I'm saying don't make a copycat Dark Knight movie in hopes of capturing the fans of that movie. Pay attention to what I say & don't put words in my mouth.
More to the point, Batman is Batman & should not be imitated. The Dark Knight was a very tragic film in which nobody got a happy ending. That fits Batman's world, but I don't want to see any other hero go that route.

I didn't say they haven't made any good movies. Didn't even imply it.

What I was saying is that most people here aren't asking for them to do a carbon copy of The Dark Knight. What they're asking for, for the most part, when they talk about "Marvel's TDK," is a movie that, like The Dark Knight, strives to be a great film, as opposed to simply striving to be a great comic book adaptation.

As for the tragic, no happy ending angle, I wouldn't be against that if it were for characters like Daredevil or The Punisher, who are known for stories equally as tragic as Batman's.

 

[Red Mask]

Nah, that movie was well received because it very well done, very well marketed, and had a "must see" amazing performance by the now deceased Ledger. Comic book movies don't all have to be dark and tragic. If the hero lends to it fine. Not everyone goes to the movies to get depressed, real life can be depressing enough.

Ledger's death notwithstanding, people didn't go this film expecting the tragedy angle of the story. (However I could already surmise that Rachel was going to buy the farm.) But the complexities mesmerized them and before they knew it, they found a movie that appealed to their inner fears. We certainly didn't get a movie where one man can make a difference. He merely compromised the truth in a vain attempt to do so, which apparently is good enough to today's audience.